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NRA planning ‘the fight of the century’ against Obama
The Washington Post's Post Politics ^ | January 16, 2013 | Sari Horwitz

Posted on 01/16/2013 1:57:14 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

The National Rifle Association cast its opposition to Obama’s plans as “the fight of the century” in a letter circulated at the 35th annual Shooting, Hunting, Outdoor Trade Show and Conference, known in the trade as “the SHOT show,” in Las Vegas.

“I warned you this day was coming and now it’s here,” Wayne LaPierre, the NRA’s fiery executive vice president, wrote in a fund-raising letter to the group’s 4 million members. “It’s not about protecting your children. It’s not about stopping crime. It’s about banning your guns … PERIOD!”

The letter reflected the NRA’s tough, no-holds-barred campaign against tighter restrictions on weapons and echoed a sharp video released by the group that calls Obama an “elitist hypocrite” for having the Secret Service protect his two daughters at school while saying that he is “skeptical” about armed guards in all schools.

The SHOT show draws more than 60,000 gun enthusiasts, dealers and manufacturers to see the latest weapons and accoutrements. The convention floor contains 12 miles of firearms displays, mostly military-style assault rifles, and many booths display the kinds of high-capacity clips the administration wants to ban.

On Wednesday, the brass from the NRA and other gun-advocacy groups spent the day in closed-door sessions planning a response to Obama’s proposals, according to people close to the groups who spoke on condition their names not be used in describing internal deliberations...

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: banglist; congress; democrats; donttreadonme; guncontrol; nra; obama; obamaguns; secondamendment; wewillnotcomply; youwillnotdisarmus
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They'd better!
1 posted on 01/16/2013 1:57:21 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I better hurry up and buy another gun before I can’t!


2 posted on 01/16/2013 2:08:21 PM PST by entropy12 (The republic is doomed when people figure out they can get free stuff by voting democrats)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I like the way Governor Rick Perry put it. “The second amendment to the Constitution is a basic right of free people and cannot be nor will it be abridged by the executive power of this or any other president.”


3 posted on 01/16/2013 2:12:58 PM PST by BAW (We are the Resistance.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The comments on the Wash Post website are quite telling.


4 posted on 01/16/2013 2:15:30 PM PST by HOYA97 (twitter @hoya97)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
mostly military-style assault rifles, and many booths display the kinds of high-capacity clips the administration wants to ban.

They just can't help themselves. It's all about the scary guns.

AND can anyone teach these morons the difference between a "clip" and "magazine". Sheesh, my 9 year old knows the difference.

5 posted on 01/16/2013 2:16:14 PM PST by paulcissa (The first requirement of Liberalism is to stand on your head and tell the world they're upside down)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The MSM is enemy number one.

They need to be removed several pegs down.

Advertisers MUST be educated there is a MONEY COST to advertising on monring joe, CNN, IMUS (an anti-second nut), and any other performer.

Bankruptcy by association.


6 posted on 01/16/2013 2:18:33 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Is anything they say or do really going to matter in the end?


7 posted on 01/16/2013 2:18:45 PM PST by Tzimisce (The American Revolution began when the British attempted to disarm the Colonists.)
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To: Tzimisce

“How does a dead girl show up at the memorial for Sandy Hook victims?”

Florida Atlantic University professor James Tracy is suggesting that the Sandy Hook massacre was really a hoax.

Tracy, who is allegedly known for his conspiracy theories, writes in his blog that the school tragedy was an orchestrated event created by the Obama Administration as a ruse to implement gun control. Connecticut officials understandably want the professor to be terminated.

Read his compelling story! His blog is here: http://memoryholeblog.com/2013/01/01/sandy-hook-the-illusion-of-tragedy/


8 posted on 01/16/2013 2:19:46 PM PST by 2harddrive
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To: BAW

Amen!


9 posted on 01/16/2013 2:20:40 PM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: Tzimisce

“Is anything they say or do really going to matter in the end?”

