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Patriotic Group To Build Armed 'Defensible' Neighborhood Fortress
CNS News ^ | 12th January 2013 | Gregory Gwyn-Williams, Jr.

Posted on 01/13/2013 3:50:29 AM PST by Candor7

A group of like-minded patriots, bound together by pride in American exceptionalism, plan on building an armed community to protect their liberty.

The group, named Citadel, intends to purchase 2,000 to 3,000 acres for the project in western Idaho. The community will comprise of 3,500 to 7,000 families of patriotic Americans who "voluntarily choose to live together in accordance with Thomas Jefferson's ideal of Rightful Liberty."

According to the Citadel website, Rightful Liberty means that "neighbors keep their noses out of other neighbors' business, that neighbors live and let live."

Citadel explains that residents in the community will be bound by the following:

•Patriotism

•Pride in American Exceptionalism

•Our proud history of Liberty as defined by our Founding Fathers, and

•Physical preparedness to survive and prevail in the face of natural catastrophes --such as Hurricanes Sandy or Katrina -- or man-made catastrophes such as a power grid failure or economic collapse.

Residents should also agree that being "prepared for the emergencies of life and being proficient with the American icon of Liberty -- the Rifle -- are prudent measures."

Some of the benefits of the Citadel community include a safe, well-prepared, patriotic community where children will be educated in school, not indoctrinated.

The community will be protected by a perimeter wall that will be inaccessible to "tourists." Each neighborhood within the community will have lower walls, dividing the town into defensible sections.

The website has a link to applications where prospective residents can sign up. According to Citadel, more than 200 families have completed applications, even before any land has been purchased.

While Citadel may sound wonderful to many who are reading this, the community has posted a warning on their home page:

"Marxists, Socialists, Liberals and Establishment Republicans will likely find that life in our community is incompatible with their existing ideology and preferred lifestyles."

Citadel says that every patriot selected to live within the community "will voluntarily agree to follow the footsteps of our Founding Fathers by swearing to one another our lives, our fortunes and our Sacred Honor to defend one another and Liberty against all enemies, foreign and domestic."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: Idaho
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; citadel; freedom; rightfulliberty
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Citidel Web Site:

http://iiicitadel.com/index.html

1 posted on 01/13/2013 3:50:42 AM PST by Candor7
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To: Fred Nerks; TigersEye; null and void; stephenjohnbanker; mojitojoe; Beckwith; LucyT; ...

Ping to Neighborhood Fortress


2 posted on 01/13/2013 3:53:35 AM PST by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: Candor7
There are some serious flaws in their plan.

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3 posted on 01/13/2013 4:06:27 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Candor7
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4 posted on 01/13/2013 4:07:08 AM PST by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: cripplecreek

I am sure you will straighten out any flaws they have.


5 posted on 01/13/2013 4:08:49 AM PST by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: Candor7

I know they are totally against this, but this is somehow strangely the way I pictured the compounds in Glenn Beck’s book Agenda 21. Kinda’ spooky if you ask me.


6 posted on 01/13/2013 4:10:48 AM PST by EBH ( The 2nd Amendment exists for times like this.)
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To: EBH

One way in and out, way over populated, no place is out of sight of a watch tower, walls within walls within walls. Sure doesn’t sound like freedom to me.


7 posted on 01/13/2013 4:16:47 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: EBH

Kinda’ spooky if you ask me.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

People are getting desperate. They know whats coming.

People will get even more desperate.We have not seen spooky yet IMHO.


8 posted on 01/13/2013 4:29:07 AM PST by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: cripplecreek

Sure doesn’t sound like freedom to me.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

This has all been done before. Look at the castle towns of Europe. We do have thousands of “gated communities.” It was the same idea in Ireland with their shelter towers (Irish: túrtheach (singular), túrthithe (plural)).

They do not work well and can be destroyed by seige and from the air.But they sure can take a lot of the enemy with them, making the enemy pay big time.A few can even prevail, a very few according to history.


