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New York Mayor Warns Of "Waco-Style Standoff" Over Gun Control Laws (King-R)
RCP ^ | 18 JAN 13 | staff

Posted on 01/18/2013 11:31:15 AM PST by DCBryan1

"Most people are law-abiding citizens and may go ahead and sell those or turn those over, but you're going to have a fraction of people that are going to take a stand, and I can just predict a Waco-style standoff in some rural area and it's not going to end well," Gloversville, New York Mayor Dayton King (R) said about New York state's new gun control laws that Gov. Cuomo recently signed into law.

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Mr. King, it won't end up like Waco...the Feds had their "free one" on that fiasco. You should be fearing a thousand "Henry Bowmans" and "Wilson Blairs".....and stay away from Hog farms ;)
1 posted on 01/18/2013 11:31:24 AM PST by DCBryan1
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To: DCBryan1

Let it work its way through the courts. It won’t stand.


2 posted on 01/18/2013 11:33:24 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (TYRANNY: When the people fear the politicians. LIBERTY: When the politicians fear the people.)
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To: DCBryan1
NOTE: Click link and watch 1 minute video...this is not Bloomberg of NYC, NY....

.... but Mayor Dayton King (R) of Gloversville, New York .

3 posted on 01/18/2013 11:33:51 AM PST by DCBryan1 (Look for the UNION label.....then buy something else!)
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To: DCBryan1

What are they going to do drive their tanks up the driveway break the windows in and fill our homes with flamable gas?


4 posted on 01/18/2013 11:36:55 AM PST by wesagain (The God (Elohim) of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is the One True GOD.)
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To: DCBryan1

Mayor King, I say to you: “The British are coming.”
Recall how that turned out.


5 posted on 01/18/2013 11:37:28 AM PST by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free.....)
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To: DCBryan1

A key thing at Waco was after the initial exchange of gunfire, did the Feds fire indiscriminantly from helicopters down onto a large structure known to contain women and kids? It’s important because 4 people died as a result of that gunfire.

The claim of the feds was emphatic; they only shot in cases where it could be clearly seen that there were armed hostile people. But the civilians inside said the fire rained down on them through the roof, and from many sides.

The structure contained those bullet holes —those were evidence.

The burning of the whole structure ensured that this important evidence would not come out.


6 posted on 01/18/2013 11:37:51 AM PST by gaijin
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To: DCBryan1

“it’s not going to end well”

Uh Yeah!!


7 posted on 01/18/2013 11:38:09 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: wesagain

After they shoot the dog.


8 posted on 01/18/2013 11:38:34 AM PST by Gadsden1st
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To: DCBryan1

Respect the constitution and all that ugliness disappears just like that.


9 posted on 01/18/2013 11:41:21 AM PST by RS_Rider (I hate Illinois Nazis)
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To: DCBryan1

“Most people are law-abiding citizens and may go ahead and sell those or turn those over...”

This fool is high. Seriously?


10 posted on 01/18/2013 11:42:05 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: DCBryan1
What's he saying? LOL.
More at 10 or 11:00PM.
He sounds like he's anticipating gun confiscation.
11 posted on 01/18/2013 11:44:18 AM PST by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: DCBryan1

Nanny State bump for later........


12 posted on 01/18/2013 11:46:08 AM PST by indthkr
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To: gaijin

The Feds ALWAYS fight dirty with no consideration given to “collateral damage”. Of course they fired from the helicopters.

If one reviews the history of modern federal sieges they always seem to end in conflagrations.

They had a chopper ready to go to drop flammable liquids on Randy Weaver’s cabin in Idaho to burn up THAT evidence but some of the locals found out and would have been witnesses so they abandoned the idea. The rats can’t stand the daylight.

Remember this when owebama orders HIS feds to get YOUR guns.


13 posted on 01/18/2013 11:47:20 AM PST by 43north (BHO: 50% black, 50% white, 100% RED)
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To: DCBryan1
"......and I can just predict a Waco-style standoff in some rural area and it's not going to end well,"

What Mister King is saying that the government will murder these citizens who are trying to protect their rights, just like they did to the dozens and dozens of men, women and children at Waco.

What Mister King does not realize, his problem [he and his government] is more pervasive this time. It isn't the case of a religious extremist being made to seem dangerous; it's a case of the Democrats, Media and rabid controlling liberals demonizing law-abiding citizens.

