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High prices, Obama-noia at Miami gun show
Miami Herald ^ | 20 Jan 2013 | Marc Caputo

Posted on 01/20/2013 10:40:47 PM PST by smokingfrog

The Miami gun-show line stretched 200 people long. Many blamed President Barack Obama.

This is what the president’s gun-control talk has wrought: long waits to get into gun shows, higher firearm and ammunition prices and more paranoia. The word “Obama” was frequently mumbled, muttered, hissed, cursed at Saturday’s Southern Classic Gun and Knife Show. “Obama” was a catch-all word, a gun-rights shibboleth of sorts, a no-longer-shocking swear, a conversation starter.

To Calvin Hudson, a Miami Gardens resident bargain-hunting at the Miami-Dade fairgrounds firearms bazaar, the Obama-blaming was a sign people were being fooled into paying more in a firearms market panic. “The industry is getting people all scared of Obama so they can kill us with some of these prices,” Hudson said. Hudson told a stranger or two next to him not to worry about the president’s gun-control plans, announced in response to last month’s deadly shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary in Connecticut. “Obama’s not taking away guns,” Hudson said to one couple. “He just wants semi-automatic rifles off the street.”

It’s extremely unlikely Congress will go along. Many say gun control hurts law-abiding citizens and does little to stop bad guys. The president might drop his “assault-weapons” proposal if Congress agrees to close the so-called “gun-show loophole,” which can allow people to buy arms without a background check.

(Excerpt) Read more at miamiherald.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: banglist; bho44; bhobanglist; guncontrol; gunshow; miami; secondamendment

1 posted on 01/20/2013 10:41:00 PM PST by smokingfrog
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To: smokingfrog

2 posted on 01/20/2013 10:47:03 PM PST by Dr.Deth
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To: smokingfrog

I wonder what ethnicity “Calvin Hudson” is? Of course “Marc Caputo” makes sure to find the oddball in the bunch


3 posted on 01/20/2013 11:02:30 PM PST by A_Former_Democrat
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To: smokingfrog
Here's what I think of Obama and his high prices!

WARNING: Inappropriate for mixed company.

4 posted on 01/20/2013 11:17:32 PM PST by RPTMS
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To: smokingfrog

Is it paranoia if it’s true? Oh, all he wants is the “semi-automatic weapons off the streets” huh? So we still can buy single shot breechloaders and muskets? Sweet!


5 posted on 01/20/2013 11:22:06 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: smokingfrog

The “Miami Herald”, still serving up pro communist propaganda.

They can’t give that paper away for free,nobody wants it.

They had to sell their headquarters, and before long they will have to stop putting out a print edition.

Stock has dropped 65% over the last 5 years.


6 posted on 01/20/2013 11:35:49 PM PST by Rome2000 (THE WASHINGTONIANS AND UNIVERSAL SUFFRAGE ARE THE ENEMY -ROTATE THE CAPITAL AMONGST THE STATES)
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To: smokingfrog
It’s extremely unlikely Congress will go along.

The 'Rats power is in the cities where their base couldn't care less who legally owns a gun, and for the next coupl'a years run DC. They have a great deal more loyalty to Agenda-21 and UN-based designs to unarm populations so that states (not US states, I mean "the state" as in statism) can reign and individuals do not have property, and don't have much to protect, and are not armed.

7 posted on 01/20/2013 11:56:47 PM PST by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: smokingfrog

Just for fun I posted THIS on the Miami Herald Webpage.

>”Leave it to the Herald to find a like minded Useful Idiot in the crowd.
Obama doesn’t want your guns, he just wants “semi automatic rifles off the street”.
Oh PLEEEEEEASE...
I thought the problem were Assault Rifles. You know, SELECT FIRE Rifles that take a FFL to own along with the ridiculous Licensing Fees. The same guns that are never used in a crime.
Liberals like Obama and his ilk have succeeded in turning a scary looking gun (to some pussified Progressives) into an evil Assault Rifle. Maybe it’s the Pistol Grip that scares them, or is it the folding Stock?
No, it must be the Black color?. Heck you elected a Commie President because he was Black, what’s not to like?
Is it the Semi Automatic function? Do you Libs know what that even means? One pull on the trigger, one Cartridge is fed and fired.
I own both an AR-15 SEMI AUTOMATIC and a Remington 870 Pump Shotgun. I assure all you ignorant Libs that I could inflict much more damage with the Shotgun if I was so inclined. That is why the Shotgun is my primary Home Defense Weapon. Next is the Pistol and then the AR-15, which has the same functionality as the .22 Scoped Rifle I have had since I was eight years old.
Now, I have a question. Which one of you Gun Grabber, Anti Constitution Pilgrims will be volunteering to uphold the ultimate Liberal fantasy of Gun Confiscation? It won’t be like knocking on the door selling Girl Scout Cookies. Will YOU be armed on your Confiscation missions Comrades?
Do you think your Vote has empowered Dear Leader Obama with Dictatorial like powers?
Funny how some Nutcase committing Murder using a Gun means that Law Abiding Citizens should be disarmed, but 64 Million Nutcases Voting for Obama doesn’t mean that they should have their Right to Vote taken away due to gross stupidity.
Flame on Comrades while Lord Obama still allows you to have Free Speech.”<

