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Ted Nugent ammo sells out, says cops won't obey Obama on guns
Washington Examiner ^ | January 15, 2013 | 12:39 pm | Paul Bedard

Posted on 01/15/2013 7:46:49 PM PST by Red Steel

Ted Nugent, the rocker and Michigan deputy sheriff whose new line of ammunition has sold out amid gun control worries, claims members of state and federal law enforcement are poised to disobey any order by President Obama to seize guns.

Nugent, whose trained with the FBI, ATF and DEA, on Tuesday cited a group called "Oath Keepers," members of federal and state police and military organizations, who will not enforce laws that conflict with the Constitution and presumably the Second Amendment right to arms.

In an interview with the "Andrea Tantaros Show with Jason Mattera," Nugent said that if ordered to seize his guns, the "Oath Keepers" would refuse. "First of all," he said if military or law enforcement officials showed up at his Texas ranch, "I'd slice them a shank of venison because most of them are my friends."

He explained: "There is an official organization called 'Oath Keepers,' and these are heros of law enforcement and the military who will not obey an order, an illegal, anti-Constitution, oath-breaking order to infringe that far on our Second Amendment rights."

He predicted that "many will" refuse to enforce orders violating their interpretation of the Second Amendment, but not all, and he cited the Waco, Texas attack during the Clinton administration, as an example.

The Oath Keepers webpage details broadly the group's mission: "Oath Keepers is a non-partisan association of currently serving military, veterans, peace officers, and firefighters who will fulfill the oath we swore to support and defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic, so help us God.

"Our oath is to the Constitution, not to the politicians, and we will not obey unconstitutional (and thus illegal) and immoral orders, such as orders to disarm the American people or to place them under martial law and deprive them of their ancient right to jury trial."

In the interview, Nugent also revealed that Obama's threat to gun owners has helped him sell out his new line of ammunition for rifles and pistols.

"I'm in the gun industry," he said. "I have my own Ted Nugent line of ammo that has sold out every pallet that we can back into a sporting goods store."


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; guncontrol; oathkeepers; secondamendment; youwillnotdisarmus
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1 posted on 01/15/2013 7:46:55 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

The problem is, there are probably 10 that will enforce new gun laws for every one that will look the other way, and you have no idea of knowing which one will do what.


2 posted on 01/15/2013 7:53:40 PM PST by Husker24
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To: Red Steel
Ouch! $46 a box!


3 posted on 01/15/2013 7:56:34 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Husker24

probably not ~ if there’s any sense of a widespread uprising the cops will take care of their own families first


4 posted on 01/15/2013 7:57:29 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Red Steel

He’s right. The military, and police, how they are currently comprised will not follow orders to round up weapons, and go against their fellow countrymen.

However, I am also very much aware that a volunteer military and a police force, that are slowly being transformed away from those ideals will not be a military and police force that will always protect those ideals.

And I don’t think a police force that shoots labs and Chihuahuas is one that concerns itself with Constitutional rights.


5 posted on 01/15/2013 7:58:54 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: mylife

Damn Ted, at that price those better be Depleted Uranium rounds.


6 posted on 01/15/2013 7:59:25 PM PST by Husker24
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To: Red Steel

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d516tIViRLI&;


7 posted on 01/15/2013 8:00:10 PM PST by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: mylife
Ouch! $46 a box!

You never know - by this time tomorrow, that might be a real bargain!

8 posted on 01/15/2013 8:00:45 PM PST by lrslattery
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To: Husker24

Maybe those rounds sing Wango Tango on their way down range...


9 posted on 01/15/2013 8:01:34 PM PST by TADSLOS ( "I ask sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people except for a few politicians."-George Mason)
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To: Husker24; All

I’m not concerned about the trained and equipt law enforcement officers who would follow such and assinine agenda...

I’m really concerned about the rest off the nieghborhood that might suspect, therefore drop a dime on my operationm when I least expect it...

The list of people I trust is very short...And there are not a lot of family members on it...

Thats where I believe a lot of people are these days...

Be very careful who you bluster towards, outside the anonymity of forums like this...

Off this keyboard, I really don’t talk to a lot of people nowadays...

Just my opinion...


10 posted on 01/15/2013 8:01:50 PM PST by stevie_d_64 (It's not the color of one's skin that offends people...it's how thin it is.)
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To: Husker24

They are Barnes bullets.


11 posted on 01/15/2013 8:01:56 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Red Steel

Sorry, the days where cops are your friend and respectable, fine members of our society are long gone.

The WOD, MADD, Low speed limits ensured that only the most corrupt low life thugs would populate our police forces.