14 posted on 01/18/2013 11:48:36 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: DCBryan1

onservatives should think about abandoning liberal cess pits like NY State and move to areas where their productivity, taxes and votes will make a difference.

Its easy to see that eventually the blue states are going to go the way of California.


15 posted on 01/18/2013 11:49:49 AM PST by Iron Munro (I Miss America, don't you?)
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To: DCBryan1

Mayor King didn’t Make any predictions on how it would end.


16 posted on 01/18/2013 11:50:46 AM PST by FreeReign
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To: gaijin

Waco, and the media presentation, and the after-action reports were nothing but murderous lies based primarily in cover up..


17 posted on 01/18/2013 11:50:53 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: DCBryan1

Yeah, if the commies push it THAT far, there won’t be any sitting ducks again. That was ATF’s one shot mass murder deal.


18 posted on 01/18/2013 11:53:22 AM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: DCBryan1
Feds will soon ban water rockets-they can be used against helicopters-

It`s time for the RC Banzai Kamikaze Kiddie Show!

19 posted on 01/18/2013 11:55:39 AM PST by bunkerhill7 ( The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower)
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To: Iron Munro

reverse that.

NYC should be quaranteened and made into a holding area for those who inist on gun free zones.

Keep bloomberg (doomberg) in there with cuomo and his ilk. No soda pop, no red meat, no caffine , no bad food, no cars. Just a left wing paradise.


20 posted on 01/18/2013 12:00:08 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: DCBryan1

I got only 2 things to say:
1. Molotov
2. Cocktail


21 posted on 01/18/2013 12:02:14 PM PST by bunkerhill7 ( The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower)
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To: DCBryan1
"New York state's new gun control laws"

Even after all the NY State Waco events have come to pass, there will still be criminals and lunatics in the State of NY with "illegal" weapons.
22 posted on 01/18/2013 12:06:57 PM PST by indthkr
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To: DCBryan1
Why do the New York PD need to be outfitted like they are in Afghanistan?

23 posted on 01/18/2013 12:11:56 PM PST by TSgt (Infringe upon my 2nd Amendment rights and learn how to speed read at 3000 feet per second...)
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To: DCBryan1

and you in government desire it to occur, through your assinine and unconstitutional infringement actions.


24 posted on 01/18/2013 12:27:08 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: 43north

no, these asshats want the damage to occur. because that’s their excuse to justify themselves then. see, they were nuts, they wouldn’t turn them over.

good is evil, evil is good. they make the unconstitutional lawful, and the lawful, into criminals by their unconstitutional laws.


25 posted on 01/18/2013 12:29:38 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: DCBryan1

That is their objective. A couple of those and their hope is that Americans will bow and kiss their boots.


26 posted on 01/18/2013 12:34:26 PM PST by CSM (Keeper of the Dave Ramsey Ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: TSgt
Why do the New York PD need to be outfitted like they are in Afghanistan?

Because NYC is a fashion capitol and the NYPD like to dress the part they are given.

27 posted on 01/18/2013 12:35:44 PM PST by Robert357 (D.Rather "Hoist with his own petard!" www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1223916/posts)
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To: DCBryan1

Um this time city hall will be the branch dividian compound jackoffs.


28 posted on 01/18/2013 12:51:12 PM PST by longfellow (Bill Maher, the 21st hijacker.)
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To: DCBryan1

A question out of curiousity: If one is a NY citizen owning banned guns and moves them to a state where a second home or relative is located, is he still in violation? Seems to me this might be an encroachment on neighboring state laws as well.


29 posted on 01/18/2013 1:00:53 PM PST by Boomer One
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To: TSgt
Why do the New York PD need to be outfitted like they are in Afghanistan?

History repeats.

Our revolutionary era commissioners in Europe, among them John Adams, Thomas Jefferson, John Jay, were astounded at the grinding poverty of the masses and the wealth of the nobles. That the princes feared the peasants was evident by their heavily armed security entourages. Government buildings were also stoutly defended by muskets with bayonets fixed.

They were relieved that in our fledgling republics, where the people were sovereign, and government was servant and not master, the specter of standing armies to protect the government was an irrelevant impossibility.

In the 1970s I saw much the same in various Navy liberty ports in Europe; soldiers always posted at various points throughout the cities. I thanked God that would never happen in America.

