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Low-Info Voters Just Not Interested In Politics
Irish Examiner ^ | Tuesday, January 8, 2013 | Alicia Colon

Posted on 01/13/2013 1:34:19 PM PST by upchuck

Conservatives simply have no one in the media that has any credibility with the ill-informed masses. It does not have Ronald Reagan waiting in the winds to blast these frauds and hypocrites for the outrages against decent, hard-working Americans.

How many times have you tried to have a serious conversation about current events only to have your listeners say, "I'm not interested in politics"? These are the low-info voters that the Republicans have never been able to communicate with but the Democrats know exactly how to reach them. That is why they concentrate their connections in the mainstream media and Hollywood and why these voters know more about the Kardashians than what the fiscal cliff means to the economy or where Benghazi is. It's also why these voters tune out boring Republicans who continue to blah, blah, blah about serious stuff. The sad reality is that these voters can be manipulated easily and if the Republicans ever want to win important elections they need to learn the right way to get their message across.

Right now they are clueless. Consequently they have allowed the Democrats to hijack and distort the GOP's positions on virtually every issue. Republicans, therefore, don't care about the middle class and only want to reduce the taxes of the rich. They are also racists who want to keep minorities down. These distortions are repeated often by anchors on MSNBC and the alphabet networks. CNN is always on in the social service offices and in airports and the formerly legitimate cable station is so far on the decline that it feels comfortable allowing disgusting antics by amoral hosts on its New Year's Eve broadcast.

But it is folly to assume that all the low-info voters are poorly educated or on the dole. College students and graduates of liberal academia have been completely indoctrinated in leftist ideology and loathe all things conservative. Their bibles include the New York Times, the Washington Post and the Los Angeles Times which routinely carry and affirm the Democrat lies.

Hollywood trots out alarming films on climate change, environmental doom and the racist doings of evil white men. Stars like Matt Damon, Leonardo DiCaprio, Samuel Jackson, Jamie Foxx, and Morgan Freeman use their talents to shill for the administration and the Democrats. The hypocrites that filmed that anti-gun ad calling for action following the Sandy Hook school massacre blithely ignore their participation in films glamorizing a violent gun culture. Democrats called for the ban on all assault weapons with some leftist reporter asking if we really needed such a weapon to kill an animal.

Couldn't one conservative politician, inform the low-info public that the second amendment has nothing to do with hunting? This amendment was put there by the Founding Fathers who were themselves revolutionaries and knew that it stood for freedom. The first Americans forbidden to own guns were blacks and that was because they were slaves. Every dictatorship immediately disarms its populace which ultimately takes away their freedom to protect themselves against an oppressive government.

Conservatives simply have no one in the media that has any credibility with the ill-informed masses. It does not have Ronald Reagan waiting in the winds to blast these frauds and hypocrites for the outrages against decent, hard-working Americans.

There's no leader in the party that will point out that these gun massacres take place in gun-free zones in states with the strongest gun control laws in place and that it is leftwing ideology that creates sitting ducks for the criminally insane. Low-info voters do not watch the Fox News programs that present those facts nor do they get their news from conservative blogs on the Internet. Facebook and Twitter are the current modes of communication but then there are also Tango, Kik Messenger, Voxer and a dozen more communication apps being created every day. The only reason I know about these innovations is because I have my six young adult children clueing me in on all things 21st century.

One would think that these misinformed voters would be skeptical of promises made by politicians during an election year but unfortunately brains not used to exercise fail to notice the routine con jobs. So they reelected a president and a Congress that insisted that the fiscal cliff bill would protect them and increase the taxes on the wealthy. The latest news is that workers making $30,000 will take a bigger hit on their pay than those earning $500,000 under the new fiscal deal.

All this year during the presidential campaign, the GOP allowed the Obama campaign to get away with that tax the rich mantra which is all the low-info voters heard. A Ronald Reagan would have said, "There you go again. Telling lies when you know that the only hope for the middle class and the poor is jobs. We're the only ones who care about them while you're the ones creating a country of dependents by punishing the job creators. You distract the voters by using the race card when it has always been the Democrats with the worst race record and the Republicans with the best civil rights record. Yet MSNBC has Al Sharpton saying just the opposite and that's who the low-info voters listen to. Sharpton claimed on his show that it was democrats who supported civil rights but actually more Republicans supported the bill. The KKK was founded by the Democrats and it was the Democrats that put Martin Luther King in jail. Facts don't matter, however, to low-info voters who rarely seek out the truth."

