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Germany's birth rate: Low for so long
The New Age ^ | Jan 3 2013

Posted on 01/19/2013 4:21:03 PM PST by MinorityRepublican

A new study of fertility in Germany shows that the birth rate in the country continues to be low, but not because of the commonly cited reasons of the expense of raising a child or the lack of space in kindergartens.

The number remains sobering: 1.36 are born on average for every German woman. The cliche of a well-educated, but single and childless woman is still a common scenario. The question of why the birth rate in Germany is so low was posed by Federal Institute for Population Research in a new study.

The institute examined the emotional state of Germans as well as data gathered by researching families. What is clear from the results is that not only money and availability of a place in a kindergarten are important factors. The societal climate is also important.

The concept of the good mother, who is there for her children, inhibits women. While some words such as "Fraeulein" are passe, the word "Rabenmutter," meaning bad mother, is still present in the language.

Also striking is the difference between opinions in the states formerly comprising East Germany and those of former West Germany when it comes to mothers who work outside the home, the study showed. In the west, 63% said a little child probably suffers when its mother works, while in the eastern states 36% agreed that was true.

There are historical reasons that explain the difference. Under communism in the German Democratic Republic women in the workforce and children in preschool were part of ordinary life more so than in West Germany.

Many Germans do not consider having a child an enriching experience, the study showed. Not half of the childless women between 18 and 50-years-old thought that having a child within the next three years would improve their lives.

(Excerpt) Read more at thenewage.co.za ...


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1 posted on 01/19/2013 4:21:11 PM PST by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican
There is one segment of the population in Germany that is multiplying like bunnies - Muslims, of course. They will conquer Europe by engulfing it.



Keep Faith with the Fallen of Benghazi! Let the Obama Regime, for once, tell the Truth!

Fiat Justitia, Ruat Coelum!

Genuflectimus non ad principem sed ad Principem Pacis!

Listen, O isles, unto me; and hearken, ye people, from far; The LORD hath called me from the womb; from the bowels of my mother hath he made mention of my name. (Isaiah 49:1 KJV)

2 posted on 01/19/2013 4:31:26 PM PST by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines RVN 1969 - St. Michael the Archangel defend us in Battle!)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Sick culture - wrought by liberals.


3 posted on 01/19/2013 4:31:54 PM PST by vladimir998
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To: MinorityRepublican

Don’t worry, you good Germans who are not having children. The muslim scum you’ve imported primarily from Turkey for the past 40 years is outpopulating you hand over fist, and soon you’ll hear the name mohamed on the lips of all your neighbors, too. So much for socialism and maximum birth control and abortion, the Culture of Death is back in Germany, albeit not as blatant as the National Socialists of 70-80 years ago. IT is reaping what is sown, nothing.


4 posted on 01/19/2013 4:42:28 PM PST by john drake
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To: MinorityRepublican

Choice. It’s all “choice.” I know the fashionable excuse is that taxation makes it “too expensive” to have children, but get real. Ask your grandparents or great-parents about how they supported their families. It involved a lot more work than I put in, and I have everyone’s nightmare, ten children.

You choose to do the work of bearing and rearing the next generation (hint: it’s more fun than you think) or you don’t. If you don’t, someone else will. Europe will not be vacant real estate. The United States has a lot of vacancy now, so who’s to say how demographics will shake out.


5 posted on 01/19/2013 4:44:36 PM PST by Tax-chick (Viva Cristo Rey! Viva la Virgen de Guadalupe!)
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To: MinorityRepublican

The liberals have won, at least in the Western world.


6 posted on 01/19/2013 4:45:00 PM PST by Tea Party Terrorist (Those who work for a living are now outnumbered by those who vote for a living.)
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To: Tax-chick
Tax-chick, I congratulate you on your ten children. The trend in this benighted culture is to have fewer or no children. I am the oldest of eight and my wife is the oldest of nine. I believe that having children is an act of faith. I am father of six - got a late start.



Keep Faith with the Fallen of Benghazi! Let the Obama Regime, for once, tell the Truth!

Fiat Justitia, Ruat Coelum!

