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1 posted on 01/18/2013 8:42:06 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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Mr. Rubio said that any broad immigration legislation should create a nationwide exit system to check foreigners out of the country, to confirm that they left before their visas expired. He noted that at least 40 percent of an estimated 11 million illegal immigrants in the country came on legal visas but then overstayed.

First time I've heard a politician mention this aspect of the problem. This needs to be fixed asap.

2 posted on 01/18/2013 8:44:24 AM PST by al_c (http://www.blowoutcongress.com)
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Watch an interview with Rubio and his plan is excellent. This is the first comprehensive plan on the table and is the best answer to the problem.

The crazy idea to round all the illegals up and send them back is the most childish immature bunch of silliness I ever heard so spare some of us with this crap.

3 posted on 01/18/2013 8:48:21 AM PST by Logical me
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...immigration legislation should create a nationwide exit system to check foreigners out of the country...

This should be the 1st step before anything else happens.

4 posted on 01/18/2013 8:49:48 AM PST by VRW Conspirator (Sometimes it takes calamity to lead to serenity - FReeper RacerX1128)
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Ryan can push this tripe at CPAC. Stick a fork in him, he’s done.


5 posted on 01/18/2013 8:50:09 AM PST by TheLawyerFormerlyKnownAsAl
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"He noted that at least 40 percent of an estimated 11 million illegal immigrants in the country came on legal visas but then overstayed."

Sounds like a good enough reason to seriously curtail legal visas. That program needs to be rolled back to a level that can be adequately administered. But that's not what he's proposing.

"His plan would give a temporary “nonimmigrant visa” to illegal immigrants, which would allow them to remain and work in the United States. They would have to wait a “significant but reasonable” period of time before they could apply to become legal permanent residents, going to the back of the line in the existing system. Once they became residents, they could go on like other legal immigrants to naturalize as citizens."

Can someone please tell me how his plan differs significantly from McCain/Kennedy?
7 posted on 01/18/2013 9:00:36 AM PST by CowboyJay (Lowest Common Denominator 2012 - because liberty and prosperity were overrated)
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As Biden said about gun laws — there are too many to enforce, the same can be said about immigration laws.

Rubio is just updating the same stuff McCain and Co have been spouting for years.

New? Not really.

And as with previous laws, what makes the ‘new’ ones any more enforceable? If the previous laws WERE enforced, we wouldn't have the current problem.

11 posted on 01/18/2013 9:09:25 AM PST by TomGuy
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RE :”His plan would give a temporary “nonimmigrant visa” to illegal immigrants, which would allow them to remain and work in the United States. They would have to wait a “significant but reasonable” period of time before they could apply to become legal permanent residents, going to the back of the line in the existing system. Once they became residents, they could go on like other legal immigrants to naturalize as citizens.
“There are millions of people who have applied to enter this country legally,” Mr. Rubio said. “Our message to them cannot be: you should have come illegally because it’s faster and cheaper.”

The citizenship part is a disaster, create more lib/Dem voters?

13 posted on 01/18/2013 9:16:57 AM PST by sickoflibs (Losing to O is NO principle!)
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Amnesty will happen. Enforcement and border protection never will all because establishment Dems want new voters and Repubs want cheap labor.

I am in favor of legal immigration and would welcome those who do it properly. I have no patience for law-breakers who make the millions of past immigrants who have done it properly feel stupid for following the rules.

Those in this and previous administrations who don’t enforce existing laws have no right asking for new laws.
Selective enforcement of the law leads to corruption and loss of confidence in all authority and eventually a breakdown of civilization.

These politicians are doing irreparable damage to our republic just to gain some short term advantages.


17 posted on 01/18/2013 9:34:38 AM PST by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters of Freedom, Committee of Correspondence)
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If we can’t rely on the government to enforce the law now, we can’t rely on them to enforce a new set of more complicated rules later.


18 posted on 01/18/2013 9:36:02 AM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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Employers are required to screen applicants & NOT hire a person who isn’t allowed to work in the USA.

Starting with the I-9, there are many pieces of ID required. Then an employer can use electronic methods to verify with the Soc Sec Administration.