You honestly said that with your tagline?


10 posted on 01/16/2013 2:22:20 PM PST by VanDeKoik
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To: entropy12

I did 3 weeks ago, a sweet Springfield XD40, 12+1, subcompact. I simply couldn’t find an AR anywhere so opted for personal protection.


11 posted on 01/16/2013 2:23:01 PM PST by GeorgiaDawg32
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To: 2harddrive

Sometimes ‘conspiracy theories’ have very inconvenient facts embedded in them.

There is a video about this; too many things don’t add up.


12 posted on 01/16/2013 2:25:55 PM PST by elpinta (Jer. 10:23 - It really holds true!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Buffalo lawyer Jim Tresmond is filing a class action law suit against the NY law. Looking for a story to post...


13 posted on 01/16/2013 2:31:32 PM PST by ez (When you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail.)
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To: elpinta; 2harddrive

Exactly! Who here really believes that Mr. Lee Harvey Oswald shot President John F. Kennedy?


14 posted on 01/16/2013 2:32:22 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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Maybe Boehner, McConnell, and the other RINOs can co-opt “the fight” for their political benefit.


15 posted on 01/16/2013 2:34:45 PM PST by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

THIS is the way you fight!
Not like Boehner. Not like the GOP.
You say “We won’t stand for it!”
This how you get people to listen!
The whole time the Progs are ridiculing and tsk, tsk-ing guns on every liberal news show bunches of new people are hearing the NRA’s message. Many middle of the road, low info voters have never been exposed to this line of thought. You don’t win people’s respect by being a pushover. If they see the NRA acting in a strong manner more and more will start to agree.

I haven’t always agreed with everything the NRA has done in the past but they’re damn sure singin’ my tune now!


16 posted on 01/16/2013 2:34:49 PM PST by servo1969
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
It's time to arm an army of lawyers and bury these commies in paper.

Send lawyers guns and money!

17 posted on 01/16/2013 2:34:58 PM PST by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: HOYA97

interesting is an understatement. Big Brother is here.

I’m gonna re-read Animal Farm and 1984 tonite. I want to be prepared for what’s coming...

Wonder what gun owners will have to wear on their clothing? I guess instead of a gold star it will be a bulls’ eye target.

After all, they don’t want a good crisis to go to waste...


18 posted on 01/16/2013 2:38:19 PM PST by sassy steel magnolia
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To: BAW

Rick Perry was my choice out of the box precisely because of his views on the Second Amendment and freedom of religion. He was way ahead of his competitors on those issues. Those are the issues we should have cared about.


19 posted on 01/16/2013 2:39:34 PM PST by jersey117
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To: ez

Ny lawyer filing class action-need petition signees asap

http://www.usacarry.com/forums/new-york-discussion-firearm-news/33334-ny-lawyer-filing-class-action-need-petition-signees-asap.html


20 posted on 01/16/2013 2:44:53 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: jersey117

Naw, he was bashed for not doing well at debates. He should have done better, but the primaries showed that GOP voters are basically stupid and want a liberal. I don’t blame any ‘elites’. I blame the base.


21 posted on 01/16/2013 2:47:08 PM PST by Monty22002
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It better not result with him staying in power. Revenge is his other middle name.


22 posted on 01/16/2013 3:00:12 PM PST by crosshairs (They are only assault weapons in the hands of tyrannical governments and criminals. Ban both.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It better not result with him staying in power. Revenge is his other middle name.


23 posted on 01/16/2013 3:00:30 PM PST by crosshairs (They are only assault weapons in the hands of tyrannical governments and criminals. Ban both.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It better not result with him staying in power. Revenge is his other middle name.


