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House Republicans back off from fiscal clash with Obama
Reuters ^ | 01/18/13 | Kim Dixon, Rachelle Younglai and David Lawder

Posted on 01/18/2013 6:15:59 PM PST by Wisconsinlady

Adam Jentleson, a spokesman for Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, also said the Republican approach was reassuring.

"If the House can pass a clean debt ceiling increase to avoid default and allow the United States to meet its existing obligations, we will be happy to consider it," he said in a statement.

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cave; debtceiling; enablers; reid; republicans; spelunking
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Reid skips off with no budget-again.
1 posted on 01/18/2013 6:16:09 PM PST by Wisconsinlady
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To: Wisconsinlady
I can't believe how stupid the Repubs are. I thought these men and women were well educated. Certainly, most of them have degrees. Some are doctors or lawyers. So why is it that I, who didn't finish college, can figure out that this “proposal” is utterly assinine and they can't?
2 posted on 01/18/2013 6:26:44 PM PST by fatnotlazy
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To: Wisconsinlady

Hey,Harry...”the word is out”,as you’re known to say....I have a friend who says that you’re often seen violating young boys in the Reagan National Airport men’s rooms.Release full details of all your visits to that airport!


3 posted on 01/18/2013 6:28:09 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Red State Secession Is The Only Answer)
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To: fatnotlazy

GOP already lost the debt ceiling fight twice and Obama already won public opinion this time. The GOP has now picked a new place to draw their line in the sand. Now if the gov’t shuts down it will be because the Dems in the Senate didn’t pass a budget. Finally the Pubbies are learning how to use political jujitsu.


4 posted on 01/18/2013 6:35:08 PM PST by csmusaret (I will give Obama credit for one thing- he is living proof that familiarity breeds contempt.)
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To: fatnotlazy

Maybe we were blessed with common sense and “street smarts” and can smell a rat. Obviously, these educated dummies can’t. I could just puke.


5 posted on 01/18/2013 6:41:38 PM PST by Wisconsinlady (The 2nd amendment is NOT about hunting-but protection from a tyrannical govt)
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To: fatnotlazy

>I can’t believe how stupid the Repubs are. I thought these men and women were well educated.<

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It’s not a matter of education with the GOPhers, it’s a matter of lack of spine.


6 posted on 01/18/2013 6:43:47 PM PST by 353FMG ( I refuse to specify whether I am serious or sarcastic -- I respect FReepers too much.)
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To: Wisconsinlady

The debt limit ceiling passed in 1939, should be repealed. There’s no reason for a mature country to fight over whether to pay its bills.

Instead, we should focus on cutting spending and passing responsible budgets that ensure the federal government lives under the same rules average folks have to live under.


7 posted on 01/18/2013 6:49:23 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop

“Instead, we should focus on cutting spending and passing responsible budgets that ensure the federal government lives under the same rules average folks have to live under.

True. But if we could accomplish the above, then there would be no need to set a debt limit. Unfortunately, our govt is full of unscrupulous scoundrels who feel they are above the law and above “We the People”


8 posted on 01/18/2013 6:53:40 PM PST by Wisconsinlady (The 2nd amendment is NOT about hunting-but protection from a tyrannical govt)
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To: Wisconsinlady

The debt limit always gets raised in the end because America cannot default.

We should offer to get rid of it in exchange for real controls on spending.

There’s a place to pick a fight and win it. Not here.


9 posted on 01/18/2013 6:56:57 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop

“There’s a place to pick a fight and win it. Not here.”

If not now, when? The U.S. is eventually going to default on its loans-it is a matter of time. There is never enough money for greedy power-hungry politicians.


10 posted on 01/18/2013 7:02:34 PM PST by Wisconsinlady (The 2nd amendment is NOT about hunting-but protection from a tyrannical govt)
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To: Wisconsinlady

The repubes are beginning to remind me of the “guys” Bath-House meets up with on his trips to Chicago...

Lack of a spine makes certain “acts” easier.


11 posted on 01/18/2013 7:04:12 PM PST by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: Wisconsinlady

that’s something you don’t hear very often....Republicans backing off....from the rats.


12 posted on 01/18/2013 7:05:28 PM PST by Daryl Dixson (Remember Fast and Furious)
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To: goldstategop
The debt limit always gets raised in the end because America cannot default.