I will post here the EXACT information I have from the SPRING 2010 copy of a quarterly ‘newsletter’ called The Rposrter, which is put out by the SSA & the IRS. It comes with the quarterly forms used to make payroll reporting, the 941 form.

I Quote:
Title: Social Security Offers Consent-Based Social Security Number Verification Service

Social Security welcomes new customers to enroll in it Consent-Based Social Security Number Verification service (CBSV). CBSV went live in 2008 and more than 100 companies have enrolled to use this service.

CBSV permits private businesses, government agencies or tax preparers to verify whether a name and Social Security number (SSN) combination match the data in its Master File of SSNs. It provides instant, automated SSN verification and it easily handles large volume requests.

Using CBSV, participating companies can verify the SSNs of their customers and clients. Companies using CBSV include firms providing background and pre-employment checks, tax preparation and financial services. Users have a choice of three possible modes of access to CBSV: web service, internet online or batch.

CBSV requires participating companies to pay a fee and obtain the written consent of the SSN holder. This consent authorizes Social Security to disclose the SSN verification to the requesting party. CBSV results may only be used for the reason the number holder specifies on the consent form. An Employer Identification Number (EIN) is required to enroll and become a CBSV user.

How to Enroll:

To use CBSV, a company must sign an agreement with Socisl Security, pay a non-refundable enrollment fee of $5,000 and then pay a transaction fee per SSN verification request. The transaction fee is presently $.56 and must be paid in advance. Periodically, Social Security will recalculate the costs it incurs in providing the CBSV service and, as needed, will adjust the transaction fee it charges. Subscribers will be notified in writing of any change in the transaction fee. Social Security may close enrollment to CBSV at its discretion.

Is is important to note that CBSV is different from Social Security’s other SSN verification service service, Social Security Number Verification Service (SSNVS). SSNVS is solely for employers verifying the information of their employees or former employees before preparing and submitting forms W-2 and it cannot be nsed as part of a pre-hiring process. Since SSNVS supports Social Security’s program administration, there are no fees for using SSNVS and the signed consent of the number holder is not needed.

CBSV, of the other hand, is available to any interested party with an EIN. Is is important to note that CBSV is available to tax preparers and also may be used for pre-employment checks. CBSV will verify a name and SSN combination as matching or not matching SSA records for any party registered to use the service, but fees are charged and the number’s written consent is required.

End

Soooo—A legal employer in the USA must pay a NON-REFUNDABLE FEE of $5000 to get the correct information from the SS admin.

What about E-Verify?

Who acministers that? What is the cost to employers???

No wonder so many illegals are working in the USA.

As a life-long bookkeeper, I would NEVER advise any client of mine to pay a non-refundable Fee of $5000 to the government to comply with their demands.

They can KMA.


26 posted on 01/18/2013 10:15:50 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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tighter enforcement at the borders and in workplaces [...]
legal status to millions of illegal immigrants. [...]
a nationwide exit system to check foreigners out of the country, to confirm that they left before their visas expired. [...]
a nationwide program for employers to verify the legal authorization of new workers

I'll take all but the second one.

'[A] poll of Hispanic, Asian-American, and African-American likely voters finds some support for legalization. But overall each of these groups prefers enforcement and for illegal immigrants to return home. Moreover, significant majorities of all three groups think that the current level of immigration is too high.' - more details at http://www.cis.org/Minority-Views-Immigration

31 posted on 01/18/2013 10:44:13 AM PST by JustSayNoToNannies ("The Lord has removed His judgments against you" - Zep. 3:15)
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Exit stage left, Rubio.


39 posted on 01/18/2013 12:41:28 PM PST by OldNewYork (Biden '13. Impeach now.)
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He noted that at least 40 percent of an estimated 11 million illegal immigrants in the country came on legal visas but then overstayed.

I've known a large number of people who worked illegally in the US but still followed the schedule terms of their tourist/laser visas and went home to visit every 6 months or what ever the term was.

They didn't 'overstay' but were either working illegally with no tax reporting or they used fake identities.

I hope they aren't getting amnesty either.
41 posted on 01/18/2013 2:06:34 PM PST by posterchild
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