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How big a Gun does Anyone Need?
American Thinker ^ | January 17, 2013 | Gary Henderson

Posted on 01/17/2013 8:29:38 PM PST by neverdem

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To: mylife

Not if you have the SE sport suspension. But I didn’t tempt fate. I did it once on the straight and empty stretch of Ocean Pkwy between Jones Beach and Captree in the early morn in the dead of winter. Kept it there for five or six seconds then let up. Car was rock steady.no shake at all. Then we parked and hiked a mile to the Fire Island litehouse, climbed it and took some great pix. Boring story but I felt like typing. G’nite.


51 posted on 01/17/2013 10:04:43 PM PST by xkaydet65
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To: neverdem
Our government should, at the very least, afford American Citizens the same gun ownership policy as it did Mexican drug cartels under Fast and Furious. No limit on the number or type, no limit on rounds, no background checks, not even a name or address. I think Holder even let them have grenades.
52 posted on 01/17/2013 10:07:24 PM PST by Razz Barry (Round'em up, send'em home.)
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To: yadent

At the very minimum, whatever law enforcement possesses..

At the bare minimum whatever the fed govt possesses, since they are buying with my tax dollars. I have the right to be equally armed.


53 posted on 01/17/2013 10:10:57 PM PST by Nailbiter
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To: xkaydet65
Sounds like the Sonata is on hella deal. ☺
54 posted on 01/17/2013 10:13:11 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Paladin2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mevxenJ6Mtc


55 posted on 01/17/2013 10:13:27 PM PST by Fledermaus (The Republic is Dead: Collapse the system. Fire all politicians and impeach the judges.)
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To: varmintman

Actually at this time in history- I have less to fear from AQ, than I do from the manchild in the big hut.

Therefore whatever his govt minions possess I should be able to acquire to be on even footing.


56 posted on 01/17/2013 10:17:12 PM PST by Nailbiter
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To: cripplecreek

Here you go; a Czech M59 Praga anti-aircraft vehicle, complete with twin 30mm auto-cannon (demiled unfortunately).

57 posted on 01/17/2013 10:34:10 PM PST by Stonewall Jackson (Molon Labe!)
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To: neverdem

i really don’t care what other people think i should have. and i also don’t care what kind or how big their guns are, if they own any. it’s nobody else’s business.


58 posted on 01/17/2013 10:42:19 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: neverdem

As big as you can handle!


59 posted on 01/17/2013 10:55:31 PM PST by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I sign up for the American Revolution 2013 and the Crusades 2013?)
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To: neverdem

If your gun has wheels to move it, it just might be too big.
Antique rollers excepted.


60 posted on 01/17/2013 11:14:19 PM PST by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough)
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To: neverdem

As soon as you respond to the troll “Why do you need...” you’ve lost right there. No different than the old “When did you stop abusing your wife?”

My response is: “Why the hell are you to define what I need and don’t need? Let’s go over to your house and *I’ll* decide what *you* don’t need and take it off your hands. How does that sound?”


61 posted on 01/17/2013 11:34:53 PM PST by expat1000
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To: varmintman

There is tons of interesting things we can get from military surplus websites including an old british destroyer.

About the nuclear weapons and chemical weapons, much of the government owns patents on, therefore I highly doubt we would be able to simply buy develop on our own. However, owning a howitzers, tanks, attack helos, air bombers with the bombs should not really be banned. It does get to a point to where of economics about what is most effective for a citizen to maintain. As far as being able to train on these, that is another dilema in itself. You would have to have a 200,000 acre ranch in Wyoming or something.

One thing people need to remind themselves though, what was the British army marching to Concord for? So when they ask stupid questions like “What do you need these guns for?”. They should think about this.


62 posted on 01/18/2013 3:04:20 AM PST by castlegreyskull
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To: varmintman

There is tons of interesting things we can get from military surplus websites including an old british destroyer.

About the nuclear weapons and chemical weapons, much of the government owns patents on, therefore I highly doubt we would be able to simply buy develop on our own. However, owning a howitzers, tanks, attack helos, air bombers with the bombs should not really be banned. It does get to a point to where of economics about what is most effective for a citizen to maintain. As far as being able to train on these, that is another dilema in itself. You would have to have a 200,000 acre ranch in Wyoming or something.

