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PolitiFact: Yes, more people murdered with knives, body parts and blunt objects than rifles in 2011
Hotair ^ | 01/20/2013 | Katie Pavlich

Posted on 01/20/2013 5:38:27 AM PST by SeekAndFind

This infographic is floating around Facebook.

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And according to PolitiFact (and the FBI) it’s true.

Our ruling

The post uses data selectively, ignoring the significant role of handguns in gun violence. But the statistics it mentions are solid. FBI data backs up the Facebook post’s claim that in 2011, more people were murdered with knives, “hands or feet” or “clubs and hammers” than with any type of rifle. We rate the statement True.

You can read the whole assessment here.

 


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; guncontrol; killing; murder; secondamendment; violence; weapons; youwillnotdisarmus

1 posted on 01/20/2013 5:38:35 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

It is true. You can open your local paper, and bean-count over an entire month. Violent assault can be accomplished through many avenues. You could die by virtue of your wife and a frying pan, or your neighbor with a canoe paddle. In fact, it might be a higher chance of being killed by a family member over an argument, than some gun nut hyped up on meds.


2 posted on 01/20/2013 5:45:42 AM PST by pepsionice
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To: SeekAndFind


3 posted on 01/20/2013 5:48:20 AM PST by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas exercitus gerit ;-{)
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To: SeekAndFind

They left out handguns. I hate misleading ads of any political persuasion.


4 posted on 01/20/2013 5:50:02 AM PST by plain talk
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To: pepsionice

http://pmnewsnigeria.com/2013/01/18/woman-kills-boyfriend-with-her-boobs/

Woman Kills boyfriend with her boobs

EXCERPT:

Using her large breasts as a lethal weapon, a 51-year old woman strangled her boy friend after an altercation, the Huffington Post has reported.

The killer breasts, police said, belong to Donna Lange, a huge woman from Everett, Washington, United states.

Police said Lange suffocated her boyfriend to death with her breasts in their mobile house at about 12.45 a.m. recently.
According to Seattle’s KIRO 7 Eyewitness News, Lange’s 51-year-old alleged boyfriend was later pronounced dead at Swedish Medical Centre, Washington

KIRO 7 Eyewitness News reported that witnesses claimed they saw Lange throw her boyfriend down in the back of the mobile home. She was later found by witnesses with her chest covering the victim’s face.

Police noted the size difference between Lange and her boyfriend — she was 5-feet, 6-inches and 192 pounds, he was 5-feet, 7-inches and 175 pounds.


5 posted on 01/20/2013 5:58:32 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: plain talk

They left out handguns because the specific issue is so-called assault rifles. Rifles are the issue in this comparison.


6 posted on 01/20/2013 6:02:58 AM PST by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: plain talk; All

“They left out handguns. I hate misleading ads of any political persuasion.”

I do not see it misleading at all. All the focus has been on rifles recently.

If you try to include everything, you end up with more than people can digest.


7 posted on 01/20/2013 6:46:26 AM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain

I rate politifact as left leaning. They had to find something to denigrate the ad with.


8 posted on 01/20/2013 6:50:00 AM PST by marktwain
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To: SeekAndFind

Biden and Obama NEVER talk about ‘Crime Control’ - only gun control.

They’re down with criminals - all the school shooters were democrats or children of democrats. Prison populations are overwhelmingly democrat. Chicago’s Southside gangs are Democrats ...

There’s a reason Biden and Obama don’t care about violent criminals but do care about honest citizens being armed. It’s because the criminals are their friends and backers. Traditional honest citizens aren’t...


9 posted on 01/20/2013 6:50:34 AM PST by GOPJ ( Gang members breaking down YOUR door- daughter and wife screaming for help - Dems took YOUR gun....)
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To: SeekAndFind
The post uses data selectively, ignoring the significant role of handguns in gun violence.

Considering it's intended as a challenge to Obama's call to reinstate the "assault weapons" ban, it ignores nothing that's relevant.
10 posted on 01/20/2013 7:39:07 AM PST by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: marktwain
I rate politifact as left leaning. They had to find something to denigrate the ad with.

You got it.
11 posted on 01/20/2013 7:40:59 AM PST by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: JoeProBono; plain talk

12 posted on 01/20/2013 8:20:23 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: JoeProBono; SeekAndFind





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13 posted on 01/20/2013 9:34:05 AM PST by Lady Jag (If you can't make them see the light, let them feel the heat. - Reagan)
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14 posted on 01/20/2013 9:58:23 AM PST by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas exercitus gerit ;-{)
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To: JoeProBono
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15 posted on 01/20/2013 10:17:43 AM PST by Lady Jag (If you can't make them see the light, let them feel the heat. - Reagan)
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16 posted on 01/20/2013 10:37:21 AM PST by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas exercitus gerit ;-{)
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To: marktwain
I do not see it misleading at all. All the focus has been on rifles recently. If you try to include everything, you end up with more than people can digest

Baloney. They intentionally left out the weapon used for most murders - handguns. If you are going to compare rifles vs knives then you have to include handguns. sorry. We have enough problems as it is fighting the anti-gun agenda without misleading ads that anyone with a lick of sense can see through. ... I also doubt the anti-gun crowd will be satisfied just going after rifles. What they want to is outlaw all guns and disarm us.

17 posted on 01/20/2013 11:25:21 AM PST by plain talk
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To: SeekAndFind

I think when PolitiFact’s “Lie of the Year” turned out to be not a lie, but in fact true, that pretty much destroyed any credibility that outfit may have had.


18 posted on 01/20/2013 11:28:50 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: plain talk
Baloney. If you are going to compare rifles vs knives then you have to include handguns. sorry. We have enough problems as it is fighting the anti-gun agenda without misleading ads that anyone with a lick of sense can see through. ... I also doubt the anti-gun crowd will be satisfied just going after rifles. What they want to is outlaw all guns and disarm us.

Well, what you say is subjectively true but you're complaint of keeping handguns out of the graphic is not in context of the present time.

I'm pretty sure I've heard the terms "assault weapon, assault rifle, & military-style rifles", "clips" & "magazines", 7 bullets & 10 bullets" more times in the past 2 weeks than I've ever heard in my life. When the journalists and politicians are saying "clips" and flashing AR mags and flashing AK's in their state assemblies like they're trophies then there is no reason to not assume they're concentrating on the scary military-style rifles.

I have yet to see a journalist or politician wave around a Glock 22 mag.
19 posted on 01/20/2013 1:06:12 PM PST by brent13a
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You don’t think they will go after semi-automatic handguns? When they ban clips larger than 10 or whatever you think they will exclude handguns? Look at Australia. That is what they want to do here except they have a lot more guns to deal with.


20 posted on 01/20/2013 1:22:09 PM PST by plain talk
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