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Obama gun order triples Cabinet agencies required to track guns
washingtonexaminer.com ^ | January 16, 2013 | Paul Bedard

Posted on 01/17/2013 1:02:36 PM PST by TLI

President Obama is tripling the number of Cabinet agencies with gun control law enforcement responsibilities in his new bid to track guns, adding six agencies to the three typically included--Justice, Homeland Security and Defense.

Section 1.e of his executive order released Wednesday adds State, Treasury, Interior, Agriculture, Energy, and Veterans Affairs. It reads: "For purposes of this memorandum, 'Federal law enforcement agencies' means the Departments of State, the Treasury, Defense, Justice, the Interior, Agriculture, Energy, Veterans Affairs, and Homeland Security, and such other agencies and offices that regularly recover firearms in the course of their criminal investigations as the President may designate."

Most federal agencies have a police or security arm, but typically law enforcement doesn't included those other six agencies. Justice, in fact, defines law enforcement this way on its web page:

"A federal law enforcement agency is an organizational unit, or subunit, of the federal government with the principle functions of prevention, detection, and investigation of crime and the apprehension of alleged offenders. Examples of federal law enforcement agencies include the U.S. Customs and Border Protection, Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), the Secret Service, and the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms (ATF). BJS has surveyed federal law enforcement agencies seven times since 1993. The 2008 Census of Federal Law Enforcement Officers (FLEO) included agencies that employed full-time officers with federal arrest authority who were also authorized (but not necessarily required) to carry firearms while on duty. The officer counts exclude officers in the U.S. Armed Forces (Army, Navy, Air Force, Marines, and Coast Guard), the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), and the Transportation Security Administration's Federal Air Marshals. Findings are based on the 2008 Census of Federal Law Enforcement Officers."

Watchdog blogger Jeryl Bier, who pens the blog Speak with Authority, called the expansion "sweeping," although he conceded that it is unclear why the definition has been expanded from three federal agencies to nine. It appears, however, that the president is signaling to all Cabinet agencies that he expects them to help track guns.

"This is a pretty sweeping definition compared to the Justice Department's definition," Bier blogged Wednesday. "Since the memo also addressed other executive departments and agencies,' it is unclear what this partial deputizing of other agencies as 'law enforcement' means."


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Department of Defense? The military? And Department of Agriculture?

What is the definition of "track guns?"

And just what duties, functions and authority are being invented out of thin air to "track guns?"

What makes these six additional agencies qualified to perform . . . whatever is meant by "track guns?

Will these additional unfunded duties impair those six agencies ability to do their real jobs?

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1 posted on 01/17/2013 1:02:42 PM PST by TLI
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To: TLI

Has Congress authorized funding for these new agencies?


2 posted on 01/17/2013 1:08:10 PM PST by BipolarBob (Happy Hunger Games! May the odds be ever in your favor.)
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To: TLI

Court Bars Navy Vet From Gun Purchase Over 1968 Misdemeanor
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2979145/posts


3 posted on 01/17/2013 1:10:30 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: TLI

Hmm....didn’t a number of these agencies order several hundred million rounds of assorted ammunition earlier this year?

Interesting.


4 posted on 01/17/2013 1:12:22 PM PST by Tucsonican
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To: Tucsonican

The beginnings of Obama’s civilian security force that he wants to build?


5 posted on 01/17/2013 1:15:00 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Tucsonican

Jobs for the Black Panthers?


6 posted on 01/17/2013 1:15:44 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: TLI

Veterans Affairs and our military are now law enforcement agencies?


7 posted on 01/17/2013 1:18:09 PM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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To: TLI

The huge agencies ammo purchases may have been normal and “regularly scheduled,” but what if they weren’t

230:1


8 posted on 01/17/2013 1:19:17 PM PST by petro45acp (More sheepdogs please...)
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To: TLI

bookmark


9 posted on 01/17/2013 1:20:37 PM PST by squarebarb ( Fairy tales are basically true.)
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To: BipolarBob

Has Congress authorized funding for these new agencies?
............................................................If it hasn’t already it soon will. They do whatever Obama tells them to do and they all spend money likes it’s water.


10 posted on 01/17/2013 1:24:05 PM PST by Venturer
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To: BipolarBob
Has Congress authorized funding for these new agencies?

Not necessary if Obama declares Congress out of session, again.

11 posted on 01/17/2013 1:28:44 PM PST by tsowellfan (cafenetamerica.com)
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To: TLI

Veterans departments? Surely they are not considering disarming the people with military experience and training. That would be as stupid as disarming everyone on a military base.


12 posted on 01/17/2013 1:29:33 PM PST by DBrow
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To: TLI

More government bow wows...


13 posted on 01/17/2013 1:33:07 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (In the game of life, there are no betting limits)
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To: Tucsonican

Bingo....ties in with all of the ammo purchases. My my how all of this planning is coming together. How convienient for the annointed one.

Is it still too early?????


14 posted on 01/17/2013 1:36:36 PM PST by eartick (Been to the line in the sand and liked it)
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To: DBrow
Surely they are not considering disarming the people with military experience and training.

We all know how much he respects the military . . .

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15 posted on 01/17/2013 1:39:59 PM PST by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: TLI

Everytime little spoiled 3 year old hussein doesn’t immediately get his way he cries, stomps is feet and threatens to hold his breath. Whaaaaaaa!


16 posted on 01/17/2013 1:46:28 PM PST by bgill (We've passed the point of no return. Welcome to Al Amerika.)
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Veterans Affairs and our military are now law enforcement agencies?

The Posse Comitatus Act is the United States federal law (18 U.S.C. § 1385, original at 20 Stat. 152) that was passed on June 18, 1878, after the end of Reconstruction and was updated in 1981. Its intent (in concert with the Insurrection Act of 1807) was to limit the powers of Federal government in using federal military personnel to enforce the State laws. Contrary to popular belief, the Act does prohibit members of the United States Armed Forces from exercising Law enforcement agency powers within a State, police, or peace officer powers that maintain "law and order"; it requires that any authority to do so must exist within the United States Constitution or Act of Congress (which it currently does not except under the Insurrection Act).{Federalist 29 (Hamilton, 1788)} Any use of the Armed Forces under either Title 10/Active Duty or Title 10/Reserves at the direction of the President will offend the Constitutional Law also known as Public Law prohibiting such action unless declared by the President of the United States and approved by Congress.

Looks like a direct violation of the Constitution.

Like that is even noticed by his fascist azz.

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17 posted on 01/17/2013 1:48:54 PM PST by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: TLI

The underlying ploy is continuing to find ways to GROW and EXPAND the Government and those EMPLOYED by it and DEPENDENT upon it.<p?

The U.S. Government is a CANCER that is trying to metastasize.


18 posted on 01/17/2013 1:50:07 PM PST by VideoDoctor
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To: Jim Robinson
The beginnings of Obama’s civilian security force that he wants to build?

It sure seems that way.

19 posted on 01/17/2013 1:51:10 PM PST by Tucsonican
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To: TLI

It sounds to me like the dear leader is following his idol Hugo Chavez’ game plan.
I wonder how far we’ll have to descend into a total dictatorship before the “representatives” in DC put a stop to it.
I am very afraid for our country in the next four years.


20 posted on 01/17/2013 1:59:53 PM PST by taillightchaser (I'm going to become a criminal so I can keep my guns.)
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