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Britain's New Stealth Bomber Is Unmanned And Fully Autonomous
TBI ^ | 1-13-2013 | Robert Johnson

Posted on 01/13/2013 12:21:08 PM PST by blam

Britain's New Stealth Bomber Is Unmanned And Fully Autonomous

Robert Johnson
Jan. 13, 2013, 4:38 AM

Britain's New Stealth Bomber Is Unmanned And Fully Autonomous

BAE Taranis

Britain's Air Force has been using Tornado jets as bombers for decades and is already building a fleet of new Typhoons, but BAE hopes to supplement those forces with a powerful new drone.

The Taranis, named for the Celtic god of thunder will fly faster than the speed of sound and beyond the eye of enemy radar with its single-wing stealth design, and UK officials hope to see it replace piloted planes and current unmanned drones alike.

It's a tall order, but the Taranis already has some nifty technology built into it. In the event the Taranis is spotted and efforts to bring the drone down begun, it can self-evade without input from a controller.

It can also independently identify targets and would only check back with a human controller before initiating an attack. At about $200 million the Taranis prototype isn't cheap, but the RAF believes it's a good investment.

The Telegraph:

Nigel Whitehead, group managing director of programmes at BAE Systems, which has been developing Taranis, said the new drone could change the way aircraft are used by the MoD in the future, which currently uses manned planes for combat missions.

Remote controlled drones such as Reaper are also used by the Ministry of Defence and US military to attack targets ... the Taranis is expected to provide a prototype of a new kind of bomber that will replace piloted planes and the current drones.

Replacing full-sized manned bombers with more than three decades of battle-tested experience is no small feat, and the Taranis, at least this version, isn't terribly large.

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(Excerpt) Read more at businessinsider.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: airplane; britain; military; stealth

1 posted on 01/13/2013 12:21:12 PM PST by blam
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To: blam

Can skynet be far behind?


2 posted on 01/13/2013 12:24:35 PM PST by Politically Correct (A member of the rabble in good standing)
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To: blam

The once mighty Royal Navy consists of about 25 destroyers and smaller vessels. Their money s going to house and feed Muslims. What makes you think they’ll actually field any of these?


3 posted on 01/13/2013 12:24:47 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: blam

Looks American.


4 posted on 01/13/2013 12:26:05 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: blam

I guess Black Ops 2 is becoming a little bit more real than I thought


5 posted on 01/13/2013 12:26:21 PM PST by Tyrannis (Long Live The Republic)
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To: Tyrannis
next on the scene will be antigrav ~ and we'll just keep these puppies up in space wandering about until they're needed.

We'll also be able to eliminate the federal highway gasoline tax ~ and some other stuff.

6 posted on 01/13/2013 12:34:02 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Jet Jaguar

Ping.


7 posted on 01/13/2013 12:34:33 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: blam

8 posted on 01/13/2013 12:36:46 PM PST by Morris70
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To: Politically Correct

“Can skynet be far behind?”

It’s already here and based in the UK!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skynet_(satellite)

Skynet-5D: Military satellite’s classified tech
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-20774276
18 December 2012 Last updated at 21:02 ET Help
A powerful new telecommunications satellite is being launched on Wednesday for the British military.

The Skynet-5D spacecraft is the final piece in a multi-billion-pound system that enables UK forces to stay connected wherever they are deployed in the world.

Because it is a military system, Skynet has been designed to evade enemy jamming and eavesdropping, and as such contains a number of classified technologies.

BBC science correspondent Jonathan Amos was granted special access to the spacecraft before its launch.
http://www.astrium.eads.net/en/news2/skynet-5d-launched-by-ariane-5.html


9 posted on 01/13/2013 12:44:10 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Shocking, I know, but I believe the UK now has about 6 destroyers...?


10 posted on 01/13/2013 1:05:07 PM PST by gaijin
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To: blam

Fundamental question here. Stealth - low signature. Drone - RF link back to a controller. Isn’t that a basic conflict?


11 posted on 01/13/2013 1:27:07 PM PST by ThunderSleeps (Stop obama now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: ThunderSleeps

It can be autonomous.

Yeah if it’s transmitting you can target that.