Not raising the debt limit does not result in default.

The Treasury still has $240 billion coming in every month --more than enough to fund the debt, support the military and write social security checks. The so-called "non-essential" employees who are told to stay home after every snowfall would probably have to be laid-off and some governmental programs suspended.

But wouldn't that be a good thing...???

14 posted on 01/18/2013 7:29:03 PM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: Wisconsinlady
Maybe we were blessed with common sense and “street smarts” and can smell a rat. Obviously, these educated dummies can’t. I could just puke.

That's exactly what it is. The average working man whether it be a non-union janitor, mechanic or bus driver or even a typical High School or even some Junior High School students could run this country better than the majority of those paid to do so in Washington DC. We'd be much better off. Common sense, that's what is lacking in DC.

15 posted on 01/18/2013 7:32:53 PM PST by tsowellfan (cafenetamerica.com)
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To: ErnBatavia
Orient that recliner properly, and ya won't even have to get up .. fire from a comfortable sitting position !



16 posted on 01/18/2013 7:33:15 PM PST by tomkat ( .. shall NOT be infringed)
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Obama never dreamed of a better offensive line than that brought forward by Boehner.


18 posted on 01/18/2013 7:48:37 PM PST by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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To: okie01
The so-called "non-essential" employees who are told to stay home after every snowfall would probably have to be laid-off and some governmental programs suspended.

It doesn't even take a snowfall anymore. There was a forecast of snow around D.C. yesterday, and employees were allowed to take leave. There was no snow. There was no rain. It was overcast, though. I wore a t-shirt and jeans to the grocery store during the predicted peak of the "storm."

19 posted on 01/18/2013 7:51:23 PM PST by FoxInSocks ("Hope is not a course of action." -- M. O'Neal, USMC)
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To: Wisconsinlady

Crock of crap. If the worthless GOP can do what we sent them to do in 2010 then they either need to quit or I say just give it all to the Dems in 2014.


20 posted on 01/18/2013 7:51:32 PM PST by Fledermaus (The Republic is Dead: Collapse the system. Fire all politicians and impeach the judges.)
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To: goldstategop

Where do we pick a fight? We have refused to do so for two full years now, and still gotten beaten in public opinion. Our crew in DC is an embarrassment.


21 posted on 01/18/2013 7:54:01 PM PST by ilgipper (Obama supporters are comprised of the uninformed & the ill-informed)
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To: Wisconsinlady

The US has the money to pay its debts, its interest payments. What a load of crap! If Republicans cave, just add another nail to their coffin.


22 posted on 01/18/2013 7:58:37 PM PST by Dapper 26
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To: Wisconsinlady

It sounds like the GOOBers are going to take another pass and fight next time. LOL!


23 posted on 01/18/2013 8:05:19 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (HealthCare IS NOT a right. The RIGHT to keep and bear arms is.)
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To: Wisconsinlady

Most of these cowardly Republicans must think that they will be reelected in 2014 just because they are the incumbent. That only applies to Democrats, but Republicans can be easily led astray. It’s all about careerism.


24 posted on 01/18/2013 8:29:31 PM PST by Theodore R. ("Hey, the American people must all be crazy out there!")
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To: Wisconsinlady

This is very simple,

Republicans were going to lose again by getting blamed and so would cave at the end anyway, but it would be much worse later and they would be hated by everyone for it, and gain nothing.

Best to move on now rather than just give libs another Christmas,

Try picking battles they can win for a change.


25 posted on 01/18/2013 8:38:50 PM PST by sickoflibs (Losing to O is NO principle!)
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To: Wisconsinlady

how long, Lord. how long do we have to suffer under these venal, spineless politicians? please guide them, Lord. please remove this cup from us, but Your will be done, nevertheless. Amen.


26 posted on 01/18/2013 8:53:38 PM PST by dadfly
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To: Theodore R.

Incumbents are reelected 90+ % of the time.


27 posted on 01/18/2013 9:54:48 PM PST by wrencher
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To: Wisconsinlady

I don’t want to take Reuters word for it. Remember, the Obama buttlicking media will do yeoman’s work to shill for the Kenyan Assclown.


