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House GOP: We'll Raise Debt Limit for 3 Months if Senate Agrees to Produce a Budget
Weekly Standard ^ | January 18, 2013 | John McCormack

Posted on 01/18/2013 12:22:16 PM PST by Zakeet

House Majority Leader Eric Cantor says in a statement:

Fitch Ratings agency recently said, if the debt limit is raised without substantive deficit reduction, our nation's credit rating could be downgraded. The President's plan to simply borrow more money without any reform in Washington puts us all at risk.

The first step to fixing this problem is to pass a budget that reduces spending. The House has done so, and will again. The Democratic Senate has not passed a budget in almost four years, which is unfair to hardworking taxpayers who expect more from their representatives. That ends this year.

We must pay our bills and responsibly budget for our future. Next week, we will authorize a three month temporary debt limit increase to give the Senate and House time to pass a budget. Furthermore, if the Senate or House fails to pass a budget in that time, Members of Congress will not be paid by the American people for failing to do their job. No budget, no pay.

This is the first step to get on the right track, reduce our deficit and get focused on creating better living conditions for our families and children. It's time to come together and get to work.

Charles Krauthammer endorsed this strategy in his column today:

(Excerpt) Read more at weeklystandard.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: budget; debtlimit; defundagenda; economy; fiscalcliff; illegitimategov; mewars; nwo; oneparty; theatre; treason

Boo Hoo and I are willing to kick the can down the road for another three months if the Rats will do their part by not breaking the law!

1 posted on 01/18/2013 12:22:22 PM PST by Zakeet
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To: Zakeet

2 posted on 01/18/2013 12:25:30 PM PST by JRios1968 (I'm guttery and trashy, with a hint of lemon. - Laz)
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To: Zakeet

I sent my new Representative an email this morning. Three do-or-die issues for me.

1) Amnesty - Hell NO, not even, not ever - no citizenship for criminals

2) Budget - No increase in debt ceiling, no deficit spending. Shut the government the hell down if it comes to it.

3) Guns — NO new laws - no magazine limits, AWBs or universal NICS.

I told him that he doesn’t get re-elected by the media, nor Obama, nor the Democrats. They won’t get him re-elected; I will if he doesn’t violate any of the three items above.


3 posted on 01/18/2013 12:28:32 PM PST by Gaffer
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To: JRios1968

Next up:

—Harry Reid will accuse Republicans of playing politics with the budget.

—The press will issue a new poll showing low confidence in Congress

—Boehner will cave.

I.e, same song and dance.


4 posted on 01/18/2013 12:29:43 PM PST by rightwingcrazy
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To: Zakeet
Krauthammer is right on this one. (Wrong on the NRA add, I might mention.)

GOP is getting its ass kicked while Harry Reid does nothing. This is a great tactic to put the searchlight (no pun intended) on the Democrat Senate's refusal to act on anything.

We can't win with only the House. We can't win by shutting down the government. We can only win by changing public opinion. This is the first step.

5 posted on 01/18/2013 12:33:43 PM PST by dan on the right
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To: Zakeet

Did I really just read this 3 month bargain? Really?

What the he** are they smoking in DC???

I honestly don’t know how anyone can’t see this horrid mess, yes, I still have some around me who believe all is just fine and peachy.


6 posted on 01/18/2013 12:33:46 PM PST by AllAmericanGirl44 (Fluck this adminstration of misfits.)
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To: Zakeet

Krauthammer is right on this one. (Wrong on the NRA ad, I might mention.)

GOP is getting its ass kicked while Harry Reid does nothing. This is a great tactic to put the searchlight (no pun intended) on the Democrat Senate’s refusal to act on anything.

We can’t win with only the House. We can’t win by shutting down the government. We can only win by changing public opinion. This is the first step.


7 posted on 01/18/2013 12:33:51 PM PST by dan on the right
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To: Zakeet

Imbeciles.


8 posted on 01/18/2013 12:34:51 PM PST by fatnotlazy
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To: Zakeet

“Fitch Ratings agency recently said, if the debt limit is raised without substantive deficit reduction, our nation’s credit rating could be downgraded”

For a 2nd time, IINM.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505123_162-57513390/ratings-firm-downgrades-u.s-credit/


9 posted on 01/18/2013 12:35:13 PM PST by carriage_hill (AR-10s/15s are the 21st Century's Muskets. Self-Defense is The First Human Right.)
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To: Zakeet

This is a start. The House HAS passed budgets, not one single one has come through the Senate...most are dead on arrival, according to Reid. And that is criminal dereliction of duty (as if there aren’t enough examples)

And I very much am in favor of no budget no pay. We’ll see.


10 posted on 01/18/2013 12:35:44 PM PST by SueRae (It isn't over. In God We Trust.)
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To: Zakeet

Produce the budget with spending cuts FIRST!


