Skip to comments.Cops Are Outraged That New York's New Magazine Limit Could Apply to Them
Posted on 01/21/2013 2:56:23 PM PST by neverdem
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What about me? Give the cops revolvers and regular people the glocks.
"The way the current legislation is drafted, it actually handcuffs the law enforcement community from having the necessary ammunition needed to save lives," he said. "We must not allow this to happen."
"After all, we are elite government officials, and our lives are worth four times more than regular citizens, as everybody knows."
(Okay, I made up that last bit. But it's what they mean.)
That's what got this started. In LA there was a bank robbery and three guys were able to hold off the entire LAPD. The cops were hopelessly outgunned with their revolvers against these bank robbers.
They won't be under armed again. But they expect us to be.
And to think that if they *really* passed what they wanted, as a state rep has revealed, of complete confiscation... would be amazing to see the looks on the cops faces as their gov made this “mistake”, and outlawed ALL their firearms.
[... and they’d have to disarm themselves, to boot!]
In a tragi-comic way it’s damned near hillarious. BTW, never let a cop tell you, you are a civilian. They are too.
How many politicians have a wife and more than six kids? Seven round mags are fine.
They are limiting magazines in NYC and the ACLU is silent. Newsweak folded and Time is getting skeered.
In this case, richly-deserved.
while there has been one or two nuts individually start a shootout in a police station, home invasions by one or more bad guys happen much more often.
What possible excuse can there be for exempting RETIRED cops?
Aren’t they just citizens?
Heard some liberal again demand to know why anyone who isn’t a law enforcement officer would ever need hollow point bullets.
No response or defense was given as to why Social Security people would need hundreds of thousands of hollow points under Baraq’s watch.
If I had been there I’d have gladly offed those two bums for the cops with M1A.
.308 in the head ain’t gonna feel good and I would have been ear down the street when I did it.
YOU DON'T NEED TEN BULLETS TO BLOW AWAY A CRIMINAL!!!
I'M SO NEUROTIC!
DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA HOW NEUROTIC I AM!?!
I'M SO NEUROTIC I COULD ONLY BE ELECTED IN NEW YORK
THAT'S HOW NEUROTIC I AM!!!
WOODY ALLEN DOESN'T KNOW WHAT NEUROTIC IS
THAT'S HOW NEUROTIC I AM!
Time to switch to belt fed weapons....
WOW! You've hit on a GREAT point there. The cops don't need more than 7 rounds because the bad guys will no longer have more than 7. That's an excellent point.
Yeah, there was no excuse for that lack of planning. Not a sniper on the force? Would have stopped it in > a minute with head shots. WTF?
I normally support law enforcement and do not suffer from that rabid hate of them so often seen here. When my daughter calls 911, chances are those guys are showing up as fast as they can to help her. Car wreck, stalker, whatever.
But, something todays cops miss is that for most of America’s history the cops have carried much less firepower than the citizenry. This concept that the cops must always be able to carry overwhelming firepower when compared to us is a new thing.
And THAT mentality has changed how they deal with us. Before, they were usually bona fide representatives and protectors of the community. This is why they did not demand an overwhelming firepower, or expect a monopoly of firepower.
The current way of thinking is a subtle way of telling them they are a sort of occupation force, and that they never need to worry about pleasing the community.
So yes, the cops should have to revert to whatever magazines the civilians are forced to use.
Since the NY politicians did not give this “law” very much consideration before passing it, the law probably does not explicitly ban belt-fed weapons. Therefor, they are probably legal. This would be too funny if it were not such an unconstitutional law.
I remember that shootout. The perps had both fully automatic weapons AND body armor, BOTH of which are illegal, but since when has that ever stopped criminals. They finally just ran out of bullets and at least one committed suicide on camera.
No, but maybe their Union who probably supported Obama and Cuomo when the rank and file do the hard work, and their SEIU overlords sell then down the river on so many things they believe in...
Perhaps they need Terry Bowman...
Why do coops “need” more than 7 rounds? We have already heard for Rep Nadler that NO ONE “needs” more 2 or 4 round in self defense.
