Biden Proposals Include Framework for Gun Registry and Confiscation

email Gun Owners of America ^ | 1/15/2013 | Gun Owners of America

[FR_addict]

Up to 50-80% of all guns in circulation could be covered

Press reports now make it clear what Vice President Joe Biden’s gun control package will look like. Biden wants to impose:

* A Feinstein-like semi-auto ban which, according to experts who have done the counting, could ban up to 50% of all long guns currently in circulation and up to 80% of all handguns. Incidentally, if you wanted to keep the AR-15 you currently have, you would have to have a 6-month FBI background check, be fingerprinted, and get a machine gun-type license.

* The framework for national gun registration and confiscation by requiring every gun transaction to have a Brady Check.

* Supposed “toughening” of anti-gun trafficking measures, but without doing anything about the man responsible for allowing more gun trafficking than any other American -- Attorney General Eric Holder (with his Fast and Furious program).

Let us backtrack and explain a couple of things: Increasingly ATF is going into gun dealers and xeroxing all of the 4473’s. This is illegal under McClure-Volkmer, but, in case you hadn’t noticed, Obama is increasingly ignoring the law when it inconveniences him.

Thus, if every gun transaction in America must have a Brady Check, every gun in America could presumably be fed into a national registration system by ATF by simply copying the 4473’s.

New York Governor Andrew Cuomo -– a man who gives you a pretty good idea of where gun control is going -– said, on the front page of the New York Times, that “confiscation” of firearms is an option. Obviously, having a registration list makes such a task much easier.

But what about so-called large-capacity magazines? Well, Republicans like Georgia’s Phil Gingrey have talked about the possibility of banning them. However, there are many problems with this.

First of all, millions of gun owners own these magazines for defensive purposes. To take away a homeowner’s right to choose these devices will simply make honest citizens less safe -- especially, when they are facing multiple attackers.

Moreover, police have sometimes had to fire 20-30 rounds to finally stop just one drug-crazed individual from shooting. This just underscores why, quite often, good guys will need more than just six-shooters.

Second, there are tens of millions of high-capacity magazines in circulation. What are you going to do about them?

Third, changing magazines (or switching guns) is not a big deal for people like Adam Lanza.

Fourth -- and perhaps most important –- this is a game the anti-gun zealots have played before: They threaten to kill the Second Amendment, and then negotiate their way back to “merely” eviscerating it.

Or put another way, they threaten to shoot us in the head to get us to agree to cutting off our fingers.

The only way that America’s gun owners are going to have peace over the next decade is to stop ALL gun control -– as we did after Columbine –- and then defeat compromising legislators running for reelection in 2014.

ACTION: Click here to contact your Senators and Congressmen. Demand that they oppose ALL gun control -- including magazine limitations and universal background (registration) checks -- being proposed by the Biden commission.

[Cheerio]

House must start impeachment of both King Obama and Biden.

GOP - find your spine or be prepared to be relegated to the history books like the Whigs.

[manc]

I guarantee that gun owners in NY state and city voted for this dumb idiot and it is they who should give their guns up , not us.

They wanted this crap then they can live by it whilst those conservatives and decent gun owners get down here to VA, NC, FL, stop giving the socialist states your money to push their radical agenda.
Down here your votes will help and not be ignored, your money will go to freedom and not more laws and rules and where YOUR RIGHTS are taken away.

Homosexual marriage is ot a right, abortion is not a right, but freedom of religion and gun rights according to the 1st and 2nd are your rights.

We get our rights not from some special interest group but rights which have been there for hundreds of years.

Shall not be infringed, infringed means you don;t make it hard and ban certain weapons, or make ammo hard to get.

The courts needs to be cleansed, the media nerd to be addressed and can anyone tell me where THE HELL IS THE GOP, after their pathetic letter yesterday they did after the wanna be kinds speech to a loving adoring press, are they even called the press anymore?

[Gator113]

They should, but these cowards never will. Thier testicals have never dropped.

I do not know how this is going to end, but I am reasonably certain that we are not going to like the end result. I also believe that a good many hard working, honest law abiding patriots are about to become instant felons.

[Quickgun]

I’m not giving up anything I have either. I told one of my friends “I will have my guns as long as I am alive”

[manc]

see what they did after that arogant snotty speech yesterday?

They sat down and put out a letter, WTF is that about, get out there challenge the media, take on obama, take on thrse socialists taking our rights away and call for millions of people outside the white house like in Egypt.

Hell I;ll camp out there, millions of us out side, imagine the pictures around the world of this wanna be dictator being protested by millions and camping outsdie our house, not his.