So how do the Republicans meet this challenge to disseminate the truth? From the looks of the recent shenanigans over the fiscal cliff "crisis" they are still clueless. The reelection of Boehner as Speaker of the House proves that they are not serious about change. I had hoped that there would be a real rebellion by the tea party representatives but alas only nine broke ranks and voted for an alternate. Two idealists Reps. Paul Broun (R-Ga.) and Louie Gohmert (R-Texas) even voted for former Rep. Allen West who was robbed of his Florida seat by ill-concealed voter fraud. What a perfect choice he would have been-a fearless speaker not afraid to speak the truth.

On the Senate side, Marco Rubio and Rand Paul were two of five Republicans who voted against the fiscal cliff compromise. Sen. Rubio is a rising star and possible presidential candidate in 2016. If he remains this adamant about voting his conservative conscience, he'll be an excellent choice especially if the GOP can recover the Senate in 2014.

Odds are that won't happen unless the Republicans can find an articulate spokesperson for the party's principles. There are plenty of conservative minorities, naturalized legal immigrants, and refugees who are supremely interested in politics and who appreciate and will defend our Constitution. Most are registered as Republicans but are unlikely to be sought out by the establishment of the GOP. When it comes to who makes up the base of the party, the GOP establishment is as low-info as those who voted for Obama.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: dopeydems

1 posted on 01/13/2013 1:34:23 PM PST by upchuck
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To: upchuck

Low-info voters will be a GREAT deal more interested in politics once hard tyranny sinks in, loss of individual property rights becomes the order of the day.


2 posted on 01/13/2013 1:42:07 PM PST by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: upchuck

Low and no info voters have ZERO business voting.


3 posted on 01/13/2013 1:47:04 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: upchuck

The thing about Low-Info Voters is that you can lie to them. You can lie constantly to them and you don’t even have to be consistent. In fact, they demand to be lied to.

Just stand up and say what they want to hear. They want birth control pills. Tell them, “Hell yeah! We’re giving FREE birth control and we’ll deliver it like freakin’ pizza!!” They want their student loans forgiven. “If you elect ME, I’ll forgive your student loans AND your Visa debt. I Loooove you guys and I will let you all be on my cabinet!”

They’re stupid. They’ll buy it. They are trained by college professors to believe anything. The only thing they question is something they don’t already believe.

The problem on the Right with talking to the LIV is that we listen to our candidates. If one of our candidates goes to a college and lies to a herd of stupid, slack-jawed young “adults”, we get mad because “he’s a RINO!!” and we abandon him.

Perhaps we need a signal, like the finger alongside the nose in “The Sting”, so he can lie to the LIVs all day long. Since we’re in on the con, we can just smile and let them go.

The bottom line is that the LIV is a sheep, waiting to be sheared or turned into mutton. The Left is good at herding them and the Right just chases after the strays.


4 posted on 01/13/2013 1:49:19 PM PST by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: upchuck

Brainwashing through years of Public Schools and dumbing down by TV—destroys Wisdom and Common Sense.

Schools insert “emotionalism” into the curricula-—to destroy the intellect-—they CAN’T “think” when they reach 18—and it gets worse if they go through the reeducation camps at universities where Common Sense is beat out of them.

They learn in universities—the Marxist/John Austin irrational thinking-—like sodomy is good and killing babies is a “right”—all the Margaret Sanger—Paul Ehrlich/Malthusian ideologies-—to destroy Reason and Wisdom of John Locke, Blackstone and the Founding Fathers.

We have to reclaim the minds of young children which is being corrupted by “Sex Ed” (created by Lukacs and cultural Marxists to destroy Virtue and corrupt little children).

People have to realize that “public education” is destroying Reason and Common Sense (Natural Law Theory and Christianity is the underlying principle of our Constitution and Rule of Law).

Schools are killing the Christian God and Natural Law Theory. Teaching sodomy is “good” throws out the Laws of Nature and the teleological aspect of human nature!!! Don’t allow media and schools to warp the sexual formation of young children to conform with little sodomized Afghani boys!!!) It is totally transforming our Nation to a muslim/occult/pagan evil one.