Most cops will get a hard on enforcing any anti-gun or other Unconstitutional law this administration comes up with.


12 posted on 01/15/2013 8:03:21 PM PST by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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To: lrslattery

True enough.


13 posted on 01/15/2013 8:04:14 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Husker24

Maybe they whistle, “Cat Scratch Fever” as they fly through the air.


14 posted on 01/15/2013 8:05:04 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: Husker24

They aren’t going to seize guns. Not all at once. This will be done slowly, in increments.


15 posted on 01/15/2013 8:06:22 PM PST by cydcharisse (`)
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To: Red Steel
Photobucket Not today. Not tomorrow, Not ever.

Pardon me if I seem the rube, but isn't the very term " assault weapon" just some military inspired term coined by some lickspittle government fanboy to sound cool?

I thought these self loading sporting rifles were called autoloaders

Sure the old autoloaders were somewhat limited in capacity due to the technology of the day but what isn't? - If technology isn't here to benefit We the People, why in the hell are we paying for it? Why don't we just go back to riding around in horse drawn buggies?

As for the communist in chief - I'm a little tired of his gas - he talks too much for a fighting man. Make your stupid little laws and see what good it does.

16 posted on 01/15/2013 8:06:54 PM PST by atc23 (The Confederacy was the single greatest conservative resistance to federal authority ever.u)
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To: Red Steel

A Peace Officer in the next town over leads our Oath Keepers group. He has told us that local LEO’s will NOT obey unlawful orders to confiscate firearms.

Also, our sheriff hosts Appleseed shoots at the county training range. About half of the red and orange hats are his deputies.


17 posted on 01/15/2013 8:07:09 PM PST by EdReform (Oath Keepers - Guardians of the Republic - Honor your oath - Join us: www.oathkeepers.org)
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To: qam1

Your right .
The cops enjoyed pulling the guns from defenseless
Nola citizen fighting off the holder’s people mob during Katrina


18 posted on 01/15/2013 8:10:05 PM PST by ncalburt (Axelrod Psych OPS has gone to 24/7 non stop - "The election is over " status until Nov)
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To: Red Steel
He predicted that "many will" refuse to enforce orders violating their interpretation of the Second Amendment, but not all

And so the battle lines of the US Civil War II, will be drawn.

19 posted on 01/15/2013 8:12:40 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month)
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To: lrslattery

I spent $90 on 100 Sellier & Bellot .22 Hornet 45gr SP 20rds.

That’s the best I could do.

I don’t care what people say, if the SHTF getting shot with a .22 LR is a bad day — At 300 yards, it’s through you. And You can carry 1,000 rounds on you.

If you can find them that is....


20 posted on 01/15/2013 8:12:40 PM PST by Bshaw (A nefarious deceit is upon us all!)
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To: EdReform

“About half of the red and orange hats are his deputies.”

If this nonsense passes, or is proclaimed to be, patriots everywhere will run for the office of Sheriff and deputize their entire counties!

Arm them to the teeth!


21 posted on 01/15/2013 8:15:59 PM PST by Bshaw (A nefarious deceit is upon us all!)
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To: qam1
Most cops will get a hard on enforcing any anti-gun or other Unconstitutional law this administration comes up with.

Won't last too long after the rounds are coming back at them.

22 posted on 01/15/2013 8:18:20 PM PST by going hot (Happiness is a momma deuce)
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To: cydcharisse

Yep. The Fabian Socialist way.


23 posted on 01/15/2013 8:19:27 PM PST by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Great vid by ShorelineMike! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOZjJk6nbD4&feature=plcp)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks Red Steel.
Nugent, whose trained with the FBI, ATF and DEA, on Tuesday cited a group called "Oath Keepers," members of federal and state police and military organizations, who will not enforce laws that conflict with the Constitution and presumably the Second Amendment right to arms.

24 posted on 01/15/2013 8:19:58 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: qam1
Most cops will get a hard on enforcing any anti-gun or other Unconstitutional law this administration comes up with.

If that turns out to be fact, many will expire with wood in their shorts.

25 posted on 01/15/2013 8:20:25 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Humans have eliminated natural selection. Morons are now a protected species. They breed and vote.)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER
And so the battle lines of the US Civil War II, will be drawn.

The battle lines for CWII have already been drawn. Take a look at the red and blue map on a county basis. The questions are how do you determine a friend coming out of a blue county and what do you do with the blues in a red county. This won't be a state by state war. It is a war of red and blue.