24 posted on 01/16/2013 3:00:30 PM PST by crosshairs (They are only assault weapons in the hands of tyrannical governments and criminals. Ban both.)
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To: longtermmemmory

agreed, if we’re going to stop this madness then we need to go after the media, it is they who are informing the low info voters out there and the sad part is that these low info voters actually hear the media and then repeat the talking points to their family , neighbors and friends


25 posted on 01/16/2013 3:02:09 PM PST by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: entropy12
I'm relieved, for the moment, that 0b0z0 didn't try to institute a background check for picking up a couple of boxes of ammo.

That inefficiency, alone, could sink the economy.

26 posted on 01/16/2013 3:05:24 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
“It’s not about protecting your children. It’s not about stopping crime. It’s about banning your guns … PERIOD!”

True. The public schools manufacture these screwed up kids by the thousands each year. There hasn't been one thing done about it. Not one.
Ritalin in made in Sweden. 80% of all the medication they make is sent to the US.. School aged boys are the biggest beneficiary of these drugs.

At least fourteen recent school shootings were committed by those taking or withdrawing from psychiatric drugs. There have been 109 wounded and 58 killed. Of these 14, seven were seeing either a psychiatrist (5 of them) or psychologist (2 of them). It is not known whether or not the other half were seeing a psychiatrist, as it has not been published.

There is no Dr patient confidentiality when the patient is dead. The focus should be on what treatment and what drugs was Adam Lanza on?? instead of what guns he used.! Why is there no cry for the banning of psychotropic drugs??? The politicians prefer to go after the guns! They want to "treat the symptoms" rather than attack the disease.
There's no need to ask why. We know why.

27 posted on 01/16/2013 3:11:56 PM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: ez

Thanks...my name is submitted to join the suit.


28 posted on 01/16/2013 3:40:25 PM PST by ez (When you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail.)
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To: Monty22002

He was rightly bashed because although great on 2A and land/energy, he is abysmal in other areas. His HPV fiasco was a campaign wrecker for one. Telling people they must inject their kids is not a conservative value.


29 posted on 01/16/2013 3:43:36 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Thanks...I’m om board.


30 posted on 01/16/2013 3:50:42 PM PST by ez (When you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; elpinta; 2harddrive

“...Mr. Lee Harvey Oswald...”

Hmmm...brings up a question...Assuming, of course, that one actually BELIEVES the Warren Commission and that Oswald did it alone with his Arlen Specter-approved “Magic Bullet”...

Did Oswald use an “assault Mannlicher-Carcano Bolt Action Rifle”...or did he simply “assault” JFK with a crappy old bolt-action Italian rifle???

And since the Mannlicher-Carcano had a bayonet lug, an internal “magazine” which was loaded by evil “clips” and an extremely EEEEEEEEEEEEVIL telescope...did that make it more or less deadly than a modern day “assault” rifle sitting in your gun cabinet that hasn’t shot anyone...???

I mean it’s guess it’s even MORE EVILER because he got it through the horrific “Mail-Order Loophole” waaaaay back in the early 1960s, when Americans were still free to purchase whatever they wanted, could have it shipped to their doorstep, and America was just such a vi’lint, eeevil, white supremacist rayycist nation an’ all..

I mean...I’m jus’ wonderin’ an all... there must have been THOUSANDS of dead chilruns back then in the bad ol’ days... when Americans had all them guns... back before we had gun control to “save just ONE life!”


31 posted on 01/16/2013 3:56:32 PM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: Norm Lenhart

Yeah, he had a major faults. But was still better than Romney. And if he had won he’d maybe do 1/5 of these EO’s and never pressure congress for an AWB. I think Romney would’ve pushed for an AWB as well.


32 posted on 01/16/2013 3:57:19 PM PST by Monty22002
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To: Monty22002

His record in mass pretty much pointed the odds in that direction.

But the whole thing is that (may be too late) we have to stop fielding half-conservatives to begin with. Because we are now living the results of that REALLY bad idea with the Bhoners et all of the House and Senate.