One thing people need to remind themselves though, what was the British army marching to Concord for? So when they ask stupid questions like “What do you need these guns for?”. They should think about this.


63 posted on 01/18/2013 3:08:21 AM PST by castlegreyskull
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To: varmintman
Are we less trustworthy than AQ??

I liked your point up until the end. I do not give a rat's ass what government trusts me with. They are not my momma. If government trust is the test, then we are all subject to the whims and supposed fears of Nancy Pelosi and Sheila Jackson Lee. Noooo thanks!

64 posted on 01/18/2013 3:15:05 AM PST by Teacher317 ('Tis time to fear when tyrants seem to kiss.)
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To: cripplecreek

Hmmm....drum AND belt magazines. A bit hard to conceal, though.


65 posted on 01/18/2013 3:53:26 AM PST by Wonder Warthog
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To: castlegreyskull

>>One thing people need to remind themselves though, what was the British army marching to Concord for?

I find that Liberals shilling for gun civil rights infringements have no idea whatsoever.


66 posted on 01/18/2013 3:54:53 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: glock rocks
Just what is the implication here?.. my answer: Bigger than your women are used to, little man.

Insulting and mocking leftists is the way to go. A remarkable amount of leftism is nothing more than size envy, not just the size of your gun, but soft drink, hamburger, salt shaker, family, car, house. Envy is a side effect of vanity. Leftists are extremely vulnerable to insults, but conservatives are often too polite to use them.

67 posted on 01/18/2013 4:06:12 AM PST by Reeses
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To: FreedomPoster

“I find that Liberals shilling for gun civil rights infringements have no idea whatsoever.”

Sometimes I don’t think they really see it as a civil right at all. They see people who own guns as obama would call them as “bitter clingers”. They have their stereotypes of who owns guns and they want to do what it takes to make them as unhappy as they are. They do not look at it as a liberty issue. They will say things like well the Constitution was written in another time when we had Indians on the frontier. You heard it all.

However, I really think the sole reason why most liberals applaud this, is because they see it as a victory over Republicans and Conservatives nothing more. They really don’t consider the possibility that one day the TSA/FEMA army will be storming through their neighborhood rounding up party agitators and they might accidentitally be thrown into the box truck with the other “bitter clingers”. Or while this is happening they attempt to run for shelter to the last known person in their neighborhood with an “assualt rifle”. At that time it will be defined as a “Rider BB gun” with 5 pellets.


68 posted on 01/18/2013 4:17:42 AM PST by castlegreyskull
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To: neverdem

AS BIG OF A GUN AS ONE WISHES TO PURCHASE!


69 posted on 01/18/2013 4:51:34 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: neverdem
"How much firepower does anyone need?"

Currently, the question is how much firepower can I conceal. Once we get Open Carry this .32 will live out its life in my sock drawer and I'll carry my Ranch Hand .45 Colt. It only holds 7 rounds but they are 300gr @ 1050 fps so the need to Double Tap drops making an effective mag of 14.

"How much firepower does anyone need?"

When asked why he carried a .45 the old Texas Ranger said "Because the don't make a .46."

I can tow a 75mm Pack Howitzer behind my car but it would affect the Harly's handling too much.

70 posted on 01/18/2013 4:51:44 AM PST by Feckless (I was trained by the US << This Tagline Censored by FR >> ain't that irOnic?)
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To: mylife
Does a Woman NEED a 10 carat diamond ring to symbolize a union when a cigar band will suffice?

Do Dolly Parton and Bubbles LaRue really need them monster breasts?

71 posted on 01/18/2013 5:21:53 AM PST by trebb (Allies no longer trust us. Enemies no longer fear us.)
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To: mylife

Does Bill Gates or Warren Buffett NEED a house bigger than 2500 square feet? Do they NEED more than ten million dollars? Does Obama NEED a vacation a month? Do I NEED the damned federal government to stay in its freakin’ cage and leave me the hell alone? Damned straight I do, I need it like roses need rain, like squirrels need nuts etc. etc. etc.


72 posted on 01/18/2013 5:33:04 AM PST by RipSawyer (I was born on Earth, what planet is this?)
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To: Rebelbase

So...THAT is Henry, right? He probably just finished feeding the hogs.