26 posted on 01/15/2013 8:24:02 PM PST by ConservativeInPA (Molon Labe)
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To: muawiyah

I agree. If there is war, the fight will be down an dirty, local LEO’s want a home to go to. If the libs think it will be straight up, kill a few patriots while searching their homes, they just don’t know how wrong they are. Search someone’s home, go home, your home is gone. and maybe your family. Get a tip that there are weapons hidden in some old barn, go search and find out the barn has been rigged with a trap., People in this nation have had enough corrupt government to last them a lifetime. When fighting does break out it ain’t gonna be pretty.Problem is, Iam not sure that that isn’t what the purple lipped muslim wants. After all, we are all just infidels to him.


27 posted on 01/15/2013 8:24:25 PM PST by Quickgun (I got here kicking,screaming and covered in someone else's blood. I can go out that way if I have to)
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To: Bshaw

That would be great! Then we could carry in just about any state without worrying about CCW reciprocity.


28 posted on 01/15/2013 8:24:40 PM PST by EdReform (Oath Keepers - Guardians of the Republic - Honor your oath - Join us: www.oathkeepers.org)
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To: cydcharisse
They aren’t going to seize guns. Not all at once. This will be done slowly, in increments.

Lenin - take two steps forward (go as far as you can), come to a bipartisan agreement with Republicans and agree to take one step back. That leaves the Marxists one step closer to their agenda every time, and it appears they were cooperating.
The Republicans look like deer in the headlights, and wonder what the heck just happened.
That's how they get their individual incremental steps, and that's how this country got into the mess it's in. One "bipartisan " step at a time. (This is what happens when the Republicans allow the democrats to set the agenda).

29 posted on 01/15/2013 8:24:52 PM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: Bshaw

I happen to have #50 Winchester 22 Hornet 46 gr for which I don’t have a matching rifle. If you’re interested, $35 + $10 Priority Mail shipping. I am assuming this is legal to sell and ship but would check before doing anything.


30 posted on 01/15/2013 8:26:47 PM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by Nature, not NurtureĀ™)
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To: stevie_d_64

Sound advice.


31 posted on 01/15/2013 8:27:51 PM PST by Tawiskaro
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To: Jonty30
I have heard that there are areas in some major cities that the cops won't even go to unless they're forced to. I've heard that some of those areas don't get regular mail because they're so dangerous.

If government officials had to go into an area and disarm a determined, organized, well armed and somewhat trained enemy, as opposed to a bunch of motley, poorly organized criminals, I'm not sure they would ultimately have much taste for that.

Numbers of gangs and gang members I've heard cited for various cities range from 60 to 100 various gangs and factions of those gangs, and up to 100,000 total members in those cities, and law enforcement hasn't had the will so far to root them out.

Of course they haven't had the convenient excuse of an insurrection, or the dangerous, evil, racist white man rebelling against his rightful masters to give them that little extra incentive.

Ultimately Zero's failure will be in the divisions he has caused to worsen in this country. Governing a large, diverse country with multiple conflicting interests is never easy. That's why the Founders put in the buffer of a republican (small "r") government. Zero is bound and determined to get his way and the rest of us be damned. That's some seriously dangerous ground he's treading.

32 posted on 01/15/2013 8:29:03 PM PST by Hardastarboard (The Liberal ruling class hates me. The feeling is mutual.)
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To: Hardastarboard

My personal belief is that the war on guns is a cover for something else, but that’s just me being cynical.


33 posted on 01/15/2013 8:32:44 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: Red Steel

I really don’t think there are too many local lawmen down here in Texas that will try to carry out Obama’s gun-grabbing dictates. If there are indeed a handful, well, let’s just say I really don’t expect them to last very long. That is, in terms of “breathing.”


34 posted on 01/15/2013 8:33:35 PM PST by greene66
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To: Bshaw
".. a .22 LR ..." "If you can find them that is...."

Everybody who doesn't already have 10,000 raise your hands. They were quite plentiful the last time there was a general run on ammo.

35 posted on 01/15/2013 8:34:54 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: ConservativeInPA

Yeah, the county maps is the first thing I looked at after the election.

It’s pretty much city people vs country people. I doubt the liberals will leave the cities, mostly conservatives and those unprincipled “moderates” formerly too stupid to take any political positions.


36 posted on 01/15/2013 8:36:18 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month)
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To: Hardastarboard

Turning off the EBT cards would be the best way to kick 0bama and his cabal in the teeth.


37 posted on 01/15/2013 8:36:50 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: muawiyah

“if there’s any sense of a widespread uprising the cops will take care of their own families first”

They’ll need to. If they attack other people’s families I have no doubt the favor might be returned.