Too much? LOL


8 posted on 01/21/2013 12:39:34 AM PST by Kickass Conservative (I only Fear a Government that doesn't Fear me.)
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To: smokingfrog
LOL! Gotta love these internet Kung Fu masters who pop up into these comment sections from time to time. This comment is from a guy named Bill Clay (which, I presume, is a pseudonym for Quai Chang Cain).

I don't need a gun to protect myself, but apparently a lot of the Chicken Little commandos in this forum would wet their pants if they didn't have a gun to hide behind.


My response to him was as follows:

Ah, Bill Clay, mixed martial arts master are you? So I suppose you think this woman should've risked being raped and killed and risked the lives of her twin 9-year-olds by challenging this home intruder to a fist fight.

http://www.wsbtv.com/news/news/local/woman-hiding-kids-shoots-intruder/nTm7s/

This 65-year-old woman should've Kung Fu chopped her way through the five armed thugs who walked into her store intent on robbing the place.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2012/08/65-year-old-shoots-at-would-be-jewelry-store-robbers-in-garden-grove.html

This 11-year-old girl should've Judo flipped three home invaders, and again risked being raped and murdered because an internet warrior like you thinks that she's a coward for hiding behind a gun?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tiiQQP4-Ijw

Gotta love idiots like you who subscribe to a Middle School Machismo which has no bearing on reality. Here's something you should try sometime, Bill. Try GROWING UP. If you think you can Jackie Chan your way through six armed robbers then more power to you, but that doesn't mean you have the right to penalize the rest of us for having a brain. If I'm in a life-or-death situation I care about my own survival and those of my friends or family, not some idiotic childish machismo. Not a long while back I had to face just that prospect, and you know what? Going into the situation with that idiotic child mentality which you evince here wouldn't have done me any good, it wouldn't have done my old aunt any good, and it certainly wouldn't have done my little 8-year-old autistic cousin which she was babysitting home alone any good. But hey, who cares about the lives and well being of an old woman and a small autistic girl when INTERNET HONOR is at stake, am I right?

9 posted on 01/21/2013 1:18:29 AM PST by Optimus Prime (Do liberals even qualify as sentient beings?)
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To: smokingfrog

I went to a major gun show yesterday.
It’s a standard show in our area held three times a year and always draws a big crowd.
It was packed yesterday but only a minor line formed to get tickets. It was nowhere near as crowded as 4 years ago when Obama was first (s)elected.

It looked like almost all table spaces were occupied by sellers. There might have been room for another 10-12 tables maximum.

There were many private sellers in the parking lot, at the entrance, etc. - more than usual.

There were plenty of guns of most types for sale but prices on long rifles of all types were through the roof. Some types and models of rifles were nowhere to be found. There were plenty of “scary black assault rifles” at 2, 3, or even 4 times prices of a year or two ago.

I got the feeling many asking prices were set high just to see what people would pay.

Pistol prices seemed to be about the same as last year.

The tables for filling out forms were busy so it looked as if a lot of people were buying.

There are usually several big ammo sellers with pallets of bulk ammo at this show, but yesterday there were none. In fact, there was very little ammo available.

Some of the larger sellers might have had 6 -10 boxes or 1 or 2 spam cans of a certain caliber but there was no one selling bulk ammo in quantity. Even non-military stuff like .38, .357, or 30-30 was in short supply.

All ammo prices were high. Shotgun shells were high and there were no bargains. Rifle and pistol ammo were outrageously high - even the oddball old calibers and cowboy ammo.

Examples: No-name .38 Special ammo was $30 to $50 a box.
Boxes of .22 ammo were priced the same at $30 - $50 per 500 rounds - the same boxes that were around $15 a few months ago.

It was a disappointing show because of the high prices and lack of ammo.


10 posted on 01/21/2013 1:34:36 AM PST by Iron Munro (I Miss America, don't you?)
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To: Optimus Prime
Good reply!

The simple fact is, if you do not own a firearm and know how to shoot, you are prey to any person or group that is stronger than you. Period. Mr Kung Fu Clay may be on top of his game at this moment. Good for him! I suppose he plans to never be injured, outnumbered, or to grow old.