Virtue is necessary for a Free Republic. All Western Civ since Socrates knew this.....esp. the Founding Fathers!!! Cultural Marxists who write curricula (billy ayers-type) for public schools and universities are intentionally killing Virtue in little children. They are corrupting all the children on purpose. They know—you collapse Civil Society when you destroy Public Virtue. All TV shows promote evil behaviors in children, too.


5 posted on 01/13/2013 1:50:00 PM PST by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: upchuck

I don’t want low information voters voting.

Voting should be harder so the lazy voters can stay home as well.


6 posted on 01/13/2013 1:54:28 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: C210N

To paraphrase Trotsky, you may not be interested in politics, but politics is interested in you.


7 posted on 01/13/2013 1:55:21 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: upchuck

Low info voters like we made them that way by keeping important issues form them. Low info voters, we would be better of if we let the farm animals vote next time they know more


8 posted on 01/13/2013 2:05:19 PM PST by ronnie raygun ( Lexington / Concord, America's first gun grab attempt)
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To: C210N

LIV’s will also become more interested if/when the free stuff goes bye-bye. But their interest at that point may not be of the constructive kind.


9 posted on 01/13/2013 2:08:36 PM PST by randita
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To: upchuck

Not to be argumentative but, a spokesperson will do little good. The problem is that the media (including hollyweird) will tear apart everything they say while giving the Dims a free pass, and worse, making their argument for them. Until and unless we get a venue that the low information voter listens to/watches that will tell the truth we are lost. Our REAL enemy is the media!


10 posted on 01/13/2013 2:12:38 PM PST by mistfree (Their & There, they're not the same)
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To: upchuck

When will americanss realize that without God there can be no America?
The bad guys are winning, and who is there to care?


11 posted on 01/13/2013 2:15:14 PM PST by Paperdoll
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To: fieldmarshaldj
Low and no info voters have ZERO business voting.

Amen to that. Bring back property ownership requirements and literacy or basic citizenship-style tests.

12 posted on 01/13/2013 2:27:56 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: ronnie raygun

Animal Farm


13 posted on 01/13/2013 2:44:49 PM PST by AirForce-TechSgt ("The American Indians found out what happens when you don't control immigration.")
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To: upchuck

But these idiots vote and usually for the socialists.


14 posted on 01/13/2013 2:46:18 PM PST by Signalman
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To: upchuck

I don’t blame them. I’m a high-information voter and I’m about done with it myself.


15 posted on 01/13/2013 2:49:27 PM PST by perfect_rovian_storm
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To: Joe 6-pack
Trotsky? Oh yes, that's right; the POS Commie who got an ice pick in the head. Now I remember.
16 posted on 01/13/2013 2:51:36 PM PST by Artcore
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To: upchuck

LIV’s aren’t stupid: they’re bribed (by govt- handouts).


17 posted on 01/13/2013 2:55:27 PM PST by 4Liberty (Some on our "Roads & Bridges" head to the beach. Others head to their offices, farms, libraries....)
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To: upchuck

The media and other low lifes hate principles,the media is the real problem.


18 posted on 01/13/2013 3:12:42 PM PST by Vaduz
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To: upchuck

Low-informed or ill-informed voters are the biggest threat to freedom and liberty-loving people. My two youngest brothers, my Dad and my one younger sister are in this category and though they’re family I don’t have much to do with them. They and those who vote as they do(Democrats) are destroying America.


19 posted on 01/13/2013 3:13:46 PM PST by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: upchuck

From the Irish Examiner? They speak American in Irishland? Wow. What a small world.


20 posted on 01/13/2013 4:38:11 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: upchuck

Low info voters are very easy to reach, problem is GOP caters to Wall Street and multi national corporations. LIV everyday see their neighbors lose jobs as plants close to free trade and WTO. LIV everyday see their neighbors take pay cuts as CEO’s and exec get pay increases and bonuses. LIV everyday see their factories close and move to China. LIV everyday see foreign workers come in and take over their high tech jobs and tech transfers to China leading to factory closures. LIV see this everyday and the GOP keeps telling them that Wall Street bankers and CEO’s are patriots/angels and everyone in gov is the devil. If you are on your 99th week of unemployment and the Dems offer extension and GOP offers cutoff, who would you vote for? Gov regs force businesses to move and close is the mantra. LIV agree, but the GOP solution of less regs is even crazier. Banking crisis which lead to the global meltdown caused by US liar loans and toxic mortgage backed securities sold worldwide was caused by SEC/UST inability to enforce existing regs and laws because big Wall Street bankers are treated more like celebrities then citizens of this country. Solve this bread and butter issue and many blue collar Dems will return to the GOP like they did for Reagan. Less taxes and leaving the criminal bankers scott free to repeat the crime in the future does not cut it.