38 posted on 01/15/2013 8:37:50 PM PST by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off.)
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To: Mortrey

Why would you post such utter bullshit?


39 posted on 01/15/2013 8:43:06 PM PST by Last of the Mohicans
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To: Red Steel
Now! Right now!

If you know a military officer or enlisted person, remind them of their oath, and ask them to be true to it.

The oath is not term-limited, but for life. It does not "expire when you retire." Their oath is to the Constitution...the freedom of their countrymen. That law stands above every other, and above every military regulation, directive, memo, or the direct order of a superior.

This oath embodies the one thing that taxpayers have been paying them for all through their careers.

Similarly, if you know an officer of the law, ask them to be true to their oath, and to study what the original words of the Constitution say, and what those words mean.

For anyone who has sworn an oath to support and defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic, obeying any directive to restrict, in any way, the rights of the people to own and carry firearms, is a direct violation of the Constitution, and of their oath.

Those who would ignore the meaning of the Second Amendment do so not just at risk of retaliation from those whose rights they are attacking, but criminal punishments at the hand of future courts who could very easily prosecute them and impose serious penalties.

Today's dictator may seem secure in his little oval office. But if that man is ever out of the White House, a future Administration could turn the gun control movement against those who attempt to impose it today.

And those of us who respect and Cherie's not only our own rights, but the rights of our countrymen, should insist that any and all future administrations punish any law enforcement officer, any military officer or enlisted person, any politician, and any other current or former government official who violates his oath to protect and defend the Constitution by participating in any current or future restriction of the Second Amendment, in any way. We, as Americans, must loudly proclaim that when Obama is finally swept from power, in whatever way it happens, that we will INSIST the any and all future governments prosecute to the fullest extent of the law, anyone and EVERYONE who participates in robbing Americans of their rights.

40 posted on 01/15/2013 8:47:21 PM PST by RavenATB
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To: Jonty30

“He’s right. The military, and police, how they are currently comprised will not follow orders to round up weapons, and go against their fellow countrymen.

However, I am also very much aware that a volunteer military and a police force, that are slowly being transformed away from those ideals will not be a military and police force that will always protect those ideals.

And I don’t think a police force that shoots labs and Chihuahuas is one that concerns itself with Constitutional rights.”

The feral government will simply transfer people to different areas so that they won’t have ‘neighbors’.


41 posted on 01/15/2013 8:53:17 PM PST by spel_grammer_an_punct_polise (Learn three chords and you, too, can be a Rock Star!)
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To: steve86

I’ll ping you just in case!

While it is legal today, we’re having this conversation pre-Executive Order.

Pathetic!


42 posted on 01/15/2013 8:56:56 PM PST by Bshaw (A nefarious deceit is upon us all!)
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To: Paladin2

“Everybody who doesn’t already have 10,000 raise your hands.”

Ahem, that would be me. I have 100 rounds.... Actually, I don’t 100 rounds yet, I’ve only just ordered them!

If the SHTF, I’ll have to barter a true shot for ammo I guess.


43 posted on 01/15/2013 9:00:41 PM PST by Bshaw (A nefarious deceit is upon us all!)
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44 posted on 01/15/2013 9:11:37 PM PST by potlatch (~)
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To: Jonty30
You mean like Obamas civilian army which he says needs to be just as trained and well funded as our current Military?
I recall that bit of language from Obama during the 08 campaign.
45 posted on 01/15/2013 9:14:08 PM PST by funfan
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To: Bshaw

I like how you think.


46 posted on 01/15/2013 9:14:08 PM PST by healy61
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To: Red Steel

There are lots of Oath Keeprer sleeper cells, that are waiting to be activated. Won’t that be a be surprise to the gun grabbers.

Nothing conspiracy about it, just straight forward talk.


47 posted on 01/15/2013 9:17:26 PM PST by 23 Everest (When seconds count. The police are just 23 minutes away. 831 Bonnie)
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To: 23 Everest

Activated means you pissed us off to the point of militia action. Speaking for myself.


48 posted on 01/15/2013 9:19:20 PM PST by 23 Everest (When seconds count. The police are just 23 minutes away. 831 Bonnie)
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To: 23 Everest

Activated means you pissed us off to the point of militia action. Speaking for myself.


49 posted on 01/15/2013 9:19:25 PM PST by 23 Everest (When seconds count. The police are just 23 minutes away. 831 Bonnie)
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To: 23 Everest

Activated means you pissed us off to the point of militia action. Speaking for myself.


50 posted on 01/15/2013 9:19:34 PM PST by 23 Everest (When seconds count. The police are just 23 minutes away. 831 Bonnie)
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