12 posted on 01/13/2013 1:42:02 PM PST by cruise_missile
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To: ThunderSleeps
Probably digital and hops frequencies. Early comm encryption equipment in the U.S. Military (back in early 90's) did the frequency hopping thing. I imagine it is hella fast these days (i.e., you won't get a steady signature on the target).
The Chinese have figured out how to use cell towers and monitor the disruptions in communications between towers to figure out a targets heading.
13 posted on 01/13/2013 1:45:13 PM PST by Michael Barnes (Obamaa+ Downgrade)
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To: blam

New desktop back ground pic.

Thanks.


14 posted on 01/13/2013 1:48:42 PM PST by moovova
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To: ThunderSleeps

probably operates on automatic logic circuits eliminating the need for a direct link for much of its mission. This is a bomber, it just has to fly to a set of way points, drop its payload on a final GPS coordinate, and then return from whence it came via a second set of way points or the same way points. Not a lot of “thought processes” would be required. A fighter plane would have to do a lot more “thinking”.


15 posted on 01/13/2013 2:05:08 PM PST by RC one (.From My Cold Dead Hands.)
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To: blam

I think it’s kinda cool.
Don’t know if they’ll eventually develop it or not, but it is cool.


16 posted on 01/13/2013 2:51:12 PM PST by Dartman
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To: blam

While these very high tech birds are impressive and important in their own right, I suspect that the future of air war will be on the other side of the equation of quality vs. quantity.

Imagine a really cheap UAV, that, along with its engine, fuel tank, simple wire guidance from a simple shielded computer, and 1000lb bomb, is about as expensive as an economy car, say $30,000 each, mass produced.

For the cost of a single B-2 Stealth Bomber, about $750m, you could build 30,000 of these simple drones.

Who could shoot down an air armada of 300 aircraft, much less 3,000? 30,000?

And if you equipped just a few dozen with reasonably good air to air missiles, you could likely get air superiority as well.

The use of the things is simple: Just fill their tank, insert a modular computer brain into them, arm their weapons system, and launch.


17 posted on 01/13/2013 2:57:39 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

“fully autonomous”??

fully?

You mean it decides when and who to attack all by itself? It could just decide one night to go and bomb Scotland, just ‘cuz?


18 posted on 01/13/2013 2:59:22 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: blam

Actually if you slide a Spitfire under it, and tip the UAV`s wing, the gyros will go haywire and it will crash like a V1.


19 posted on 01/13/2013 3:03:54 PM PST by bunkerhill7 ( yup!)
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To: moovova
BAE-Taranis-UCAV-1920x1080p.jpg
20 posted on 01/13/2013 3:04:14 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpAOwJvTOio)
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To: blam
Britain's New Stealth Bomber Is Unmanned And Fully Autonomous

And comes with no conscious objection when it's used against British civilians.

21 posted on 01/13/2013 3:32:27 PM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: ThunderSleeps

The downfall of drones is the failure to maintain EMCON. Someone will eventually figure out how to ferret out the signal and get a location on the drone. Unless the software exists for the to identify the target in a dynamic environment, there will still be some signals activity going on. So the only way to implement stealth technology with EMCON is to have a manned aircraft.
Drones may still work for now dealing with low-tech opponents, or we think low tech - one will eventually develop a countermeasure.
Just remember that an F-117 Nighthawk was shot down over Serbia by an SA-3 Goa in 1999. Not exactly a state of the art missile at that time.


22 posted on 01/13/2013 4:06:14 PM PST by Fred Hayek (The Democratic Party is the operational wing of CPUSA.)
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To: blam

Thanks for the posting and pix


23 posted on 01/13/2013 4:07:51 PM PST by mosesdapoet ("To punish a province let a professor rule it." Frederick The Great paraphrased)
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To: blam
Looks like our X-47B

X-47B Launch

24 posted on 01/13/2013 4:25:20 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: blam

B-2 me too.


25 posted on 01/13/2013 4:30:20 PM PST by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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To: Vince Ferrer
X-47B - CVN-75
26 posted on 01/13/2013 4:59:23 PM PST by blam
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

“Who could shoot down an air armada of 300 aircraft, much less 3,000? 30,000?”