28 posted on 01/18/2013 9:57:30 PM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: Wisconsinlady

Surprise, surprise!


29 posted on 01/18/2013 10:05:43 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: csmusaret
Now if the gov’t shuts down it will be because the Dems in the Senate didn’t pass a budget.

Seriesly? The truth is what the media says it is. And there is no reason to hope that the Republicans will ever stand up against the Democrats.

30 posted on 01/18/2013 10:08:42 PM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas
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To: Wisconsinlady

Shocker, Republicans cave as usual


31 posted on 01/18/2013 10:22:27 PM PST by Steelers6
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To: Wisconsinlady

But we HAVE to support them!!! Otherwise Reid will skip off with no budget again!!!

Oh wait...

People continuing to empower the GOP get exactly what they deserve. I don’t know how many times the GOP has to rub their noses in it. I guess next time will be different. Perhaps after they give away the 2A they will get tough.


32 posted on 01/18/2013 10:33:38 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: Wisconsinlady
The Republicans new strategy might be incremental caves, little now, little one later, another little cave at the end.
Still a big cave, same results, but done in baby steps.
33 posted on 01/18/2013 10:40:47 PM PST by The Cajun (Sarah Palin, Mark Levin......Nuff said.)
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34 posted on 01/18/2013 11:13:28 PM PST by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: Wisconsinlady
What took them so long?

-PJ

35 posted on 01/18/2013 11:16:22 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: Wisconsinlady

Smart move.

The rats won’t have an opportunity to convince the ignorant chattering class that the Republicans are vindictive sore losers, and the fossilized undertaker Reid will be forced to finally DO something, ie., pass the first budget from the senate in four years. Plus, the African communist will have three months to wonder what the Republicans are up to.

I like this. Finally, a genuine strategy is emerging.


36 posted on 01/18/2013 11:27:12 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Wisconsinlady
"The plan aims to draw the Senate into action to shrink deficits. The Senate has failed to pass a formal budget resolution in nearly four years, and it has taken no action on House-passed Republican budgets.

Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, the Senate's Republican minority leader, said in a statement he welcomed the pressure on his Democratic counterparts who had "prevented this body from performing its most basic of duties: passing a federal budget."

37 posted on 01/19/2013 12:16:56 AM PST by StAnDeliver (Own it.)
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So the key here will be to have Ryan front and center reciting the number of times (and the vote counts as well) that the GOP passed budget bills in the past two years, then recount the corresponding votes in the Senate to defeat those House budget bills.

"Mr. and Mrs. America have a yearly household budget. They have reduced spending to stave off insolvency. Why can't the White House do the same?"

38 posted on 01/19/2013 12:29:05 AM PST by StAnDeliver (Own it.)
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To: fatnotlazy
I thought these men and women were well educated.

There is a HUGE difference in being educated and having "balls."

Most current politicians are members of the METROSEXUAL club.

They check their gonads at the door.

39 posted on 01/19/2013 12:50:03 AM PST by VideoDoctor
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To: Wisconsinlady

The business and money people who fund the GOP candidates, the RNC, the SuperPAC’s etc. want to maintain “stability” and deny reality by forcing the politicians to keep band-aiding the debt train that’s heading for the cliff.

And the GOP-E is going right along by caving on tax increases, now the debt ceiling increase with more caves to come in the future.

Forget the spin, there are no fights in the GOP future other than fake ones generated by GOP-E media (talk show hosts, Fox News, etc.).


40 posted on 01/19/2013 1:18:11 AM PST by Nextrush (PRESIDENT SARAH PALIN IS MY DREAM)
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To: Wisconsinlady

Boehner is powned again.

BUDGET......BUDGET.......BBUDGET.

WTF is wrong with these spineless A$$ hat RINOs?


41 posted on 01/19/2013 2:10:29 AM PST by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: goldstategop
"We should offer to get rid of it in exchange for real controls on spending."

There are no real controls on spending. There is no language that inventive reprobates cannot redefine. Language and lawyers can make up mean down. We have seen spending increases represented as spending cuts. We have seen fanciful projected cuts used to allow current increases., etc. etc. The debt ceiling is a blunt weapon, but that is its advantage, too. It is harder to define it away.

