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Biden: W.H. readies 19 executive actions on guns
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Posted on 01/14/2013 5:10:08 PM PST by Sub-Driver

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To: Orangedog

So Obama’s better? because the GOP will stand up and stop him?

Thats the story, right?


441 posted on 01/15/2013 1:12:07 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Money quote from Rush today, 1-15-2013 -

“Nineteen executive orders to deal with something they are not permitted to deal with, in a way they’re not permitted to do it. But if nobody is willing to stand up and oppose the president and this usurpation of power — which does not exist and which he does not have — then, of course, he will get away with it.” - Rush Limbaugh


442 posted on 01/15/2013 1:27:51 PM PST by servo1969
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To: driftdiver

“Well lets see, there are two viable candidates in the election. You say you’re not voting for obama but you’re also not supporting Romney due to your “principles”.”

Please show in detail where the law obligates us to “Two viable candidates”. Do not dodge or make excuses. If you are going to assert in public that we have to vote for one of two ‘viable candidates’, please have the decency to show the rule/law commanding me to do so.

“If you don’t vote for Romney then its helping Obama. How is that effectively different than a boycott?”

This has exactly nothing to do with anything ans is pure opinion. Please show anything in hard data, other than your opinion which is just an opinion, that says voting for one or no candidates adds to the vote tally of another.

5 year olds know that is not true. People over 5 know that it makes them look foolish. You have no excuse.

“yes I think you’re a fool. You’ve been refuted numerous times but are so prideful that you refuse to open your eyes.”

You also think electing unprincipled liberals in the GOP is a wise choice. Others think unicorns poop skittles. Neither can make rational arguments to support their positions.

“You are putting yourself above your nation and for that I will turn the ovens up extra hot for you.”

I just have to wonder if any Jewish readers think your repeated references to gassing me in an oven bolster your argument.

Please, for their benefit, and the benefit of others, explain in detail, the logic of burning someone in an oven when you can’t best them in debate on issues or articulate your position with actual facts.


443 posted on 01/15/2013 1:34:03 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: Norm Lenhart

“Please show in detail where the law obligates us to “Two viable candidates”. Do not dodge or make excuses. If you are going to assert in public that we have to vote for one of two ‘viable candidates’, please have the decency to show the rule/law commanding me to do so.”

The law doesn’t limit it, reality does. Name a third party candidate who has ever come close to winning a presidential election? Just one skippy.

“This has exactly nothing to do with anything ans is pure opinion”

Not its elementary mathematics. Whoever gets the most votes wins.

I don’t care what Jewish voters think. Most of them supported Obama but at least they were honest in their stupidity.

Obama has ties to the muslims who in turn have ties to nazi’s all the way back to WWII.

THAT is who you chose to support.


444 posted on 01/15/2013 1:38:18 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver

And once again, not a single point addressed and not a single question answered. No wonder you brag about supporting liberals.

Thank you for again making my point.


445 posted on 01/15/2013 1:43:27 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: Neoliberalnot
Well, you can stick to your I-GIVE-UP mantra, and We the People will stick to ours. We the People WILL fight, while you lay down and give it up to obozo. Your negative commentary is not positive reinforcement, it is defeatist talk.

We on FR want to win this fight...you're on the wrong site if you want to preach defeatism.

446 posted on 01/15/2013 1:51:25 PM PST by itssme
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To: itssme
Correction: Texas Representative Steve Stockman is the name of the man who has the fire in his belly and love for his country and the Constitution, and who has warned oboma that he will file charges of treason against him if he moves to apply executive order to his list of plans for gun control.

TEXAS REPRESENTATIVE STEVE STOCKMAN IS THE NAME TO REMEMBER: CALL YOUR POLITICIANS AND TELL THEM TO GET ON THE BANDWAGON AND PROTECT THE CONSTITUTION AND OUR RIGHTS AND JOIN FORCES WITH REP. STOCKMAN AND DO THEIR JOB, GET SOME BALLS AND DEVELOP SOME BACKBONE AND FIRE IN THEIR BELLIES TO DO WHAT THEY MUST.

447 posted on 01/15/2013 2:03:38 PM PST by itssme
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To: Orangedog

I’m not carrying anybody’s water, least of all Romney’s. But anyone that does not see or admit that even Romney would have been better for America than Obama has been and now will be, now that he has nothing holding him back...

just isn’t very damned bright.