11 posted on 01/18/2013 12:35:59 PM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: Zakeet

Even when the pubbies think they’re playing hardball, they’re still a pack of wussies. Why not issuing a warrant for Harry Reid’s arrest? He runs the senate, senate is required by law to produce a budget. Can these clowns be any more pathetic? No wonder millions stayed home on Election Day.


12 posted on 01/18/2013 12:37:10 PM PST by wny
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To: Zakeet
As long as there is no new budget Federal spending is locked in at the last budget's baseline...meaning 2009 spending PLUS the 800 billion porkulus.
Until a new budget exceeds that level of spending Dingy and Obama will allow no new budget.

Cloward/Piven dontcha know.

13 posted on 01/18/2013 12:38:36 PM PST by Happy Rain ("Banning guns over Adam Lanza would be like banning speech over Bill Maher.")
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To: Zakeet

Every time I hear of one of these “deals” I just laugh.

So pathetic.


14 posted on 01/18/2013 12:39:22 PM PST by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: dan on the right

GOP gets its ass kicked over and over because they continually get down on their hand and knees and shout “ THANK YOU SIR. MAY I HAVE ANOTHER!!”


15 posted on 01/18/2013 12:39:49 PM PST by wny
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To: AllAmericanGirl44
Krauthammer makes a compelling case (to me) for this approach. I'm as sick as all of us with how this is all going - but we can't make things happen with only 1/2 of one leg of gov’t.

We need to make sense, minimize the pain, and win in the mid-terms in 2 years and Presidency in 4 years. We simply can't expect to stop gov’t spending with only the House, a very sympathetic press, greedy public full of takers and a President who only cares about winning the fight (no concern for consequences).

Read the article. Makes sense.

16 posted on 01/18/2013 12:40:21 PM PST by dan on the right
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To: Zakeet
It's time to come together and get to work.

In other words, hand the check book to Oboma. We know how it all ends.

The democrats do the two step (I believe they learned it from Vladimir Lenin). They push their issues as far as they can push (2 steps "forward"), and then demand bipartisanship. The Republicans chat with them for awhile, and the democrats agree to take a step back. The Republicans accept their offer. That still leaves them one incremental step "forward" toward their communist utopia every time!
The stupid party(R) walks away wondering what just happened.
They democrats +1
Republicans -2 (because they let the left set the agenda in the first place. They shouldn't have even agreed to discuss their nonsence!)

17 posted on 01/18/2013 12:45:08 PM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: Zakeet

Not good enough by a long shot!

1) The senate has to produce a budget. Not agree to produce one. They actually have to produce it and pass it before the House moves a single inch.

2) This budget must put in place emergency action to save our currency. This will include an entire overhaul of government spending. Agencies whose sole purpose is bureaucracy such as the GSA must be 100% defunded and decommissioned immediately, while non-essential agencies such as organizations in the Department Of Labor and the EPA must have budget cuts of around 50%. A board must be assigned to investigate spending in the military to avoid situations like buying tanks we don’t need while soldiers are forced to buy their own equipment. All subsidies to ‘research’ however small, must be cut. Planned Parenthood must be defunded. All representatives, senators, the president, his staff, must take pay cuts (well deserved by my judgement)

3) All welfare programs must undergo intense scrutiny with general unemployment benefits receiving cuts along with an overhaul of the food stamp system. Obamacare has to be dismantled due to its astronomical cost alone.

This is just for starters. This is the bare minimum needed to set us on the path to fiscal stability. ‘Seems partisan? ‘Seems like no leftard would ever agree to it? Maybe so, but this is what is needed. If Obama refuses to yield, then we will have a government shutdown. Not a shutdown that lasts a week until Republicans cave because people are unhappy. A shutdown with the ball in the White House’s court. Zero will have only two options. Either agree to the demands, come to the table with the intention of doing the right thing for the country (I won’t hold my breath), or usurp the constitution, strip congress of their rights, and become a dictator.

Are you listening, you spineless dishrags in the house? If there was ever a time to stop this arrogant, narcissistic, commie fraud, now is it.


18 posted on 01/18/2013 12:45:08 PM PST by Viennacon
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To: Gaffer
2) Budget - No increase in debt ceiling, no deficit spending. Shut the government the hell down if it comes to it.

That's just not going to happen. It not only not going to happen, it's silly to think it's even in the realm of possibilities. Even Ron Paul's trillion dollar proposed budget cuts don't balance the budget in one year.

Even if the Tea Party ran the House, they WOULD raise the debt limit and they WOULD deficit spend. If they tried to do what you propose and shut the government down over it, the American people would run them out office and that would be the end of the Tea Party.

The other two things are already bedrock conservative positions which we all agree. No amnesty and no infringement of our 2nd amendment rights.

19 posted on 01/18/2013 12:48:33 PM PST by Longbow1969
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To: Zakeet

This is so stupid. Either they will continue to cave (more likely) or they will fight. If they choose to cave, do it, don’t try to string people along, because we aren’t buying it anymore. If you are going to fight, do it now. Might as well get it going.

Have these idiots ever work in the real world, or is their brained addled by long years in DC?


