Soros' CAP reveals gun-grabbing agenda including plan to fold ATF into the FBI!
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To: Seizethecarp
“No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms. The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.”
— Thomas Jefferson
2 posted on
01/12/2013 7:06:31 PM PST by
FlingWingFlyer
(Impeach Obama Now.)
To: Seizethecarp
Maybe they could start with Chicago?
3 posted on
01/12/2013 7:06:59 PM PST by
Dallas59
(America died a little bit more on 11/6/2012)
To: Seizethecarp
The 2nd Amendment is not negotiable.
I am not a criminal. I have the right to protect my family, myself and my property from a criminal or from government.
Democrats want to make criminals out of the citizens of this country. The only thing they know is the use of force by making laws to criminalize citizens. They label those laws to make them sound good and for your benefit.
This is a fraud.
In 1994, Sen. Dianne Feinstein stated that if she had the votes, she would take all the guns from citizens. She conveniently had a complete gun-registration law and ban of hundreds of guns to submit the day after the last shooting.
U.S. Atty. Gen. Eric Holder has stated we have to do the same thing with the guns that we did to smoking.
All of these people have taxpayer-funded security around them.
There is only one reason to ban guns, and that is Democrats and Obama want to disarm citizens. It does not make the children or the public safer. But it makes it easier to use force in making the public comply with their whims.
Now Obama is going to issue an executive order to ban guns. Can anyone say dictatorship?
4 posted on
01/12/2013 7:10:38 PM PST by
2ndDivisionVet
(I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
To: Seizethecarp
It must feel sooo good to be a liberal.
A liberal never lets facts interfere with his theories.
To: Seizethecarp

the BATFAGS will resist being absorbed into the FBI tooth and nail, they like not being held accountable for ANYTHING or beholdin to ANYBODY... count on it
8 posted on
01/12/2013 7:14:48 PM PST by
Chode
(Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
To: Seizethecarp
Entire agenda is nationalist socialist gun-grabbing socialism, setting up FBI DEA Gestapo to enforce blatantly unconstitutional criminal and treasonous action by the executive branch - using the same ATF that used taxpayer cash from DEA informants to illegally buy AK 47s and transport them to Sinaloa cartel narcotraficante operatives in Mexico, who used them to murder US agents, border patrol, and thousands of Mexicans officials and citizens.
THESE ARE KNOWN CRIMINAL ELEMENTS WITHIN THE GOVERNEMT ADVANCING A HOSTILE ARMED GOVERNMENT IN OPPOSITION TO FREEDOMS OF THE CITIZENRY.
How is this different from , say, Pol Pot in Cambodia Killing Fields?
To: Seizethecarp
They know they need to move ATF into another agency because of Fast and Furious. Look for some rebranding as well, but a turd by any other name still smells like poop. ATF only came over from Treasury 10 years ago so there will still be some people at FBI that won’t want to be thrown in with them. It will be a very rocky merger without even taking into account Fast and Furious.
10 posted on
01/12/2013 7:19:46 PM PST by
USNBandit
(sarcasm engaged at all times)
To: Seizethecarp
BATF started under Treasury. Then moved to DOJ.
I'm willing to compromise. I say we disband the BATFE. They were thugs looking for a home from the start.
/johnny
To: Seizethecarp
I’m sure home-schooling was first on the list... /sarc
13 posted on
01/12/2013 7:45:40 PM PST by
SERKIT
("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.......)
To: Seizethecarp
These groups can propose all they want but it will NOT pass! They keep trying to pass laws to prevent law abiding citizens from owning weapons but they continually run up against the Second Amendment and Public outcry. They can just go pound sand as far as I am concerned.
These anti-gun activists constantly try to edge their way into to all gun ban that they actually hope for but it will not happen in this generation nor probably the next. I do fear that with all the propaganda that is being espoused in public schools that the future may change. Hope that our children have a better understanding of the subject and the possible outcomes of Government control of firearms. Teach your children folks...
15 posted on
01/12/2013 8:00:24 PM PST by
Deagle
(quo)
To: Seizethecarp
I love how the names leftists choose for their organizations are almost always the exact opposite of their active goals.
16 posted on
01/12/2013 8:01:16 PM PST by
Psycho_Bunny
(Thought Puzzle: Describe Islam without using the phrase "mental disorder" more than four times.)
To: Seizethecarp
SSDD: Tear up the Constitution, and Utopia is ours.
17 posted on
01/12/2013 8:05:18 PM PST by
Slings and Arrows
(You can't have IngSoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
To: Seizethecarp
From the article:
CAPs proposals which include requiring universal background checks, banning military-grade assault weapons
The group also suggests requiring firearms dealers to report to the federal government individuals who purchase multiple semiautomatic assault rifles within a five-day period.
Am I missing something here? They want to ban an item then require reporting on purchases of that same item?
To: Seizethecarp
CAP is another one of the many communist fronts that promote the communist cause for dear leader with the aid of many useful idiots.
29 posted on
01/12/2013 8:42:00 PM PST by
DBeers
()
To: Seizethecarp
They won’t be “sweeping” anything through the house and the Senate Repugs should fillabuster it in the Senate.
Same with the dark side’s plan for quick and dirty illegal immigrant reform.
The GOP should just stop him.
To: Seizethecarp
The marxist Soro front Center for American Progress (CAP) is to “liberal” as the “German-American Bund” was to Bundtcake.
To: Seizethecarp
“FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS”... OR THEIR’S.