Genuflectimus non ad principem sed ad Principem Pacis!

Listen, O isles, unto me; and hearken, ye people, from far; The LORD hath called me from the womb; from the bowels of my mother hath he made mention of my name. (Isaiah 49:1 KJV)

7 posted on 01/19/2013 4:59:27 PM PST by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines RVN 1969 - St. Michael the Archangel defend us in Battle!)
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To: ConorMacNessa

Most German women think the state is a better husband than a man. They put off marriage and have kids before they decide to marry. The kids are let to run wild with lack of discipline..so they are really unpleasant to be around. German society has been turned upside down and ours is next.


8 posted on 01/19/2013 5:07:46 PM PST by Oldexpat
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To: ConorMacNessa

I was 24 when Gunner Anoreth was born - she’ll be 22 this March. I was 45 when Tiny Pink Kathleen was born - she’s 1 today. Anesthesia, antibiotics, and air conditioning! That’s all one needs, plus the long-term warranty on the washer and dryer. And vaccines.

Yeah, life can be hard ... but by my grandparents’ standard? No way. My great-aunt had a DIESEL washing machine, and did wash for money. “I had to get John to come back from the field at lunch time and fix the washer. Then Lee Ballance didn’t pay me.”

I come from small families: Dad was an only child, out in Missouri, and Mom was one of two in Philadelphia. My grandparents came from the big families (5 in Missouri, 11 in Ireland). That was HARD. Now? It’s nothing to have a large family, by historical standards. I have a priest friend in Ethiopia: half his parents children died, and his parents are barely older than I am.


9 posted on 01/19/2013 5:08:34 PM PST by Tax-chick (Viva Cristo Rey! Viva la Virgen de Guadalupe!)
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To: Tax-chick

This is the paragraph that stuck out to me:

“Many Germans do not consider having a child an enriching experience, the study showed. Not even half of the childless women between 18 and 50-years-old thought that having a child within the next three years would improve their lives.”

Alright. My husband and I raised two kids to adulthood. It was expensive. It was incredibly hard work. I homeschooled and my son was chronically ill. I went without sleep for years. We killed ourselves for our kids.

On paper, having children was a horrible decision. It cost us unbelievable amounts of money, postponed our retirement, and killed my health.

But did it ‘improve our lives’?

YES!!

We are both better, stronger happier people for having those kids. The difficulties we encountered with raising them actually made our accomplishment more meaningful. They were worth every penny, every minute, every hour of lost sleep and worry.

And that’s what’s impossible to explain. Yes, it’s going to be hard and expensive, but YOU will have an enriched existence for doing the work. YOU will be a better person. YOU will be more content with your life, less worried about the little things and there is nothing that can rob you of that. There are benefits to going through parenthood that cannot be measured in dollars.

I’m looking forward to grandkids!


10 posted on 01/19/2013 5:09:49 PM PST by Marie ("The last time Democrats gloated this hard after a health care victory, they lost 60 House seats.")
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To: MinorityRepublican

A culture of death has taken over. Since western countries need to keep their economies functioning they must allow immigration and surprise but a lot of immigrants are Muslims who have no intention of assimilating while they are happy to have a higher birth rate. So these host countries, that fought many wars to keep their national identity, are committing slow-motion cultural suicide.

When the indigenous natives wake up to this, they will find that they either must suppress the Muslims or eject them. This cannot end well, or even peacefully.

We can mainly thank liberals who are fixated on multi-culturalism and who also loathe their own cultures for this mess.


11 posted on 01/19/2013 5:16:09 PM PST by theBuckwheat
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To: Tax-chick
I was 32 when my firstborn arrived - 49 when my youngest was born. He's now 17 - time has raced away. I fear life will be much harder for my children than it was for my generation.



Keep Faith with the Fallen of Benghazi! Let the Obama Regime, for once, tell the Truth!

Fiat Justitia, Ruat Coelum!

Genuflectimus non ad principem sed ad Principem Pacis!