42 posted on 01/19/2013 3:00:22 AM PST by Truth29
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To: Wisconsinlady

Having no actual end to raising the debt ceiling is, just, like having no actual end to the existence of non-conservatives from within the entire GOP! Both of these things need to, actually, end, as soon as possible, if they, ever, do end!


43 posted on 01/19/2013 3:38:28 AM PST by johnthebaptistmoore (The world continues to be stuck in a "all leftist, all of the time" funk. BUNK THE FUNK!)
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To: Wisconsinlady
Now that the real teeth of the expiring debt ceiling will be removed, where is the incentive on Obama and the Democrats to cut the cause of our spending death spiral, Entitlements?

There is none.

- Congress has failed to reign in Entitlements year, after year, after year, after year

- The failed "Super Committee" decided it was not going to reign in Entitlements before it even had it first meeting

- The "Fiscal Cliff" negotiations quickly abandoned all Entitlement reform, and left gutting the military through Sequestration stand with only a few weeks of delay

- The "Debt Ceiling" will be raised, but Sequestration still stands to gut the military and the Republicans now hope that Obama and the Democrats reform Entitlements?

There has been exactly one Federal government institution that has sacrificed the most in terms of blood, sweat, and tears since 9/11.

The US military.

Obama has already cut the military by $450 Billion in real dollars, and Sequestration will be the death knell with $600 Billion on top of those cuts.

Even small changes to Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security that slowed future growth would help solve our debt spiral, but nothing will be done.

Meanwhile, Food Stamps, Unemployment, Temporary Assistance to Needy Families (TANF) which is ca$h welfare, payments to illegals, Section 8 housing.........ALL of that spending increases every second of every day.

What is the motivation for Obama and the Democrats to enact real cuts now? They will simply gut the military, and now be praised for it.

"Sequestration will not happen!" - Barack Obama, final debate with Mitt Romney

Un huh.

Like all the other lies Bath House Barry has told, that one will go unanswered.

Shame on Republicans. Shame on Democrats. Shame on the citizens of this country who now worship "their benefits."

44 posted on 01/19/2013 3:40:51 AM PST by SkyPilot
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To: fatnotlazy
So why is it that I, who didn't finish college, can figure out that this “proposal” is utterly assinine and they can't?

Perhaps it is because the results "they" wish to achieve are not the same results that you and other Conservatives desire. Your question is based on the premise that the GOP seeks what is best for the continuation of this representative democracy.....that may be a false premise.

45 posted on 01/19/2013 4:17:55 AM PST by Roccus (POLITICIAN...............a four letter word spelled with ten letters.)
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To: csmusaret
The GOP has now picked a new place to draw their line in the sand.

Heh...at the rate that the GOP is going, the next place they'll be drawing a line in the sand will be in the middle of the surf.

46 posted on 01/19/2013 5:07:47 AM PST by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Wisconsinlady

So the Republicans will allow Obama to spend like a drunken sailor for three months with the only caveat being Harry Reid’s Senate must perform their legal obligation (that no one has done anything about them NOT doing for over 3 years)? Hoooooohkay.....


47 posted on 01/19/2013 5:15:44 AM PST by liberalh8ter (If Barack has a memory like a steel trap, why can't he remember what the Constitution says?)
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To: goldstategop
There’s a place to pick a fight and win it. Not here.

Hmmmm....that's the exact same thing that party apologists have said over and over again, most notably during the debt ceiling and tax cut extension debacles of 2011.

"We'll fight again another day," they always say, but never do.

48 posted on 01/19/2013 5:16:34 AM PST by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Norm Lenhart
People continuing to empower the GOP get exactly what they deserve.

That is exactly right!!!

49 posted on 01/19/2013 5:19:08 AM PST by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: fatnotlazy
I can't believe how stupid the Repubs are.

This is why conservatives are in trouble! Right now, there are too many freepers, conservatives who are actually holding on to some kind of farcical fantasy conservatives are going to suddenly rise to the top of the "republican" party, gain control and lead us away from this socialist nightmare which is upon us all.

It's a different world today than in the Reagan 80's. The conservative republican party is dead, gone and it ain't coming back!

50 posted on 01/19/2013 5:20:47 AM PST by sirchtruth (Freedom is not free.)
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