33 posted on 01/16/2013 4:00:45 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: NFHale

“...did that make it more or less deadly than a modern day “assault” rifle sitting in your gun cabinet that hasn’t shot anyone...???”

Wait till they start pushing the average hunting scoped 30-06 as a sniper rifle. Because in reality, that’s exactly what it is and does. To very great distances and with great accuracy.

And it’s WAY more deadly in anything but a spray and pray situation.


34 posted on 01/16/2013 4:04:57 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I would much rather see the NRA attack Odinga on the basis of being a traitor to his oath of office to defend the Constituion.

Also, everytime a Representative or Senator within the Beltway or at the State level opens their mouth about removing our 2nd Amendment rights, the NRA attack dogs would be unleashed on them driving them back into a dark cold corner never to be heard from again.

Challenge them for their failure to uphold their oath.

Challenge them for the traitors that they are

Repeat their names over and over again in commercials on the radio and TV.

Call for their state to have them recalled

These Representatives and Senators are the ones that have to be ground down to dust.


35 posted on 01/16/2013 4:07:15 PM PST by eartick (Been to the line in the sand and liked it)
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To: Norm Lenhart

“...hunting scoped 30-06 as a sniper rifle....”

Nahh....COULDN’T be...it doesn’t have an evil “pistol grip”...doesn’t have an evil “bayonet lug”...doesn’t have an evil “30-round ‘clip’”...or an evil “flash suppressor”...or made of black umm, err, whatever it’s made of...yeah...that’s the ticket...

Why, jes’ ever’body KNOWS that that be’s the ONLY criteria for an “assault rifle!”

And that li’l ol’ deer rifle is only for Deer, after all, Norm!!!


36 posted on 01/16/2013 4:12:19 PM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: NFHale

I know...

It’s common knowledge that a projectile about 5 times the size backed by a lot more explosive pressure fired from a longer barrel with more accuracy can only hit deer in forest.

I know that. I do. But these libs get some really strange ideas so who knows..


37 posted on 01/16/2013 4:17:58 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

No-holds-barred, eh? Why is the 86 FOPA with the Hughes Amendment still on the books? Why was the 94 AWB allowed to pass?


38 posted on 01/16/2013 4:24:36 PM PST by wastedyears (Obama and Democrats to Republicans: "LOL!")
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To: Norm Lenhart

I mean, after all...

...you can only Deer with a “deer rifle”

...you can only hunt hogs with a “hog rifle”

...you can only hunt goose and turkey with a shotgun

... and only “assault rifles” were made for “killing and only killing!!!” (You have to say that part with your voice rising to a near-hysterical shriek, full of righteous liberal anger...and then end it with “Our Children!!!!!” so da wimmin folk voters get good an lathered up).

It’s how it works, after all...


39 posted on 01/16/2013 4:25:24 PM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: NFHale

Back in my misspent youth, I had grandpa’s 32 Special out one day and discorporated a squirrel. Since we know that a gun like that is made for somewhat different uses, I was unsurprised when the bits of flesh reformed into a squirrel and it went on it’s merry way.

Proof positive that once designated to a certain category, a gun can only do that thing and none other.

So it’s obvious that without assault weapons, assaults will immediately cease.

Praise Obama and his wisdom!


40 posted on 01/16/2013 4:32:05 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: Norm Lenhart

“...Praise Obama and his wisdom!...”

He really is...just...just...the GINCHIEST, ain’t he?

Damn...I got a tingle up my spine just now...

Hey...wait a minute...did Granpaw get that thing through the evil “Mail Order Loophole”?

Or was it...wait for it....yer gonna kill me....

“GRANDFATHERED” in?


41 posted on 01/16/2013 4:39:18 PM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I added my name.


42 posted on 01/16/2013 4:46:18 PM PST by wtc911 (Amigo - you've been had.)
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To: NFHale

Best I can figure it was ‘GREAT-granfathered in” ;)

Octagon into round barrel, lever action cowboy gun....and Ammo about 100 bucks a box...when you can find some boutique place to make it.