Listen, O isles, unto me; and hearken, ye people, from far; The LORD hath called me from the womb; from the bowels of my mother hath he made mention of my name. (Isaiah 49:1 KJV)

12 posted on 01/19/2013 5:18:01 PM PST by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines RVN 1969 - St. Michael the Archangel defend us in Battle!)
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To: john drake

“....the Culture of Death is back in Germany, albeit not as blatant as the National Socialists of 70-80 years ago.”

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Give it time, give it time.

By the way, it won’t be much different here in the US. In fact, we are already ahead of Germany’s process of islamification — we got one on 666 Penn Ave.


13 posted on 01/19/2013 5:25:50 PM PST by 353FMG ( I refuse to specify whether I am serious or sarcastic -- I respect FReepers too much.)
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To: Tea Party Terrorist

Try finding a liberal outside the Western world.

That’s why the non-Western world will survive.


14 posted on 01/19/2013 5:31:01 PM PST by 353FMG ( I refuse to specify whether I am serious or sarcastic -- I respect FReepers too much.)
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To: ConorMacNessa; Marie

Time passes, whatever we do. Do we do something eternally worthwhile with it? If I had nothing to show for my life but Anoreth, I could say, “Look what I accomplished, y’all!” but there are also her nine siblings.

The hard stuff is what matters. It makes us into people who are worth the air we breathe.


15 posted on 01/19/2013 5:48:18 PM PST by Tax-chick (Viva Cristo Rey! Viva la Virgen de Guadalupe!)
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To: Tax-chick
I will soon go to my judgment - a lot of failures in my life, but I think, on balance, that I will stand in parte dextra.



Keep Faith with the Fallen of Benghazi! Let the Obama Regime, for once, tell the Truth!

Fiat Justitia, Ruat Coelum!

Genuflectimus non ad principem sed ad Principem Pacis!

Listen, O isles, unto me; and hearken, ye people, from far; The LORD hath called me from the womb; from the bowels of my mother hath he made mention of my name. (Isaiah 49:1 KJV)

16 posted on 01/19/2013 5:59:16 PM PST by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines RVN 1969 - St. Michael the Archangel defend us in Battle!)
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To: ConorMacNessa

My father was in Vietnam about your times ... 68-69, 72-73. Do you long for justice, do you work for food?

My dad is not a religious man, really, but (before Alheimer’s) he did good for people. Once when he was visiting here, I mentioned a girl in my Girl Scout troop who needed financial aid. “How much for the uniform and handbook?” Dad asked. “About $35.” “Hey, I’ll write a check, save you some paperwork.”

Until his mind went, he always did good things for people, and even now, he still remembers his manners. “Wasn’t that nice of them?” “Can I carry that for you?” I hope I’ll be the same if I lose my faculties, at least remembering to be kind and courteous.


17 posted on 01/19/2013 6:09:01 PM PST by Tax-chick (Viva Cristo Rey! Viva la Virgen de Guadalupe!)
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18 posted on 01/19/2013 7:05:55 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Holy, holy, holy Lord God of hosts. Heaven and earth are full of your glory. Hosanna in the highest.)
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To: MinorityRepublican
Raising a family means a house, transportation, larger food expenses, etc. You can't support a family and support the welfare state. They've chosen to work to pay the state to pay for Muslim babies. And ofcourse continue on with their ever precious urlaub machen.

I feel sorry for the children that are being born.

19 posted on 01/19/2013 7:12:30 PM PST by riri (Plannedopolis-look it up. It's how the elites plan for US to live.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Secularists ridicule pro-life, but their lifestyle precludes even a replacement level birth rate.


20 posted on 01/19/2013 8:19:28 PM PST by tbw2
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To: Marie

You are rich with love. Love is the commodity that life is all about. It isn’t about money, things, or getting our way, it is all about love. The LORD designed us to experience the greatest, most personal and satisfying amounts of love by being members of close and loving families. Love is what makes us rich, and when it is all said and done many of these self centered, childless lives will be vastly more empty than if they had done the sacrifice and had families. Their is absolutely nothing like the awesome wonder of love, and you have it!


21 posted on 01/19/2013 10:07:30 PM PST by Bellflower (The LORD is Holy, separated from all sin, perfect, righteous, high and lifted up.)
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