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Britain can no long afford to pay the extortionate cost of the welfare state
Daily Mail (UK) ^ | 20:12 EST, 12 January 2013 | Peter Hitchens

Posted on 01/13/2013 6:54:56 PM PST by Olog-hai

Britain cannot possibly afford its welfare state for much longer. Most people do not realize that state handouts (£207 billion [$334 billion] a year) mop up every penny we pay in income tax (£155 billion [$250 billion] a year). Everything else, the NHS, schools, transport, police, defense, interest on the debt (nearly £50 billion [$80.7 billion] a year, by the way) must be paid for by other taxes, including the vast sums raked in by so-called “National Insurance”, or by more borrowing.

As we are more or less bankrupt as a country, such generosity is not noble, but plain idiotic. Yet we will not stop doing it. Change is politically impossible. …

The very idea that people should provide for themselves has become a horrible heresy, a barbaric view that no civilized person can hold. We’ll see. My own guess is that a hurricane of inflation will, over the next ten years, rip the welfare state up by the roots and leave us impoverished, diminished and baffled, wondering what happened to us. …

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TOPICS: Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: guncontrol; secondamendment; welfarestate

1 posted on 01/13/2013 6:55:02 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

Silly Brits, everyone knows the answer to a borrowing and spending problem is more borrowing and spending! Maybe you guys can mint a trillion pound coin, like our geniuses are pondering doing here.


2 posted on 01/13/2013 6:56:48 PM PST by Tea Party Terrorist (Those who work for a living are now outnumbered by those who vote for a living.)
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To: Olog-hai

Hell, we’re a half-step behind them. The two world superpowers....at different times in their history....reduced to this.

All because of leftist idiots, their leftist media sycophants, and drooling moochers in society who lack two brain cells to rub together.


3 posted on 01/13/2013 7:02:39 PM PST by RightOnline (I am Andrew Breitbart!)
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To: Olog-hai

We’ve been saying “I told you so!” for decades now.

Unfortunately, we will suffer as a result as well.


4 posted on 01/13/2013 7:03:47 PM PST by Shadow44
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To: Olog-hai
My own guess is that a hurricane of inflation will, over the next ten years, rip the welfare state up by the roots and leave us impoverished, diminished and baffled, wondering what happened to us.

My guess too

And what comes after that?

5 posted on 01/13/2013 7:07:27 PM PST by PGR88
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To: RightOnline
Hell, we’re a half-step behind them.

Barely.
The African communist scumbag Ubama is doing all he can to catch up.

6 posted on 01/13/2013 7:10:47 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Olog-hai

If this continues as it seems it will England will become an impoverished, desolate and desperate place. The riots it suffered last year will become the norm and be much worse as those who were accustomed to being given what they wanted will take what they want with brutality and force. It’s a nightmare scenario a small island nation with a dis-armed populace will be hard-pressed to survive, let alone prevent. And there is only so far you can run from this kind of an outcome on an island such as Britain is.


7 posted on 01/13/2013 7:13:03 PM PST by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: Olog-hai
The very idea that people should provide for themselves has become a horrible heresy, a barbaric view that no civilized person can hold.

HOW TRUE!

8 posted on 01/13/2013 7:14:24 PM PST by randita
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To: Olog-hai

The UK is about to get into a fight with a Thrid World nation. A rematch.

And lose.

That will have political implications most cannot fathom...


9 posted on 01/13/2013 7:16:57 PM PST by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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To: PGR88
And what comes after that?

Who knows. Civil war maybe?

10 posted on 01/13/2013 7:27:53 PM PST by Mark17 (California, where English is a foreign language)
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To: Olog-hai

Tax the rich!

Dems here say that will pay for everything.


11 posted on 01/13/2013 7:29:58 PM PST by sickoflibs (Losing to O is NO principle!)
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To: PGR88
And what comes after that?

The absolutely merciless correction. A maintenance determination phase in which lampposts are weight tested to determine if they need replacement.

12 posted on 01/13/2013 7:31:09 PM PST by 17th Miss Regt
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To: piytar

Which one, Argentina?
Argentina’s military is in worse shape than the first time And hardly at all more modern.
The British already maintain sufficient forces in the Falklands to keep the Argentine Navy in port.