Now, in my tiny county in north Florida, (population 15,000) I must go through a metal detector manned by an armed deputy to enter the courthouse. To enter the county commissioners meeting room within the courthouse, I must do the same; empty pockets and submit to a search.

I refuse to fly on an airline for the same reason I will not again enter my county courthouse; I am not a criminal, I am not dangerous and refuse to conduct myself as if I were.

I don't think the ruling class understands they are fast losing all legitimacy. When that happens, order can only be maintained by pure force, and not reason.

They will never take my guns.

30 posted on 01/18/2013 1:07:33 PM PST by Jacquerie ("How few were left who had seen the republic!" - Tacitus, The Annals)
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To: DCBryan1

Dayton King does not sound like a Republican.

But then again, what does a (R) sound like these days?


31 posted on 01/18/2013 1:14:17 PM PST by 353FMG ( I refuse to specify whether I am serious or sarcastic -- I respect FReepers too much.)
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To: wesagain

exactly.

In order to “save the children” — Reno sent in the tanks and burned them alive.

four times more the carnage than Sandy Hook


32 posted on 01/18/2013 1:21:18 PM PST by Scotswife
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To: Jacquerie

Ah, but you don’t understand — all those security measures are for YOUR protection because of the many terrorists around.

You do remember 9/11/2001, don’t you with all them airplanes colliding with all them buildings?

Now do you remember what “religion” all of the terrorists practiced — every one of them? Don’t tell me, let me guess.

Since then we have imported millions of these religionists and more are coming in every day and your life is now in much more danger than what it was 30 years ago.

Do you now understand why there are so many people running around in body armor carrying assault rifles? It is all for your own good. But why continue importing these religionists, you’ll ask.

That’s the Catch 22.


33 posted on 01/18/2013 1:45:02 PM PST by 353FMG ( I refuse to specify whether I am serious or sarcastic -- I respect FReepers too much.)
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To: longtermmemmory

And no pork products.


34 posted on 01/18/2013 1:52:33 PM PST by 353FMG ( I refuse to specify whether I am serious or sarcastic -- I respect FReepers too much.)
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To: Jacquerie

I don’t think the ruling class understands they are fast losing all legitimacy. When that happens, order can only be maintained by pure force, and not reason.


The ruling class also forgets we know where they live or can be found.

If I remember my history, subject population when deprived of the same sort of weapons that the ruling class and their “men-at-arms” used came up with ingenious alternatives.

China and Japan, Korea and many of the other Asiatic nations developed unarmed combat regimens. Some even learned how to adapt common farming implements into amazing weapons.

My point here is that once they set foot on the road to tyranny and set themselves above the people they were elected to serve then all bets are off. They obviously have thought about this for some time now and now they intend to act.

How the people reacts should be totally unconventional and asymmetric in turn. Another Freeper has talked of a Militia of one. It’s a good idea to me. One can keep a secret, two have a difficult time doing so.


35 posted on 01/18/2013 2:00:45 PM PST by The Working Man
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To: DCBryan1

Apparently Mayor King thinks the U.S. is a long way down the road to open totalitarianism. We should heed his warning and prepare appropriately.


36 posted on 01/18/2013 2:21:02 PM PST by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: DCBryan1
The victims of Waco were law abiding citizens in that
they were not convicted of any crime.
37 posted on 01/18/2013 2:24:35 PM PST by upcountryhorseman (An old fashioned conservative)
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To: Iron Munro
Conservatives should think about abandoning liberal cess pits like NY State and move to areas where their productivity, taxes and votes will make a difference.

Oh, they'll think about it all right. But for 99.5%, actually moving would be quixotic, hugely inconvenient, and might have unpleasant financial ramifications.

38 posted on 01/18/2013 4:04:23 PM PST by HomeAtLast ( You're either with the Tea Party, or you're with the EBT Party.)
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To: TSgt

“...Why do the New York PD need to be outfitted like they are in Afghanistan?...”

In case us peons get “uppity”...

A long, long time ago, I remember other uniforms and helmets that looked eerily similar... and a little guy with a funny mustache and greasy hair was telling them to take the peoples’ guns then, too...

Funny how that works, ain’t it?

We all know how THAT turned out. Lessons for people in power to remember...


39 posted on 01/18/2013 4:36:44 PM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: NFHale
Lessons for people in power to remember...