[Quickgun]

Unless we have a much needed revolution and solve the problem for another 200 years

[SoldierDad]

There are an average of 537 deaths per DAY in America as a result of medical procedures (196,000 per year). WE MUST BAN THE FIELD OF MEDICINE!!!!!/s

[fuzzylogic]

As a naturalized citizen from England, it really p*ssed me off when Piers tossed aside, what he called, “your little book”. He’s so incredibly arrogant, doesn’t understand that he doesn’t understand the constitution. He doesn’t respect it. He’s fine with the 1st amendment, it allows him the freedom to speak his garbage - but he doesn’t seem to realize that the the 2nd amendment has equal weight, it is the means to enforce the 1st amendment.

I’m embarrassed by this guy. I don’t think he realizes how he looks to those outside of NY. Most Americans despise foreigners that come here and try to tell them how America “should be” - especially when they don’t respect (or know much about) the constitution and even more so coming from an Englishman. ...let’s just say I went through an awakening, I know the Piers Morgan’s of the world, I used to think like him.

[Drill Thrawl]

It will be the match that lights the fuse to begin a second civil war.

This is exactly what they want. For some strange reason, they think they will win.

[CottShop]

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And I’m sure mental health evaluatiosn will work it’s way i nthere as the vp discovers NY’ers did NOT stand up for hteir rights when NY violated them with their impossible gun laws

[Biggirl]

But this time around, they will lose this war, the red states will go their way.

[metmom]

I'll give up my guns when all politicians and elected officials give up their armed guards.

Deal?

[Georgia Girl 2]

“Incidentally, if you wanted to keep the AR-15 you currently have, you would have to have a 6-month FBI background check, be fingerprinted, and get a machine gun-type license. “

Yeh everybody will rush to register those “privately” purchased AR’s and AK’s. As far as the others well they all got sold mos ago to some guy at a gun show. Can’t remember his name.

[Renegade]

Ditto! They will get mine bullets first.I really don’t give a $hit who they are if they come after me .This crap needs to be stopped even if we have to shed our own blood in the process.

[Gandalf_The_Gray]

“What kind of clips will they be using?”

They won’t be using clips they will be using maga....Oh hell, I give up. Bigger fish to fry.

I've got most of my 5.56 NATO on "stripper clips", will that make it a porn violation?

Regards,
GtG

[Cheerio]

Hell I;ll camp out there, millions of us out side, imagine the pictures around the world of this wanna be dictator being protested by millions and camping outsdie our house, not his.

Hell, I would be there also. BUT I am afraid we would never muster up 1,000,000. The nation has gone over the tipping point with the clown's reelection by the "low information voters" and more takers than makers with their snouts in the public trough.

"A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the majority discovers it can vote itself largesse out of the public treasury. After that, the majority always votes for the candidate promising the most benefits with the result the democracy collapses because of the loose fiscal policy ensuing, always to be followed by a dictatorship, then a monarchy."

[444Flyer]

There are an average of 537 deaths per DAY in America as a result of medical procedures (196,000 per year). WE MUST BAN THE FIELD OF MEDICINE!!!!!/s

Good point. I have been injured twice by people 'treating' me in a medical facility. I also suffered what could have been a life threatening staph infection most likely picked up through sloppy prepping of my arm for a routine immunization, then suffered a severe allergic reaction resulting from the antibiotic prescribed to treat it.

I have never been threatened by a firearm nor harmed, nor has anyone in my family or any friends. Ever. But millions of babies are threatened now every day under the Obamacare mandates for abortion.

[BuckeyeTexan]

A bit of levity ...

I’ll just never forget the MSM interview of a small-town Texas Sheriff back when the Brady Bill was being debated. They set him up to look like a big, dumb hick in his ten-gallon hat and bolo tie with his boots kicked up on his desk. When the reporter asked him how gun control would make his job easier, he drawled “We ain’t got no gun problem down here. Last guy kilt ‘round yere was beat-ta-death with a rock!”

P.R.I.C.E.L.E.S.S.

[Bloody Sam Roberts]

I can only recall one case where the ATF went into a gunshop in Arizona and asked to get copies of the Forms 4473 from a new employee. More experienced people at the gun store told the ATF to go get effed.

I hope you are right. I read the line you quoted and seriously could not envision any dealer I use allowing access to the 4473s in their possession. If you and I are wrong then we are very much screwed.

[Theodore R.]

Biden could yet be the 45th president; people in DE will be thrilled.