73 posted on 01/18/2013 5:36:46 AM PST by RipSawyer (I was born on Earth, what planet is this?)
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To: castlegreyskull

“They have their stereotypes of who owns guns and they want to do what it takes to make them as unhappy as they are.”
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That is it!!!!! I can’t recall ever knowing a real second amendment opponent who seemed capable of even the slightest enjoyment of just being alive. I on the other hand sometimes am grouchy and grumpy but I can appreciate the wonder of just being alive. I can watch a Bluebird in my yard and enjoy the experience more than a grouch like Obama can ever enjoy anything. Any picture of him where he seems to be smiling is more of an actual grimace or a look of arrogance, pride, scorn etc. I don’t recall ever seeing a picture where he looked like someone I would want within ten miles of me.


74 posted on 01/18/2013 5:56:12 AM PST by RipSawyer (I was born on Earth, what planet is this?)
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To: neverdem

             

75 posted on 01/18/2013 5:58:28 AM PST by tomkat ( .. shall NOT be infringed)
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To: MasterGunner01
BTW, did anyone know there are no laws regulating or prohibiting flamethrowers? Nothing says “stopping power” like a squirt of 2,200 degree Fahrenheit flaming jellied gasoline.

I once saw someone light up a can of starting fluid (ether) with a $0.79 Bic lighter. 10 foot diameter fireball.

76 posted on 01/18/2013 5:59:45 AM PST by Disambiguator (Gun ownership is pro-life.)
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To: yadent

“At the very minimum, whatever law enforcement possesses. After all, they are dealing with same unsavory citizens you and I have to live amongst. Plus ordinary folk have NO right to police protection.”

Well, you did use the words “at the very minimum”. So, guess you’re off the hook, sorta :)

Sadly, most police forces have gone to the 9mm for standard issue which is marginal at best for knock down/ killing power. However, it’s redeeming quality is that it’s easier to shoot by females and casual shooter which is the category most uniformed police fall in. And, being the first criteria of a shoot out is to hit the target, the 9mm gives these folks the best chance. And, that it will hold around 15 rounds as compared to say a 1911 which holds only 7 rounds. Just FYI, I am old school and carry some sort of 1911 variation most of the time. But, I am guilty of dropping my little Pocketlite 380 in my pocket from time to time, lol :)


77 posted on 01/18/2013 6:14:41 AM PST by snoringbear (E.oGovernment is the Pimp,)
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To: Psycho_Bunny

It is a right, not a need. It is as simple as that!


78 posted on 01/18/2013 6:19:42 AM PST by Revolutionary ("Praise the Lord and Pass the Ammunition!")
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To: neverdem

.88 Magnum.

Left-hand Gun of Navarone.

Something big enough to shoot school buses into orbit.

“Planet-smasher superlaser” for my new Death Star.

That’d be a good start.


79 posted on 01/18/2013 6:24:45 AM PST by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: neverdem

Dunno. I keep feeling the need for a 20mm anti-tank rifle, myself, say a Lahti. Or maybe a 14.5mm PTRS-41.


80 posted on 01/18/2013 6:31:46 AM PST by Little Ray (Waiting for the return of the Gods of the Copybook Headings.)
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To: Little Ray
Check out Anzio Iron Works.

Even has an optional suppressor for your 20mm. Price is a bit less than what you can find a Solothurn or a Lahti for.

81 posted on 01/18/2013 6:35:24 AM PST by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: Malone LaVeigh

I have a pic of the original gun. Its at the Army base where Geronimo is buried.


82 posted on 01/18/2013 6:47:28 AM PST by USAF80
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To: Dead Corpse

Thanks!


83 posted on 01/18/2013 6:51:53 AM PST by Little Ray (Waiting for the return of the Gods of the Copybook Headings.)
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To: Psycho_Bunny

At one point I had the “Lucy” as a ready example.

She was a privateer that was very well armed. Occasionally she also carried letters of marque.

The Lucy sailed with a fine armament - in private hands.


84 posted on 01/18/2013 6:57:48 AM PST by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: Morris70
A gustav gun on your front lawn...

Well, I was thinking "an 88", but why not?

85 posted on 01/18/2013 7:16:24 AM PST by GingisK
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To: Morris70
A gustav gun on your front lawn...

Well, I was thinking "an 88", but why not?

86 posted on 01/18/2013 7:16:37 AM PST by GingisK
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To: farlander
The heck is that thing ?!?

That is the gun the A10 Warthog was built around.