Well, instead of just dropping snide comments, perhaps you could mount a reasoned defense of why cops should have large magazines to defend against multiple criminal shooters, but civilians should not.
On second thought, I see why you are not bothering to try.
Since when doesn’t “law-abiding retired cops” = “private citizen”?
I don’t recall retired military being given special preferences concerning what they can or can’t carry, yet their oaths remain intact and in effect, too.
Sniper rounds go right through body armor.
Cue the "sad trombone" soundtrack.
There is no requirement to show need to exercise your 2A rights.
Cops can have magazines. They just can’t take them out of the station house and in the station house they have to be kept 50 yards away from any gun it fits in.
Criminals need not take off their shoes now.
In 2009 of a population of approximately 700,000 LEO's in the US there were 38 felonious murders, or 0.0054%. In 2009 with a population of 307,006,550, there were 15,399 murders with a 0.0050% chance of being murdered (when you minus out the LEO numbers). That is a four ten-thousandths of a percent more chance to be murdered than the rest of the citizens in the U.S. When you figure every one of those LEO's were armed, trained and have available backup, the citizens are less protected and even more so now if the gun grabbers get their way.
“Gun reform must prevent criminals and the deranged from getting illegal weaponsnot restrict law-abiding retired cops ...”
What about law abiding citizens? I guess we don’t count. Cops are more likely to be wife beaters, commit suicide, suffer from depression and PTSD than average citizens.
And the fun fact that everyone forgets about that shootout. Despite 650+ rounds fired by the bad guys through dreaded assault rifles, they wounded something like 18, and non of them died.
So much for the most lethal weapon imaginable.
Meanwhile, Senior Airman Andrew P. Brown, age 25, with the 92nd Air Force Security Police Squadron, was patrolling the bases housing areas on a bicycle when he received an emergency call on his two-way radio. He pedaled a quarter-mile to the scene and, while still some 70 yards away, spotted Mellberg shooting at scores of panic-stricken people in the parking lot.
He ditched his bicycle and ordered the gunman to drop his weapon. When Mellberg turned and shot at him, Brown dropped into a combat crouch and returned fire with his 9mm Beretta M9 semiautomatic pistol. He fired four rounds at Mellberg; two missed, one hit him in the shoulder and one struck him between the eyes, instantly ending his homicidal rampage. The drum magazine in Mellbergs MAK-90 still held 19 rounds of ammunition.”
LAPD didn’t have a weapon overmatch problem, they had a settle down and aim at the head problem.
You're no better than anyone else.
In my old days as a tank gunner, I had 63 rounds available for my primary weapon, which was essentially a single-shot semiautomatic. The secondary weapon was the coaxial .30 caliber or 7.62mm machinegun mounted coaxially with the main gun, and known thereby as the co-ax. For which we had 6000 rounds in the turret tray and an extra 4000 rounds in ammo cans for a reload.
Those old habits die hard. And in my case, haven't died out yet.
Another case proving unions are bands of useful idiots. If the ban of anything over 7 shots remains, then it should not have exceptions - it’s either a good idea or a bad one. Period.
4000 rounds - is that five cases?
Maybe cops just need more bullets to fire as they are lousy shots, contrary to popular and ignorant belief that cops are super hero gun slingers.
I always believed the time for reasoned debate and thoughtful consideration was before passing legislation. Unbelievable. What country is this, again?
Yeah, I know, we have to pass it to find out what's in it. This makes me sick.
NY cops used to walk a beat, alone, no radio, no call boxes, post Civil War with only a night stick. Such was the respect they had. Now, a hundred years of political ENFORCEMENT, they need armor and military weapons. From Peace officers to law( really ‘legalism’ ) en-FORCE-ment upon the sheeple. But, hey, you take the king’s coin, you do his bidding.
Spray 'n' Pray.
They had to pass the bill to see what was in it.
Ask Nancy, she’ll tell you all about those types of bills.
I’ll assume you aren’t one of those ‘regular civilians’ addressed in the article.
The cops don’t need them. There is absolutely no reason a cop needs any more armament than the average citizen. None at all.
Exemptions for LE in gun laws are Unconstitutional, immoral, and unjust.
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