448 posted on 01/15/2013 2:17:41 PM PST by XenaLee (The only good commie is a dead commie.)
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To: Neoliberalnot

Why do people like you allow the so called “conservatives” representing us, to cover and cave when they should stand up and fight for the people that elected them. If anything we should be holding these representative’s feet to the fire more than the democrats as we voted for these people and we expect them to represent us, not just cower in fear of our enemy.


449 posted on 01/15/2013 2:19:00 PM PST by Blue Highway
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To: itssme

I am just saying that approach will not work. Attempting to gain advantage using a thoroughly corrupt system is not the solution. The solution is physical confrontation and action outside the realm of political games as usual.


450 posted on 01/15/2013 2:35:48 PM PST by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed.)
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To: Blue Highway

I am just saying that approach will not work. Attempting to gain advantage using a thoroughly corrupt system is not the solution. The solution is physical confrontation and action outside the realm of political games as usual.


451 posted on 01/15/2013 2:37:27 PM PST by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed.)
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To: driftdiver
So Obama’s better?

Better?! I'm still waiting for someone to show me any real difference between the two.

452 posted on 01/15/2013 4:14:54 PM PST by Orangedog (An optimist is someone who tells you to 'cheer up' when things are going his way)
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To: Lakeshark

Yeah...thanks for those outstanding republicans in the House and John CryBaby Boehner your ilk gave us. Who the heck is the fool....

Fool me once shame on you...
Fool me twice shame on me...

It took a long time to get to this point and all along the way there were folks warning your ilk regarding the consequences of your win the election at any cost politics. You chose not to listen and we ended up with a weakkneed BS representatives who would rather trade our freedoms away behind closed doors. Useful idiots is what your ilk should be called...

We didn’t give you anything. And as harsh as it may sound to your ears, over the decades you have been little more than a low information voter. It was your ilk’s vote that gave us the inability to fight this.

The republicans you voted into office won’t be rising to any occassion anytime soon. You got the government you deserved and the rest of us suffer for the sake of your politics.


453 posted on 01/15/2013 4:15:47 PM PST by EBH ( The 2nd Amendment exists for times like this.)
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To: Orangedog

Well considering what Obama did today I’d say you need to show what would be worse.

Or just admit you’re a damn fool.


454 posted on 01/15/2013 4:18:32 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: EBH; Lakeshark

“Yeah...thanks for those outstanding republicans in the House and John CryBaby Boehner your ilk gave us. Who the heck is the fool..”

And what are you doing to change it? Voting for Ron Paul?

BWAHAHAHAHAAAA

Our nation burns and you are talking theories and could have beens.


455 posted on 01/15/2013 4:20:54 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver

No theories, no could have beens...

Sadly pointing out that the tactic that has been taken over and over has resulted in failure of our Nation.

That is the sad reality whether you want to believe it or not.


456 posted on 01/15/2013 4:32:36 PM PST by EBH ( The 2nd Amendment exists for times like this.)
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To: XenaLee

“Deadly assault weapons have no place in Massachusetts. These guns are not made for recreation or self-defense. They are instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people.” - mitt romney’s signing statement on the bill he signed into law in 2004 permanently banning many semi auto firearms.

If you want to cling to some fantasy that the man who wrote that and attached it to a permanent gun ban would not be working with feinstein and palosi on another gun ban right now had he won, you’re entitled to do so. Just don’t go busting my chops for paying attention to the man’s track record.


457 posted on 01/15/2013 4:32:51 PM PST by Orangedog (An optimist is someone who tells you to 'cheer up' when things are going his way)
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To: EBH

That ‘tactic’ resulted in Reagan.

Your tactic resulted in another 4 years of Obama.


458 posted on 01/15/2013 4:40:44 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver

Worse, better...still waiting any real difference before assigning that kind of value judgement.


459 posted on 01/15/2013 4:44:12 PM PST by Orangedog (An optimist is someone who tells you to 'cheer up' when things are going his way)
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To: tomkat
Hello,

Until and if (and it is a very big IF) we can put aside our differences and come together to stand up for what is coming, we have no chance.

That's it, short and sweet. The last election is over, our futures stand before us. Our individual decisions will determine the outcome.

MOgirl

460 posted on 01/15/2013 4:57:41 PM PST by MOgirl (STAND)
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