11 posted on 01/21/2013 2:38:34 AM PST by Casie (Chuck Norris 2016)
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To: RPTMS

I love that movie! I use that line all the time (in my head.)


12 posted on 01/21/2013 2:49:16 AM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: smokingfrog

Paranoia is an unfounded or exaggerated distrust of others, sometimes reaching delusional proportions. Paranoid individuals constantly suspect the motives of those around them, and believe that certain individuals, or people in general, are “out to get them.”

Key words here is “unfounded.” He and his minions have already said they are out to get us.


13 posted on 01/21/2013 3:50:25 AM PST by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: smokingfrog

14 posted on 01/21/2013 4:14:28 AM PST by mirkwood
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To: smokingfrog

what is noia?


15 posted on 01/21/2013 4:37:02 AM PST by dalereed
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The libbie writer’s attempt to combine “Obama” with “paranoia”. Thinks he’s so clever.


16 posted on 01/21/2013 4:51:08 AM PST by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam.")
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To: smokingfrog

Paranoia, loathing, and disgust are different emotions.

“Progressive” journalists are easily confused though.


17 posted on 01/21/2013 4:56:50 AM PST by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: Kickass Conservative

>> I assure all you ignorant Libs that I could inflict much more damage with the Shotgun if I was so inclined.

sshhhhhh... ;-)


18 posted on 01/21/2013 5:00:53 AM PST by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: RPTMS

LOL! I don’t care who you are, that’s funny!


19 posted on 01/21/2013 5:16:42 AM PST by carriage_hill (AR-10s/15s are the 21st Century's Muskets. Self-Defense is The First Human Right.)
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To: RPTMS

I cannot remember the name of that film, but I watched it once, long ago.

On topic, I don’t see “panic buying” leading to high prices. I see patriotic Americans flipping the bird right back at the Obamunist. He flips us off daily, this is our way to return the salute.


20 posted on 01/21/2013 5:43:37 AM PST by Big Giant Head
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To: smokingfrog
“He just wants semi-automatic rifles off the street.”

While a lib-in-law was propounding on the need to remove "semi-automatic" rifles from the streets, I politely interrupted and asked "what does 'semi-automatic' mean to you?"

Knowing that he was profoundly ignorant on the topic compared to my own experience with firearms, he didn't even attempt to bluster - "I don't know" he said.

Case closed, eh? He still held the opinion, but understood that he was talking out his nether orifices on the topic.

I did politely explain the functioning of a "semi-automatic" rifle to him and explained that there was hardly a modern rifle in existance that didn't operate that way, and asked him if he really wanted to argue for a total ban on modern rifles, including hunting rifles.
"Of course not"... (losing argument of course)

The left wants people to think that "semi-automatic" means "SELECT FIRE", ie, fully automatic if you select it.

21 posted on 01/21/2013 5:50:16 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: smokingfrog
“Obama’s not taking away guns,” Hudson said to one couple. “He just wants semi-automatic rifles off the street.”

The inherently contradictory nature of that one sentence says it all.

Things like this will, for a brief moment, make me think that firearms licensing and training/test SHOULD be mandatory ... to keep morons like him from every owning a gun.

But only for a brief moment. :-)
22 posted on 01/21/2013 5:57:34 AM PST by tanknetter
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To: dalereed

paranoia / Obama-noia

Those bitter clingers that think Obama will take their guns away.


23 posted on 01/21/2013 8:25:45 AM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: A_Former_Democrat

he must be related to vichey or nevil chamberlin.

there are a few dealers who are stupid enough to think this will be good for their business by abolishing gifts and private sales.


24 posted on 01/21/2013 8:30:21 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Big Giant Head

I think it might be revealing to find out how many libs are buying guns too.


25 posted on 01/21/2013 8:33:31 AM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: tanknetter

The Miami Herald is not beyond making up stories.

Does this person quoted even exist? It seems a very weird comment. It seems ....odd.


26 posted on 01/21/2013 8:48:17 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: longtermmemmory

I think you’re right. This character “Hudson” was created. We know libs are stupid. But could one be so stupid as to go to a gun show, during these times, and make a comment like that? Was he there just for that reason? Doubtful.


27 posted on 01/21/2013 9:14:48 AM PST by Terry Mross
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To: smokingfrog

IMO, that person ‘in line’ was an Obama plant. A mole. Period.


28 posted on 01/21/2013 9:26:06 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: smokingfrog

Connecticut’s abortionist’s knives and vacuums killed 20 more humans than lost their lives at Newtown.

EVERY day, Conn. loses 46 more humans to MOTHERS who are aiding and abeting KILLERS of their offspring.

Where’s the outrage?


29 posted on 01/21/2013 9:55:42 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Big Giant Head

Used Cars.


30 posted on 01/21/2013 11:09:12 AM PST by RPTMS
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