9 posted on 01/13/2013 4:36:25 AM PST by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: cripplecreek
Is this

the kind of structure they have in mind? I hope there is plenty of food and water storage in case of a siege. The double walls would be useful against a mob on the ground, but I see a problem if the attacker has missiles or helicopters.
10 posted on 01/13/2013 4:37:27 AM PST by jmcenanly ("The more corrupt the state, the more laws." Tacitus, Publius Cornelius)
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To: Candor7

At least this is a start. With time these ideas and concepts will take better shape. To me it is how to keep the government infiltrators, the real freedom and liberty haters out and how to deal with them should any of them get caught inside the compounds. You know the America hater SPLC types will get their brown stained knickers in a knot over these ideas.


11 posted on 01/13/2013 4:38:20 AM PST by Ron H. (America on the fast track to oblivion.)
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To: Candor7

Over on the FAQ page a very pertinent question is asked. One I wanted to know as well...

Who is the leader?

Seemed like a reasonable question to me. Somebody has to be in charge. Who is this approval board etc. They don’t answer the question. The answer is all shrouded in patriotic language.

That is what is spooky...One doesn’t have any clue who they are dealing with, sending their “patriot” application too, or the money too?

People are getting desperate, I agree with on that. And that also means people will be taken advantage of ....just be very careful. Not everyone spouting off about ‘patriot’ this or that is what they appear to be.

Uh... No Thank You.


12 posted on 01/13/2013 4:41:11 AM PST by EBH ( The 2nd Amendment exists for times like this.)
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To: jmcenanly

Between 14,000 and 28,000 people on 2 to 3 thousand acres sounds like a city to me.

I live in a township that’s more than 23 square miles and there are less than 3000 people here.


13 posted on 01/13/2013 4:42:58 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek
There are some serious flaws in their plan.

Jonestown comes to mind..........creepy does too.

14 posted on 01/13/2013 4:46:11 AM PST by Hot Tabasco (Jab her with a harpoon or just throw her from the train......)
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To: Candor7

What could possibly go wrong!


15 posted on 01/13/2013 4:49:10 AM PST by Samurai_Jack (ride out and confront the evil!)
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To: jmcenanly

Will they have cows to catapult over the walls, just in case?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQ8jGqdE2iw

An ample supply of imported French “taunters” would also be helpful.


16 posted on 01/13/2013 4:50:59 AM PST by QBFimi (When gunpowder speaks, beasts listen.)
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To: Samurai_Jack

Sounds sorta like a fancy commune to me. It’s not a new idea by any means; it’s really just an ideological statement metaphor manifested.


17 posted on 01/13/2013 4:55:22 AM PST by jsanders2001
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To: jmcenanly

You must return here with a shrubbery or else you will never pass through this wood alive!


18 posted on 01/13/2013 4:58:08 AM PST by Autonomous User (The Obama Doctrine: Blame America First.)
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To: Hot Tabasco

My little town is plenty defensible without the walls and overcrowding. 3 roads in, 2 of them across bridges and the 3rd surrounded by near impassable swamp. We’re off the beaten path with a lake on one side and swamp the rest of the way around.


19 posted on 01/13/2013 5:03:31 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Candor7

How long before they’re labeled as armed separatists?


20 posted on 01/13/2013 5:05:27 AM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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To: Candor7

Liberty should be spread, not fenced in.


21 posted on 01/13/2013 5:22:28 AM PST by BuddhistConservative
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To: BuddhistConservative
Unfortunately, those who would attempt to protect themselves in such compounds will NOT survive when the SHTF or they “resist”.

Our government has built (with our money) an arsenal like no other in the world. It would be quite simple to take such a compound off the map.

22 posted on 01/13/2013 5:30:34 AM PST by DaveA37
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To: jsanders2001

Hey didnt the original virginia settlement in williamsburg start out as a commune?


23 posted on 01/13/2013 5:32:28 AM PST by Samurai_Jack (ride out and confront the evil!)
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To: Candor7

Citadel says that every patriot selected to live within the community “will voluntarily agree to follow the footsteps of our Founding Fathers by swearing to one another our lives, our fortunes and our Sacred Honor to defend one another and Liberty against all enemies, foreign and domestic.”