21 posted on 01/13/2013 4:39:59 PM PST by Fee
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To: upchuck

I have another name for “low information” voters. Busy. Really in a world where tax freedom day is mid April, threatening to move into May who the hell has the time to pay attention to whiny politicians arguing with each other about which one gets to screw up our lives for the next couple of years. It’s a wonder anybody bothers to pay attention, it’s not like either party is presenting any solutions, heck they barely present any differences in how they’ll add problems. When one party sends up a guy that foisted a bad socialized medicine law on his state to go against the other party’s guy that foisted a basically identical bad socialized medicine law on the country why should anybody bother to be a high information voter?

Which thus presents the answer. If you want voters to be better informed run candidates worth learning about, present positions that might actually solve problems, and get tax freedom day before spring so maybe the people have a little time to pay attention.


22 posted on 01/13/2013 4:46:12 PM PST by discostu (I recommend a fifth of Jack and a bottle of Prozac)
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To: upchuck

bump


23 posted on 01/13/2013 4:49:19 PM PST by gibsosa
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To: C210N

Naw, they just want their free stuff...


24 posted on 01/13/2013 4:50:09 PM PST by snoringbear (E.oGovernment is the Pimp,)
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To: upchuck
"Politics is downstream from popular culture"
-- Andrew Breitbart
25 posted on 01/13/2013 4:51:51 PM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
Low and no info voters have ZERO business voting.
Amen to that. Bring back property ownership requirements and literacy or basic citizenship-style tests.

Property ownership stopped being an indicator of anything meaningful decades ago.
Rather, passing a simple test, similar to an abbreviated citizenship test, and evidence that the individual actually pays net income taxes (taxes paid exceed non-contributory government benefits,) or forget your "right" to vote. Earn it or stay home!

Plus nationwide voter ID and automatic severe penalties for voter fraud.

26 posted on 01/13/2013 5:02:56 PM PST by publius911 (Look for the Union Label -- then buy something else)
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To: C210N

... but then it’s too late.


27 posted on 01/13/2013 5:04:42 PM PST by BunnySlippers (Yes, they have. Don't you read?I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: BunnySlippers

The only way to eliminate LIV’s is to change the two institutions have that have and have had so much sway over them ..the schools and the media. Until we reclaim them, we can hang it up.

Something my daughter used to tell me — when she was in college as the editor of the newspaper — was that while the Democrats were active on campus and were readily available to provide support or answer questions, the Republicans simply didn’t show up — didn’t even TRY with the student population. Perhaps our side just needs to start “showing up” more — on campuses, in schools, at school board meetings, etc.

What IS our presence in these areas? Democrats have simply been OPERATIVE in these areas, for a very, very long time. They have created partnerships with corporations (i.e, Scholastic books) for example ....and thus have been able to punch out literally drivel and other half baked ideas and made it available to the masses for consumption.

MOST parents are good and want the best for their kids ...but the “best” isn’t available.

As for the media, I think it’s about generating media alternatives ... re-educating people on the trule role of the press. ANd just turning off the TV, starving the beast, etc.

I think we need to start with analyzing which messages they are getting, and from WHERE/WHOM they are getting them, and either provide a balance and a CHOICE or an alternative. Maybe we just aren’t providing enough of an alternative.


28 posted on 01/13/2013 5:44:12 PM PST by LibsRJerks
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To: Vaduz
"""""The media and other low lifes hate principles,the media is the real problem.""""

And who created this leftist media? That's right Public Education

29 posted on 01/13/2013 5:48:03 PM PST by Constitution 123
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To: savagesusie

“you collapse Civil Society when you destroy Public Virtue”

BINGO!


30 posted on 01/13/2013 6:20:02 PM PST by adriennemarie
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To: C210N

“Low-info voters will be a GREAT deal more interested in politics once hard tyranny sinks in, loss of individual property rights becomes the order of the day.”

Im afraid your mistaken, the left will blame theses losses on the right and the low-info voters will buy it just as they bought every other lie the left sold them.

We either find a way to commucate with them or we die by the apathetic ignorance act of their hand.