They better. They are on notice.

40 posted on 01/18/2013 5:57:56 PM PST by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: DCBryan1

We already know what happens in a “Waco-style standoff.”


41 posted on 01/18/2013 6:12:48 PM PST by Little Ray (Waiting for the return of the Gods of the Copybook Headings.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Indeed, just like with Ben Gahzi, they are trying to blame our free speech or guns for terrorist activities or their own this time.

We are in a state of war against a terror aparatus as the emotions of lunatic liberals and their vote seduction politicians are turning more knee jerk by the minute.

Interestingly the so called moderate in this country are also grabbing at some extremism straws of blame in order to justify the normalcy of relations they have with these obvious virtual pedophiles doing Barney songs against gun clingers in the White house, so to speak.

It’s all about kiddie seduction, folkes, and Obambie is good at it, trained since youth.


42 posted on 01/18/2013 6:15:50 PM PST by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: 43north
"Now if the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms comes to disarm you and they are bearing arms, resist them with arms. Go for a head shot; they're going to be wearing bulletproof vests. … They've got a big target on there, ATF. Don't shoot at that, because they've got a vest on underneath that. Head shots, head shots.... Kill the sons of bitches."
- G. Gordon Liddy, 26 Aug 94
43 posted on 01/18/2013 6:19:42 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: wesagain
"What are they going to do drive their tanks up the driveway break the windows in and fill our homes with flamable gas?"

On a VERY windy day..

44 posted on 01/18/2013 6:26:14 PM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (IMPEACH OBAMA)
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To: DCBryan1
I could see something like this happening, and it would have to be the Feds ordered in, because I know for a fact in the city my husband works in as a FF, not one police officer or firefighter supports this law and the only talk is how to get around it. We're in upstate NY. I only mention my husband is a firefighter because while the Police will not have restrictions put on them, FF’s (obviously not the Police) work in the same complex as the PD and even though the FF’s are just “average citizens” when it comes to the idiotic NY law, all of the PD and FF’s are all in agreement. They will not take part in confiscation of their neighbors weapons, I don't believe.

I have another relative, ex marine, collector and gun enthusiast all his life. Teaches gun safety. I really fear what will happen if the Feds or state attempted to confiscate. He has no children, and would take a stand. I also know state troopers that will not enforce confiscation if ordered.

45 posted on 01/18/2013 6:49:29 PM PST by MacMattico
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To: gaijin
The black hooded boy’z with their lil toy’z ended up murdering woman and children.

They had plenty of opportunities to capture David K. in town and didn't.

Every indication to me is that Kouresh was a looney toon, but no how, no way should this had ended with so many innocents dead.

Gubbamint was WAY outta line.

46 posted on 01/18/2013 7:03:22 PM PST by servantboy777
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To: Responsibility2nd

>>Most people are law-abiding citizens and may go ahead and sell those or turn those over...”

This fool is high. Seriously?<<

Yea, right? I also thought this was one dumb @$$ comment.


47 posted on 01/18/2013 7:06:28 PM PST by servantboy777
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To: servantboy777
Every indication to me is that Kouresh was a looney toon, but no how, no way should this had ended with so many innocents dead.

Yet, somehow, there was never a government investigation to determine exactly how it came to be.

With a Democrat president, a Democrat Senate and a Democrat House, nobody seemed to want to know how the biggest domestic slaughter since Wounded Knee had transpired.

48 posted on 01/18/2013 7:12:15 PM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: Boomer One

>>moves them to a state where a second home or relative is located, is he still in violation?<<

Just make it to Texas brother, we have what’s called the “castle doctrine”.

In other words, you may transport a loaded weapon in your vehicle and it’s as if the auto is your home.

Texas’ answer to carjackings.

God Bless the Republic of Texas.


49 posted on 01/18/2013 7:17:12 PM PST by servantboy777
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To: okie01
I think a very scary thing is that the current AG Eric Holder, was deputy AG under Janet “crispy fry” Reno.

Remember Elian Gonzales? Lil Cuban boy, on American soil, was ripped from his uncles home by black hooded jack boots and sent back to a communist country. Very disturbing.

I'll never forget the look on little Elian’s face when the paramilitary dressed in black seized this little boy with assault weapons drawn.

Uncle Sugah’s out of control.

50 posted on 01/18/2013 7:33:02 PM PST by servantboy777
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