20 posted on 01/18/2013 12:49:22 PM PST by ABQHispConservative (Only fake Christians vote or are Democrats.)
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To: JRios1968

Better get their budget BEFORE they raise the debt limit, otherwise the Senate will renege.


21 posted on 01/18/2013 12:50:12 PM PST by Little Ray (Waiting for the return of the Gods of the Copybook Headings.)
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To: Zakeet
I cannot believe how big of a suckers these Repubs are. Again and again they are promised cuts will be done or a budget will be made and IT NEVER HAPPENS.

If they want to kick the can then it sould be "We will raise the debt limit for THREE DAYS and if no budget is forthcoming in that time, NO MORE RAISES, EVER!!!"

22 posted on 01/18/2013 12:53:25 PM PST by ProudFossil (" I never did give anyone hell. I just told the truth and they thought it was hell." Harry Truman)
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To: Longbow1969

I can understand your pessimism....I have some of that, too. But I don’t think that it is an unreasonable position to insist on no deficit spending in our yearly budgets, or at least on a short-term plan to balance it. We all have to live with the realization of that in our private affairs - the government should have to do the same.

We have a certified explosion in entitlement spending. It is the primary cause of our ongoing dilemma. Obama raised it $1.2 Trillion in 2012 over dozens of government entitlement programs not connected with Social Security and Medicare, and he wants to increase it even more to keep Democrats in power for 2014.


23 posted on 01/18/2013 12:54:48 PM PST by Gaffer
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To: Little Ray
Better get their budget BEFORE they raise the debt limit, otherwise the Senate will renege.

How can Republicans decide on how much to raise the debt limit if they don't have a budget plan?
Best to wait until the democrats give them something, so they know how much will be needed.

24 posted on 01/18/2013 12:55:10 PM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: Viennacon

They are not even worthy of being called dish rags. It is not so much that they are spineless but that they are actively working against us.


25 posted on 01/18/2013 1:00:06 PM PST by Buddy Sorrell ( John Boehner is our Pierre Laval. We need a Charles DeGaulle.)
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To: Zakeet

Here the Republican bastards go again...going along to get along.

We need to impeach them all and fill the seats with trained dogs or monkeys that will do the will of the people...conservative that is.


26 posted on 01/18/2013 1:03:41 PM PST by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: Zakeet

"We ALWAYS do what we are told ... by the MSM and Democrats.
Isn't that why you voted for us?"

27 posted on 01/18/2013 1:05:16 PM PST by Diogenesis (Vi veri veniversum vivus vici)
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To: Zakeet
Wow! I'm surprised they're only making concessions now, instead of just bending over as I expected. Some leadership from the GOPe.....again. Geez, and to hear it from some here, w/ Mitt at the helm, we'd be GOLDEN by now
28 posted on 01/18/2013 1:16:00 PM PST by i_robot73
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To: Zakeet

Of course, evil harry reid will now produce a “budget”
with lots of pork and spending increases and when the House balks, it will be the same old blame it on the gop line—”we did what they asked and the gop controlled House still won’t pass it”.


29 posted on 01/18/2013 1:27:39 PM PST by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: Zakeet

so the GOPe will give it to them in echange for a hollow promise?


30 posted on 01/18/2013 2:00:07 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: GeronL

” Can Kickers” El Supremo


31 posted on 01/18/2013 2:09:35 PM PST by BooBoo1000 (Some times I wake up grumpy,,, other times I just let her sleep.)
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To: BooBoo1000

Verily!


32 posted on 01/18/2013 2:19:01 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Gaffer
But I don’t think that it is an unreasonable position to insist on no deficit spending in our yearly budgets, or at least on a short-term plan to balance it.

Short term plan to balance the budget, sure. All I am saying is don't email your congresscritters things that aren't in the realm of possibility. They just disregard those communications as unserious. Opposition to amnesty and defense of the 2nd amendment are already baseline conservative positions, so definitely remind you're elected officials you'll hold them accountable on those.

We're drowning in debt, no doubt. But like I said, even Ron Paul's trillion dollar cuts didn't balance the budget in one year. There will have to be a debt ceiling increase, and even under the best scenarios there is going to be a deficit in the near term.

The public is more with Obama on this stuff. I'm sorry, I wish it wasn't so. If the government gets shut down because the Tea Party demands a total balanced budget and no increase of the debt limit, the Tea Party folks would be run out of office (actually they'd cave to public pressure) and cease to be a viable entity. The public is just not there for that right now.

33 posted on 01/18/2013 3:57:16 PM PST by Longbow1969
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To: dan on the right
but we can't make things happen with only 1/2 of one leg of gov’t.

Nope, but they can make things not happen since they control the purse.

34 posted on 01/18/2013 9:42:51 PM PST by itsahoot (MSM and Fox free since Nov 1st. If it doesnÂ’t happen here then it didn't happen.)
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To: Zakeet

Someone please remind me again why we have a Congress?


35 posted on 01/19/2013 3:42:19 AM PST by rusty millet
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