The ULTIMATE HOA


24 posted on 01/13/2013 5:36:17 AM PST by Samurai_Jack (ride out and confront the evil!)
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To: cripplecreek

My idea was not really to build a HOA with a fotress around it. I thought if everyone had 25-50 acres each abutting each other you would have a massive piece of land of like minded neighbors which can develope a defensive plan over the whole “subdivision”. So they would have like 150,000 acres to use. It could be the size of a small military base. This would be significantly harder to attack and easier to defend, than this “castle”.


25 posted on 01/13/2013 5:43:59 AM PST by castlegreyskull
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To: Samurai_Jack
The walled city concept died out the day the English discovered you could fire cannons at city walls and knock a hole in them.

Or was that the Turks, or the Chinese, or whoever!!!!

Today light infantry carry weapons with them that can knock down any wall you want.

BTW, the unfettered access to town walls the cannon had ENDED the day Jeanne d'Arc was told by "the voices" to aim your own cannons at the other cannons.

HIstory was never the same after that!

26 posted on 01/13/2013 5:45:17 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: cripplecreek

Does this place grow any food or cattle?


27 posted on 01/13/2013 5:45:24 AM PST by castlegreyskull
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To: castlegreyskull

There is a farmer’s market on ther lower right side so I am assuming yes they will have farms and cows.


28 posted on 01/13/2013 5:53:34 AM PST by Blue Highway
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To: Candor7

They should instead spend their time getting their states to secede from the union.


29 posted on 01/13/2013 5:57:01 AM PST by Founding Father (The Pedophile moHAMmudd (PBUH---Pigblood be upon him))
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To: cripplecreek

I’m really sorry to say this, but Jim Jones comes to mind when I read their homeowners’ association rules.

Additionally, where is the farming? Where’s the food going to be grown? You have to figure this is a SHTF community...looks to try to be self sustaining...but no farms?

Oh, that’s right, the serfs who grown the food will live outside the walls.

It’s nice to see that someone is looking for like-minded folks, but it looks a little Big Brother But Bring Your Own Guns to me.


30 posted on 01/13/2013 6:27:34 AM PST by blu
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To: muawiyah
I'm not a fan of the bunker mentality. It always assumes that when TSHTF that we all go back to 100AD. The reality is that at worst we'll go back to about 1850 with 1930 being even more likely due to the infrastructure that's in place and will hold for several years.

I drew up a quikie spot map of all the little towns across the southern half of my county. The dark lines are connections I have in other little towns. The terrain is mostly lakes, rivers and swamp with forest and farms on the higher ground.

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Defensively, I think I'm better off staying right here. Urban zombies don't organize and would be at the mercy of the locals pretty much everywhere they went off the interstate. Anyone who thinks they will be able to withstand an attaack by our military is simply fooling themselves.
31 posted on 01/13/2013 6:45:59 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: blu

Doesn’t look like there is room for any streets within the community either. Also seems kind of odd that this conservative community wouldn’t show a plan to include a church.


32 posted on 01/13/2013 6:51:51 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek

I agree. It’ll be SHTF-steam punk style. We’ll be living in the 1800s with 2013 toys laying about.


33 posted on 01/13/2013 7:02:06 AM PST by blu
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To: Candor7
If all assaults were by foot soldiers, this fortress might be daunting.

Given 10% of the might of our military, this place could be gone within minutes.

And when push comes to shove and they are figuring out the rationing, who gets what? An age old question with no simple answer. They could end up fighting among themselves over a loaf of bread. At that point, all the documents they signed and all the oaths they swore are worthless.

34 posted on 01/13/2013 7:04:29 AM PST by upchuck (America's at an awkward stage. Too late to work within the system, too early to shoot the bastards.)
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To: cripplecreek

I would assume the churchES are in the town center? And the synagog.


35 posted on 01/13/2013 7:05:57 AM PST by blu
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To: blu

Our village council is investigating the feasibility of a hydroelectric retrofit on the dam now.


36 posted on 01/13/2013 7:12:39 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek

The revolutionaries must live among the people like the fish in the sea.


37 posted on 01/13/2013 7:20:45 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: Candor7

Waco? Sounds creepy.