LLS
45 posted on
01/13/2013 4:42:06 AM PST by
LibLieSlayer
(FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
To: Seizethecarp

Let subjugate them to OUR end game, DUST!
"COMPROMISE" is
a DIRTY word!
People who study the Bible know that
COMPROMISE almost always leads to destruction.
It's time to mock the "Gun Control" Zombies!
"Gun Control" is
a firm grip, steady breathing, accurate aim (developed by lots of practice), and a slow trigger pull.
The Swiss have got it CORRECT !
We need to learn
from the Swiss and implement their
"gun control measures" here in the United States right now, today!
These laws are the ones we should shove into the
"2nd Amendment Haters" faces.
" Today, military service for Swiss males is universal. At about age 20, every Swiss male goes through 118 consecutive days of recruit training in the Rekrutenschule. ...
Even before required training begins, young men and women may take optional courses with the Swiss army's M57 assault rifle.
They keep that gun at home for three months and receive six half-day training sessions.
From age 21 to 32, a Swiss man serves as a "frontline" troop in the Auszug, and devotes three weeks a year (in eight of the 12 years) to continued training.
From age 33 to 42, he serves in the Landwehr (like America's National Guard); every few years, he reports for two-week training periods.
Finally, from ages 43, to 50, he serves in the Landsturm; in this period, he only spends 13 days total in "home guard courses."
Over a soldier's career he also spends scattered days on mandatory equipment inspections and required target practice.
Thus, in a 30-year mandatory military career, a Swiss man only spends about one year in direct military service.
Following discharge from the regular army, men serve on reserve status until age 50 (55 for officers).
By the Federal Constitution of 1874, military servicemen are given their first equipment, clothing and arms.
After the first training period, conscripts must keep gun, ammunition and equipment an ihrem Wohnort ("in their homes") until the end of their term of service.
Today, enlisted men are issued M57 AUTOMATIC assault rifles and officers are given pistol.
Each reservist is issued 24 rounds of ammunition in sealed packs for emergency use.(Contrary to Handgun Control's claim that "all ammunition must be accounted for," the emergency ammunition is the only ammo that requires accounting.)
After discharge from service, the man is given a bolt rifle free from registration or obligation.
Starting in the 1994, the government will GIVE ex-reservists assault rifles. Officers carry pistols rather than rifles and are given their pistols the end of their service.
When the government adopts a new infantry rifle, it sells the old ones to the public.
Reservists are encouraged to buy MILITARY ammunition(7.5 and 5.6mm-5.56 mm in other countries-for rifles and 9 and 7.65 mm Luger for pistols)
which is sold AT COST by the government, for target practice .
Non-military ammunition for long-gun hunting and .22 Long Rifle (LR) ammo are not subsidised, but are subiect to NO sales controls.
Non-military non-hunting ammunition more powerful than .22 LR (such as .38 Spl.) is registered at the time of sale.
Swiss military ammo must be registered IF bought at a private store, BUT NEED NOT BE REGISTERED IF bought at a range.
The nation's 3,000 shooting ranges sell the overwhelming majority of ammunition.
Technically, ammunition bought at the range must be used at the range, but the rule is barely known and almost never obeyed.
The army SELLS a variety of machine guns, submachine guns, anti-tank weapons, anti-aircraft guns, howitzers and cannons.
Purchasers of these weapons require an EASILY OBTAINED cantonal license, and the weapons are registered.
In a nation of six million people, there are at least two million guns, including 600,000 FULLY AUTOMATIC assault rifles, half a million pistols, and numerous machine guns.
Virtually every home has a gun.
Besides SUBSIDIZED military surplus, the Swiss can buy other firearms easily too.
While long guns require NO special purchase procedures, handguns are sold only to those with a Waffenerwerbsschien (purchase certificate) issued by a cantonal authority.
A certificate is issued to every applicant over 18 who is not a criminal or mentally infirm.
There are NO restrictions on the carrying of long guns.
About half the cantons have strict permit procedures for carrying handguns, and the other half have NO rules at all.
There is NO discernible difference in the crime rate between the cantons as a result of the different policies.
Thanks to a lawsuit brought by the Swiss gun lobby, semi-automatic rifles require NO PURCHASE PERMIT and are NOT registered by the government.
Thus, the ONLY long guns registered by the government are FULL AUTOMATICS."
The Swiss have got it CORRECT !
Let's adopt THEIR LAWS !
Remember:
The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they TRY to take it.
Read
Second Amendment: Its Not About Hunting, IT'S ABOUT TYRANNY .
46 posted on
01/13/2013 4:44:14 AM PST by
Yosemitest
(It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
To: Seizethecarp
That’s ripe,the ATf,the same agency that was lying to those dastardly gun dealers telling them It was fine to sellthousands of fully automatic rifles to the most barbaric drug cartels in mexico,,where hundreds of men women and children were slaughtered. those bastards should be in Leavenworth with Obama and Biden and Holder
To: Seizethecarp
Soros' CAP reveals gun-grabbing agenda including plan to fold ATF into the FBI! Heck - wait until they decide to fold every agency into the IRS - everyone is guilty with no possibility of proving innocence because if such an "innocence loophole" can be found, a new law will be put in place to negate it. Punishment varies from having all your accumulated wealth stolen up to death.
49 posted on
01/13/2013 8:13:11 AM PST by
trebb
(Allies no longer trust us. Enemies no longer fear us.)
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