31 posted on 01/13/2013 9:22:51 PM PST by Monorprise
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To: fieldmarshaldj

“Low and no info voters have ZERO business voting.”

I agree, if your not going to seriously study the situation and canadits, your going to do more harm than good.


32 posted on 01/13/2013 9:25:56 PM PST by Monorprise
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To: jmacusa

“Low-informed or ill-informed voters are the biggest threat to freedom and liberty-loving people. My two youngest brothers, my Dad and my one younger sister are in this category and though they’re family I don’t have much to do with them. They and those who vote as they do(Democrats) are destroying America.”

Your going to need to talk to them about this if they really are family.

That being said, people like this have always existed and always will exist. This is precisely why real Democracy’s as apposed to constitutionally finite Republics destroy themselves and oppress their people.

The large share of the population will either be easy fooled out of disinterest and/or preoccupation or they will be corrupted by the bribe of the politician. This happens every time, thou out history.

Our own public education system is not helping matters because the large bulk of the information theses low-info voters do have is generally derived from what little they learned in school.

But the underlining point is most everyone is going to fall for a scam when they never bothers to read the fine print. Unforutnatly it is the reality of life that only a minority of our population has the time or interest to read all the fine print that is now required in the maintenance of the currently massively complex government.


33 posted on 01/13/2013 9:34:49 PM PST by Monorprise
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To: Monorprise
The heart-breaking thing is that my three younger siblings refuse to hear any discussion about their politics at all. I'm forbidden to talk about politics at any family gathering. In every sense of the word my ‘’liberal’’ siblings are like the National Socialists were in Germany.They refuse to allow any difference of opinion and believe big government is the answer to everything. My father, a widower in his mid-eighties and not in the best of health can't be spoken to at all about such matters. My fathers greatest political hero is Fransisco Franco, and my father has proudly said all his life he is a fascist. He votes Democrat because the Democrat Party in America is closet to fascism.Only my two older brothers(I'm from a family of 7 kids) are conservatives but they too hold their tongues. I refuse to and whenever I can I deliberately start arguments with them because I hate their politics, their politics are destroying America and I'm beginning to hate them. My youngest brother is an absolute pugnacious leftie and he and I haven't spoken since our mother died seven years ago today. My youngest sister has no interest in politics and stays out of such discussions. If this were 1861 America or 1936 Spain we'd be shooting at each other for sure.
34 posted on 01/13/2013 10:00:06 PM PST by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

There are conservative people who are low or no info voters. They don’t read the papers, or have TVs. They go to work every day and are not bothered by “politics.” They do have friends and they will listen to those friends when they present a principled argument for a candidate. As long as we keep pretending the low and no info voters are the same as Obama’s zombies, we will miss out on an opportunity to bring more naturally conservative, principled voters to the polls.


35 posted on 01/14/2013 1:10:24 AM PST by Waryone
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To: Monorprise

well, it might take some time, but they’ll come around, as evidenced by history.

Poland: about 46 years.
Czechoslovakia: started to wake up to the music after 23 years, but went back to sleep for another 23
and so on...


36 posted on 01/14/2013 1:21:00 AM PST by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: Constitution 123

Indeed the Marx movement has been going on for years.


37 posted on 01/14/2013 7:54:43 AM PST by Vaduz
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To: jmacusa

My grandfather had a democrat brother whom he refused to talk to for like 30 odd years. I must admit to having inherited the same feeling in regard to my own brother when he started to show signs of becoming a liberal.

In fact I disagreed with his choice of wife on the related ground that I felt her New York liberal background would eventually bring into my brothers family the same ideology faults that has served compromised the families of New York, (including in my opinion) her own broken family.

I was however perswaded to keep my silence at the wedding in hopes that my pointing out the issue might help enable them to avoid the same ideological pitfalls, that has led to such havoc in her native land.

My bother has fortunately sense moved back into the conservative way of looking at things, and his wife seems not far behind him. I really don’t think either of them have ever cared that much, although sense having their first baby they seemed to become more politically aware & conservative.

As for your “liberal” siblings, having nearly found myself in your place it was my notion at the time to have fun with their nonsense by teasing them relentlessly. (Who says family politics can’t be fun?)
As my brother drifted back to conservatism this didn’t get very far, in this respect I’m actually a bit envious of your situation. I’ve never really had regular access to a national socialist before, at least not one that i didn’t eventually break :( ... (They are fragile things at heart and deep down they sense it too, hence their resistance to debate with knowledgeable Conservative.)