87 posted on 01/18/2013 7:17:15 AM PST by Arrowhead1952 (0 bummer inherited a worse economy in 2012 than he did in 2008.)
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To: cripplecreek; All
needs to be bigger cannon...huntin' (TWO -legged:) Vermin. :-D

88 posted on 01/18/2013 7:23:19 AM PST by skinkinthegrass (who'll take tomorrow,spend it all today;who can take your income,tax it all away..0'Bozo man can :-)
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To: caveat emptor
YES! SIR! ...very well dressed..
pttss..needs a bigger gun.

89 posted on 01/18/2013 7:27:08 AM PST by skinkinthegrass (who'll take tomorrow,spend it all today;who can take your income,tax it all away..0'Bozo man can :-)
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To: Nailbiter
At the bare minimum whatever the fed govt possesses, since they are buying with my tax dollars. I have the right to be equally armed.

The Second Amendment was written to allow possession of flintlock muskets.

At the time flintlock muskets were the highest military gun technology available.

The Founding Fathers clearly intended that the average citizen have the highest military gun technology available.

No reason to change that...

see tagline...

90 posted on 01/18/2013 7:35:21 AM PST by null and void (Gun confiscation enables tyranny. Don't enable Tyranny)
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To: Rebelbase; cripplecreek
Now! THAT'S ought big to be big enough...I'll take two, please...

& 30 Thousand rounds.

1in. cal. Bushmaster?

91 posted on 01/18/2013 7:37:28 AM PST by skinkinthegrass (who'll take tomorrow,spend it all today;who can take your income,tax it all away..0'Bozo man can :-)
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To: cripplecreek

Perhaps, if I remove the back seat, I can mount that baby in my Suburban...


92 posted on 01/18/2013 7:41:11 AM PST by aragorn (We do indeed live in interesting times. FUBO.)
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To: KrisKrinkle; farlander
You never saw a Volkswagon Beetle before?
*snickering*...

93 posted on 01/18/2013 7:42:26 AM PST by skinkinthegrass (who'll take tomorrow,spend it all today;who can take your income,tax it all away..0'Bozo man can :-)
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To: castlegreyskull
About the nuclear weapons and chemical weapons, much of the government owns patents on

Patents expire after 20 years.

There are no nuclear weapons patents. A patent requires disclosing the technology.

OTOH, there is no patent on the Coca-Cola recipe either...

94 posted on 01/18/2013 7:43:03 AM PST by null and void (Gun confiscation enables tyranny. Don't enable Tyranny)
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To: castlegreyskull
They really don’t consider the possibility that one day the TSA/FEMA army will be storming through their neighborhood rounding up party agitators and they might accidentitally be thrown into the box truck with the other “bitter clingers”.

Point of order: The leftist WILL be rounded up at that point. It will NOT be accidental.

The new dictatorship has no use for people with a proven track-record of disloyalty to their old government and the skills and will to overthrow it.

95 posted on 01/18/2013 7:49:16 AM PST by null and void (Gun confiscation enables tyranny. Don't enable Tyranny)
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To: Lurker
Any firearm I can carry will still weigh a damn sight less than any cop I could carry.

I hear you bro.


96 posted on 01/18/2013 7:57:35 AM PST by Covenantor ("Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern." Chesterton)
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To: castlegreyskull

A few cruise missiles launched offshore of Saudi Arabia would seem doable by private enterprise.


97 posted on 01/18/2013 8:46:33 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: Disambiguator

The bad things about carrying a flamethrower are: (1) heavy, (2) bulky, (3) makes you a target, (4) you get fried if the fuel in the tanks gets ignited anywhere but the muzzle of the flame gun, (5) the flame mixture tends to make the operator violently ill, and (6) the heat from the fire (2,200 degrees F) is incredible for the operator. Other than these few drawbacks, flamethrowers are cool. [However, they are unsuited for concealed carry.]


98 posted on 01/18/2013 8:50:29 AM PST by MasterGunner01
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To: neverdem

The Choom Gang must not be allowed to dictate to the Boom Gang...


99 posted on 01/18/2013 9:11:56 AM PST by LachlanMinnesota
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To: Rebelbase

A 20MM Lahti.My brother used to own one of those.Used old car engines as target,one hit would shatter the block.


100 posted on 01/18/2013 9:21:22 AM PST by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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