38 posted on 01/13/2013 7:21:32 AM PST by Ditter
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To: Candor7

Tweaker’s heaven.


39 posted on 01/13/2013 7:25:23 AM PST by MARTIAL MONK (I'm waiting for the POP!)
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To: MARTIAL MONK
“Fixed fortifications are a monument to the stupidity of man.”

George S. Patton

40 posted on 01/13/2013 8:29:47 AM PST by Mogger (Independence, better fuel economy and performance with American made synthetic oil.)
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To: Candor7
I read an article a few years back about a walled town/city in Brazil (30,000 people, I believe) that was inhabited by mostly professional, White, affluent residents. It had 1,200 private armed guards and all non residents were searched on entering and exiting the guard posts.

Brazil has a larger Black population than any other country outside Africa. Maybe a Brazilian form of White Flight?

41 posted on 01/13/2013 8:39:59 AM PST by blam
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To: BuddhistConservative

Liberty should be spread, not fenced in.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

I agree 100%. But then we do have people who have castle karma, whose activity is predicated on the mistaken concept that form can be an ultimate protection against impermanance. We both know better, and we both likely know a lot more about maintaining a free and well favored birth than 99% of the people who read this.

Many of us have learned many lessons from the East, and we noticed that the castle doctrine did nothing to save South Vietnam.

Yes Liberty should be spread , not fenced in. Francis Marion would have agreed.


42 posted on 01/13/2013 8:40:25 AM PST by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: PatriotGirl827

this I gotta read..........


43 posted on 01/13/2013 10:07:13 AM PST by PatriotGirl827 (O Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee)
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To: blam
Sounds like Alphaville.
44 posted on 01/13/2013 10:16:17 AM PST by The people have spoken
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To: Candor7

Call out the instigators
Because there’s something in the air
We’ve got to get together sooner or later
Because the revolution’s here, and you know it’s right
And you know that it’s right

We have got to get it together
We have got to get it together now

Lock up the streets and houses
Because there’s something in the air
We’ve got to get together sooner or later
Because the revolution’s here, and you know it’s right
And you know that it’s right

We have got to get it together
We have got to get it together now

Hand out the arms and ammo
We’re going to blast our way through here
We’ve got to get together sooner or later
Because the revolution’s here, and you know it’s right
And you know that it’s right

We have got to get it together
We have got to get it together


45 posted on 01/13/2013 10:41:55 AM PST by freepersup (Patrolling the waters off Free Republic one dhow at a time.)
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To: Candor7

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oppidum


46 posted on 01/13/2013 10:43:20 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: cripplecreek
Actually, we show up in 2013 with an awful lot of broken stuff and a powerful stench. Earth, though, is made in such a way that the stench, and the sources, will soon be gone, and we will be able to return to a very high tech, but still hunter/gatherer way of life ~ the kind for which the rest of the planet is actually designed.

Much stuff will remain broken ~ eventually plate tectonics and the weather will take care of that.

47 posted on 01/13/2013 10:44:38 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: cripplecreek

Just for interest maybe you could add an appropriate dot to your map to represent the location and size of nearest source of potential feral marauders.


48 posted on 01/13/2013 10:55:04 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: Paladin2

I’m about 70 miles west of Detroit with nearly the same sort of small town population between twice over.

The simple fact is that inner city people don’t leave the interstate. The biggest city in this county is about 30,000 with some zombies but even they don’t much leave town.


49 posted on 01/13/2013 11:02:06 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Candor7
I don't know but it seems to me to be the easiest way to round up patriots.

Give the encampment a patriotic name, throw some patriotic words and phrasing out there and under that guise they will soon have real Americans paying their own way to be locked up in indoctrination camps. Walk right this way folks and your troubles will be over!

It's got all the things that an indoctrination camp would need. Multi walls (to keep you in after you're already there), residents continually under the watchful eyes of those on the walls, food distribution site (seeing that there is no where in their plans for farming activities or cattle holds), and the list can just keep going on for a long time.

To me, this looks more to keep people in rather than out.

50 posted on 01/13/2013 11:33:07 AM PST by Texas Tea
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