Stalin: “quantity has a quality all its own.”


27 posted on 01/13/2013 5:20:03 PM PST by theBuckwheat
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To: blam
Is it really supersonic?

The zigzag landing gear doors are hardly conducive to high speed.
All of the drones that we have that look exactly like this one are
subsonic.

I tend to believe they received some drawings from Boeing.

28 posted on 01/13/2013 5:37:49 PM PST by cruise_missile
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To: zot

British drone bomber.


29 posted on 01/13/2013 5:52:02 PM PST by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: zot

British drone bomber.


30 posted on 01/13/2013 5:54:41 PM PST by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: GreyFriar

Thanks for the ping. I wonder who they intend to use this against.


31 posted on 01/13/2013 6:24:30 PM PST by zot
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To: zot

Argentina perhaps?


32 posted on 01/13/2013 7:16:54 PM PST by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: cruise_missile
"The zigzag landing gear doors are hardly conducive to high speed. All of the drones that we have that look exactly like this one are subsonic."

The higher it flies, the less aerodynamic it has to be to attain supersonic speed, eh? (electronics don't need oxygen)

33 posted on 01/13/2013 7:51:46 PM PST by blam
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To: theBuckwheat

It is a longstanding equation, that quality and quantity need to be balanced, because if you go too far in one direction, it makes you vulnerable to the other.

The best example of a time when quantity mattered was during the Korean War, which despite US technology, the Chinese should have won, save for the hemorrhagic hantavirus epidemic that suddenly decimated their forces.

In recent years, technology has dominated, such as in the Iran-Iraq war, where the Iranians had raw numbers that they were willing to expend; and the Iraqis had mechanized infantry, though greatly outnumbered. In that case, a terribly bloody stalemate resulting in a draw.

But I think my point is that all a country would need would be the ability to mass produce cars, along with some off the shelf aircraft engines, bombs and computers. They could discreetly build their air armada for years, and it would be a huge shock to whatever typical army fought them.


34 posted on 01/13/2013 7:54:37 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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To: blam

lol.


35 posted on 01/13/2013 8:23:36 PM PST by cruise_missile
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To: cruise_missile

When the landing gear are retracted (which is most of the time, when in flight), they are flush with the rest of the aircraft, minimizing drag.

The zig-zag may be to minimize radar reflections.


36 posted on 01/14/2013 6:59:39 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: DuncanWaring

That is exactly what the zigzag pattern is for.
It still produces a drag especially at supersonic speeds.
If it is completely flush it doesn’t need to be zigzag does it?

Besides that the intake doesn’t look like a supersonic intake.

Again. This is a copy of our drones. Our drones are close to but not
supersonic. So why would theirs be supersonic and ours not if they look the same?


37 posted on 01/14/2013 12:30:09 PM PST by cruise_missile
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To: BenLurkin
Not really. Everyone is bound by the same laws of Physics and Math (much more binding than any international law of arms limitation!) Everyone puts the same numbers in and comes out with the same answers. So these things all look much the same whether they are American, British, French or Israeli.

It looks more like the optimum design.

38 posted on 01/15/2013 9:21:24 AM PST by Vanders9
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To: GeronL
We can but hope ... :)

Seriously, no. All that happens with these things is that the "pilot" is in some safe concrete bunker miles from the action. By autonomous they mean the thing pretty much flies itself, allowing the ground "pilot" to concentrate solely on tactical control.

These systems are nowhere near as good as manned aircraft. As far as I know, none of them have a dogfight capability at the moment but that is certainly being developed. These things are getting better all the time. Odds are they will be the future.

39 posted on 01/15/2013 9:27:51 AM PST by Vanders9
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To: zot
I wonder who they intend to use this against.

Since Soros and his bankster ilk won't allow anyone to fight back against his islamofascist terrorists and shock troops, that leaves just English football hooligans.

40 posted on 01/15/2013 9:37:47 AM PST by Sirius Lee (All that is required for evil to advance is for government to do "something")
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To: Sirius Lee

Heh! It might be useful against English football hooligans. I was thinking they might plan to use it against Argentina.


41 posted on 01/15/2013 7:42:24 PM PST by zot
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