Used to sit on the mantle...and then one day I was out in the desert and a bunch of robed and bearded men took it from me. They threatened to behead my family if I ever went to the police and reported the theft.

Naturally after 9/11 and knowing it’s rraaaacistttt! to cast accusations on these holy men, I remained silent all these years, mourning it’s loss...


43 posted on 01/16/2013 4:47:03 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: Norm Lenhart

LOVE old lever guns...

Had an old Marlin 1895G in .45-70 years ago. Shortened barrel, nasty little piece of hardware. Guy I bought it from hunted bear with it (it was a “Bear Hunting Gun” after all).

It let you know you were alive when you threw it up to your shoulder and touched one off, man...I became “the human recoil pad”. My buddies and I would shoot a box or two, and then stand around laughing and whining like Frenchmen for an hour with big red welts on the shoulders... We’d shoot it, then laugh like hell.

Sold it...sigh...she was a sweetie though. Ammo was 25 bucks a box back then for it. Probably totally ridiculous now.

Funny, when you think about it...some of the best times I’ve had in my life have been on the range, in tactical matches, three-gun matches, long-range shooting competitions, etc. Guns and gunnies everywhere.

And nobody - NOBODY - ever got killed there, ever.


44 posted on 01/16/2013 4:59:01 PM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: NFHale

I assume you had the correct gun for each individual situation?

The thought of firing a bear gun at a paper target...well, the mind reels! And of course, it is simply not possible for people to die on a range unless assault weapons or ‘Glocks’ are present.

But why would they be? They only kill people. They simply cannot hit paper. So unless you took one specifically to kill people, it stands to reason no one died. Fortunately for all involved, no one did. I am actually relieved you all were God-fearing men. You had the moral fortitude to resist the demonic spirits living within any Assault Rifles that may have been near by.

If only one child can be saved from the Assault Devils within black guns, no cost is too great to bear.


45 posted on 01/16/2013 5:09:52 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: Norm Lenhart; NFHale

Those evil Salt Devils!
I got a salt devil in a papercut once, boy did that hurt.


46 posted on 01/16/2013 5:20:13 PM PST by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free.....)
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To: NFHale

“LOVE old lever guns...”

I just pray that the Libs never learn the horror-filled truth about lever/bolt action guns.

While they distract the public with the Satanic Majesty of the AR and the like...all those thin stamped metal/plastic and spot welded parts that are known to jam, potentially saving peoples lives through design/manufacturing issues...

We know that the secret Lever Action and Bolt Action projectors of great happiness and rainbows are almost impossible to jam, are made of machined steel and sometimes exotic alloys and are available to nearly EVERYONE.

Scoped. And sighted.

For great justice!...Er, happiness and puppies!

And because they by nature have limited capacity, the ALF- Earth First! unapprived target/deerslayer of death and great happiness pulling those carefully assembled in America triggers has to, by DESIGN!!!, put more effort into choosing and hitting his/her paper target. Or Wombat.

Which means logically, that what he aims at, rather than sprays at, is likely to get critically hit, the gun not jam on reload and the target be hit again.

These are instruments of great terror! And happiness.

Unlike those AR derivatives. Which as we know, only hit people due to their inherent design flaws.


47 posted on 01/16/2013 5:33:59 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: Darksheare

The Lacquer Thinner Devils are quite viscous as well!


48 posted on 01/16/2013 5:36:30 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: Norm Lenhart

Potato Juice devils too!
Was peeling a potato one fine evening, got cut and the potato decided to attack me!
Terrible, I must warn everyone about the danger posed by the lowly potato!
We need potato control!


49 posted on 01/16/2013 5:39:00 PM PST by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free.....)
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To: Darksheare

Along with Black potato guns...

ASSAULT POTATO GUNS!!!!


50 posted on 01/16/2013 5:42:01 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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