To put it frankly in their minds their attachment to their ideology has been trained to supersede their attachment to reason. Such is the ideological training of a socialist pawn(Marx’s usefully idiots).
Breaking thou their firewall logistically to require an indirect approach, to bypass their defenses and force them to confront their own internal contradictions.

In simple language they can’t realize your talking about politics in talking about the printable that underline that politics. Instead its got to be something monedane like a family game or a sporting event. Then you slowly ease in the logical correlation to political printable underlining a free political system.

A great family example could perhaps be found in the area of choosing family activities, which you would only later relate to choosing collective activity’s on a government level. AFTER they had in their head firmly established their own individual desire not to partispate in everything.

I hope you see where Im going here because once they have decided not to attend every family activity for whatever reason you would only need to quietly suggest that had this family been a government operating under their political system they would have no choice at all. lol Acting as if they don’t in obedience to their ideology(humorously) can help make the evils of the same ideology very much more real and impossible to ignore for them.

But do so quietly with subtly arrangements & choices. They cannot know what you are trying to do until after it is already done, and they can never know how you planned it out, less they attribute it to an arranged phenom.


38 posted on 01/15/2013 1:21:52 PM PST by Monorprise
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To: Monorprise

Thank you for an erudite and well reasoned response. Funny thing is at one time I was raging leftie and my family used to tell me to cool it. Now it’s come full-circle and I’m telling them to cool it and get with the program, to see what it is they put back in office and that the country is collapsing around us. I’m heart broken, for what is happening to America and to my family. In all my years I’ve imagined things as they are now. God help us.


39 posted on 01/15/2013 8:53:57 PM PST by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: Monorprise

< typo; meant to say ‘’ never imagined things as they are now’’


40 posted on 01/15/2013 8:59:17 PM PST by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: jmacusa

“Thank you for an erudite and well reasoned response. Funny thing is at one time I was raging leftie and my family used to tell me to cool it. Now it’s come full-circle and I’m telling them to cool it and get with the program, to see what it is they put back in office and that the country is collapsing around us. I’m heart broken, for what is happening to America and to my family. In all my years I’ve imagined things as they are now. God help us.”

I should very much like to learn about what you thought when you were a raging leftie and why & how you changed.

I’m always fascinated to hear theses story’s because they normally come from people who value reasoning but they sometimes also come due to emotional conflicts which have forced them to confront the inherit evil in leftism.

In many case I learn things from their experience that helps me improve my strategy.


41 posted on 01/15/2013 10:52:47 PM PST by Monorprise
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To: Monorprise
I didn't have any real political sense until some thirty years ago I met a woman who was a few years older than me and had been a sixties radical and it was from her I learned about ;the power structure'' and ''question authority'' and a whole bunch of other crap that made me feel like the smartest person in the room. It also gave me a liberating feeling railing against my parents values and almost hating my own country. I saw America as alternately good and alternately an evil place too. I didn't have to think much, not critically anyway, liberals and lefties don't think critically, with them it's all emotion which is why you can never have a rational debate with any of them. Once you get past their talking points, breaching the wall '' if you will, they have nothing to argue with and that's when the ad hominms come out and they try and shut down the debate. They all do this, every last one of them because that's what I used to do.There's an old saying "a liberal is a person too broad-minded to take their own side in an argument''I couldn't have articulated a viewpoint back then on any thing I believed in and no liberal can today. It's amazing how truly stupid liberals are and yet we suffer their nonsense in the media, the popular culture, in education, lording themselves and their poison over us and we never really call them to account. Liberals and lefties trade on the fact conservatives are decent , reasonable people who wouldn't resort to the agitprop and violence they do.They use our values against and I've told conservatives time and again to take the gloves off, forget about being nice and start fighting back. What changed me? Well the short answer is I sobered up. I was an alcoholic and when I finally sobered up and began listening to Hannity driving home from work I began to realize just how wrong-headed I had been. Liberalism is a lot like substance abuse. It's emotion over intellect just as when you're sober and rational it's intellect over emotion.
42 posted on 01/15/2013 11:33:07 PM PST by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: Fee

There is a solution for such people: is called a vasectomy. LIVs are a blight on society.


43 posted on 01/16/2013 6:59:13 PM PST by Clemenza ("History, I believe, furnishes no example of a priest-ridden people maintaining a free civil governm)
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