13 posted on 01/13/2013 7:31:50 PM PST by buwaya
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To: Olog-hai

Lady Thatcher was right. The nanny state eventually runs out of OTHER PEOPLE’S MONEY. It’s going to be a real hoot when Barry and the ‘RATS turn that 30 million illegal aliens into U.S. citizens with their under the cover of darkness amnesty plan. I’m seeing nothing but hard times ahead for Americans.


14 posted on 01/13/2013 7:46:01 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (HealthCare IS NOT a right. The RIGHT to keep and bear arms is.)
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To: Olog-hai

I’ve generally enjoyed Peter H’s writing a lot more than I did those of his late brother Christopher.


15 posted on 01/13/2013 7:56:07 PM PST by Attention Surplus Disorder (This stuff we're going through now, this is nothing compared to the middle ages.)
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To: Olog-hai

Interesting line towards the bottom of the page:

“Sorry we are unable to accept comments for legal reasons.”


16 posted on 01/13/2013 8:05:10 PM PST by chrisser (Senseless legislation does nothing to solve senseless violence.)
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To: RightOnline
Yes, sir!

The mooches can only survive as long as the productive are working to pay for the mooching.

Once the mooches kill the golden goose, guess what happens?

No more mooching, and you can burn all the cars and houses you want, but it will make the mooching even harder.

Maybe they can whip the grocer to give them food, but the grocer will at some point refuse to be whipped any more.

17 posted on 01/13/2013 8:11:09 PM PST by boop ("You don't look so bad, here's another")
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To: Olog-hai

They invented the welfare state back with the original Queen Elizabeth!


18 posted on 01/13/2013 8:36:30 PM PST by freeagle
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To: FlingWingFlyer
"30 million illegal aliens"

Let them join and then tax the sh!t out of them. If they stay - that's money in the bank, if they go - bye bye.

19 posted on 01/13/2013 8:38:09 PM PST by I am Richard Brandon
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To: PGR88

Greece, if they’re lucky.


20 posted on 01/13/2013 8:53:16 PM PST by Trod Upon (Civilian disarmament is the precursor to democide.)
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To: PGR88
Bingo.

If you haven't already done so, GTF out of the cities and interior 'burbs and away from public transportation lines. Distance will be a friend when the wheels fall off the gravy train.

21 posted on 01/13/2013 9:03:08 PM PST by Sgt_Schultze (A half-truth is a complete lie)
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To: I am Richard Brandon

I’ve thought for a long time about a tax on illegals. A nice Catch-22, but it will never even get considered. A $5,000/head yearly tax to help defray the cost to citizens and legal residents. I bet the IRS would be lots more effective than the INS in getting illegals to self-deport.


22 posted on 01/13/2013 9:16:19 PM PST by VanShuyten ("a shadow...draped nobly in the folds of a gorgeous eloquence.")
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To: All
Maggie's best quote...


23 posted on 01/13/2013 11:00:04 PM PST by az_gila
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To: Olog-hai
Wot? No inexhaustible riches of Other People's Money?

Someone send a memo to Washington.

24 posted on 01/14/2013 2:11:35 AM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: freeagle
They invented the welfare state back with the original Queen Elizabeth!

Actually, the Elizabethan poor laws were on a different model from the U.S. welfare system completely.

At the turn of the century there were three competing social-welfarist models. I forget what the Catholic model was, but the Protestant/Elizabethan model was the poorhouse or workhouse where housing and work were under the same roof, all administered under contract by a private party (which Dickens attacked for its parsimoniousness and brutality to the internees).

The Jewish model, that the U.S. settled on (because of the Jewish influence in urban-ethnic machine politics on the East Coast), was direct cash subsidies to a widow. That worked fine in the Jewish community because the widow was enmeshed in a strong social and moral structure. The general population was not, with the result that numerous abuses that we all know grew up around the U.S. social-welfare model.

25 posted on 01/14/2013 2:20:13 AM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: Olog-hai
I wish them luck with austerity...


26 posted on 01/14/2013 3:52:54 AM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Olog-hai

Oh dear, they’ll be storming the palace shortly.


27 posted on 01/14/2013 4:59:13 AM PST by FES0844
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To: Tea Party Terrorist

That, and Pelosi’s brilliant thesis that paying people not to work positively stimulates the economy.


28 posted on 01/14/2013 1:28:31 PM PST by lormand (A Government who robs Peter to pay Paul, will always have the support of Paul)
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