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Defence chiefs prepare new plans to defend Falkland Islands ^

Posted on 01/12/2013 2:58:56 PM PST by Sub-Driver

Defence chiefs prepare new plans to defend Falkland Islands

Defence chiefs have drawn up new contingency plans designed to prevent hostile action by Argentina towards the Falkland Islands.

By Sean Rayment, Defence Correspondent

9:00PM GMT 12 Jan 2013

A series of military options are being actively considered as the war of words over the islands intensifies.

It is understood that additional troops, another warship and extra RAF Typhoon combat aircraft could be dispatched to the region ahead of the March referendum on the Falkland Islands’ future.

The options being proposed by planners at the Permanent Joint Headquarters in Northwood, north-west London are also said to include a “show of force” such as conducting naval exercises in the South Atlantic.

These could involve the deployment of the Royal Navy’s Response Task Force Group, a flotilla comprising destroyers, a frigate, a submarine and commandos.

Alternatives include deploying elements of the Army’s 16 Air Assault Brigade — the airborne task force which includes members of the Parachute Regiment — which has just completed a series of demanding exercises in Spain preparing for “general war”.

The Government is expecting a 100 per cent “yes” vote when the islanders are asked on March 11: “Do you wish the Falkland Islands to retain their current political status as an Overseas Territory of the United Kingdom?”

Intelligence chiefs have warned David Cameron that a resounding “yes” vote could lead to an aggressive “stunt” by the Argentine government, such as the planting of the country’s flag on the island by a small raiding party.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: argentina; falklandislands; falklands; unitedkingdom
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1 posted on 01/12/2013 2:58:59 PM PST by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver

Argentina should just coin some Trillion $ coins and buy it.

2 posted on 01/12/2013 3:05:27 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Paladin2
Argentina should just coin some Trillion $ coins and buy it.

Wouldn't work, the British would coin a Bazillion $ coin and buy it back.

3 posted on 01/12/2013 3:14:44 PM PST by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: SampleMan

Well then Argentina should mint a diamond-chipped quadrabazillion $ coin!

4 posted on 01/12/2013 3:19:22 PM PST by AD from SpringBay (We deserve the government we allow.)
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To: SampleMan

It cost about Great Britian $500k per Falklander to attack and free them 30 years ago. May not continue to be worth it. The U.S. should have stayed out of it and let the British bomb the mainland where everyone could learn of the consequences. In the US we used to hang cattle rustlers-not because of the lost cattle. It was because of the difficulty in keeping them from being stolen. Up the ante.

5 posted on 01/12/2013 3:19:51 PM PST by DIRTYSECRET
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To: Sub-Driver

If I was an Argentine soldier, I would not look forward to dealing with a British army with such recent combat experience.

6 posted on 01/12/2013 3:26:24 PM PST by ansel12 (Cruz said "conservatives trust Sarah Palin that if she says this guy is a conservative, that he is")
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This is all bluster on be half of the Argentinian’s because their currency is worthless........And their PM just wants to divert attention.

I’ve been to Buenos Aires - most aren’t buying her crap.

7 posted on 01/12/2013 3:39:06 PM PST by Sub-Driver (Proud member of the Republican wing of the Republican Party)
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To: Sub-Driver

Maybe the Limeys would do better to nuke Argentina this time around. They might get the point after that....

8 posted on 01/12/2013 3:40:20 PM PST by GenXteacher (You have chosen dishonor to avoid war; you shall have war also.)
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To: AD from SpringBay

“...quadrabazillion ...”

That’s impossible.

9 posted on 01/12/2013 3:46:45 PM PST by Born to Conserve
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To: Sub-Driver
The Argentines invasion the first time was completely unexpected. This time, the Brits are ready. The Argentines will NOT be allowed to land troops.

Remember also that the Iron Lady order the Brit sub to sink the Belgrano while she was technically outside the exclusion zone, though headed towards the islands. That's how to fight a war..will Cameron have the same intestinal fortitude?

Also Reagan aided the Brits by giving them access to our satellite imagery..the Brits knew what the Argentines were up to. Will Obama do the same this time? I suspect not.

10 posted on 01/12/2013 4:01:06 PM PST by ken5050 ("One useless man is a shame, two are a law firm, three or more are a Congress".. John Adams)
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To: Sub-Driver; Allegra; big'ol_freeper; Lil'freeper; TrueKnightGalahad; blackie; Cincinatus' Wife; ...
Splendid little war, it was. I made a mint... at gun shows selling t-shirts imprinted with "You Don't Falk With The Royal Navy!"
11 posted on 01/12/2013 4:03:43 PM PST by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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One dummy Trident D5 warhead over Buenos Aires would do it....

12 posted on 01/12/2013 4:06:26 PM PST by Kozak (The Republic is dead. I do not owe what we have any loyalty, wealth or sympathy.)
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To: Kozak

One squadron of Typhoon’s, one Type 45 Destroyer and one regiment of British troops would be enough to mangle any attempt by Argentina to land on the islands.

13 posted on 01/12/2013 4:27:08 PM PST by Natufian (t)
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To: Born to Conserve
“...quadrabazillion ...”

That’s impossible.

Don't be so sure. Have you seen the national debt and Obama's spending lately?

14 posted on 01/12/2013 4:34:51 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Sub-Driver
How Britian's current military forces compare to 1982:


Armed Forces Personnel: 320,000

Ships: 2 Carriers, 2 Assault ships, 32 Submarines, 15 Destroyers, 46 Frigates, 1 Ice Patrol Ship, 12 Hydrographic survey ships, 15 Patrol ships/craft, 29 Minesweepers and minehunters, 45 Royal Fleet Auxiliary

Aircraft: 400 plus


Armed Forces personnel:160,000

Ships: 0 Carriers, 9 Submarines, 7 Destroyers, 13 Frigates, 2 Assault/Helicopter Carriers, 2 Assault/Command Ships, 3 RFA Landing Ships, 3 Survey ships, 1 Ice Patrol Ship, 4 Patrol Ships, 15 Minehunters, 10 Royal Fleet Auxiliary

Fighter Aircraft: 130

15 posted on 01/12/2013 4:38:21 PM PST by SkyPilot
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To: ken5050

The Argentine military is a disastrous joke compared to 1982, too. Despite all their bluster, they haven’t funded their military in the last 30 years. Most of their aircraft (which are still A-4s, amazingly) are unflyable.

16 posted on 01/12/2013 4:38:57 PM PST by Strategerist
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks Sub-Driver.

17 posted on 01/12/2013 5:04:24 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: ansel12

1 helicopter carrier 5 Destroyers, 13 frigates, 6 fleet subs.

THAT is the entire Royal Navy today. It is a pale shadow of what they were incapable of offensive power. There are no Harriers at all anymore. They have NO heavy bombers,,period.
They have the ability to shoot a few cruise missiles at the mainland. And also all out nuclear war.
But they have Typhoons and thats about it. They are restricted to one base they can fly from. And at max range they can annoy the argentine mainland, but accomplish little.
The British soldier is pretty good, but his nation is incapable of a repeat of the early 80s.

They couldn’t even maintain an air interdiction effort over Libya, from well established NATO bases without us doing it for them. Realistically, the British are only invlved in any of our wars because it’s a way for them to have some political say, and to insert Officers into cool career enhancing jobs.

They literally have more generals than they do tanks now.

18 posted on 01/12/2013 5:12:29 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: Natufian

There are 4 typhoons in the Falklands, at one base. The Argies could open festivities at 4am some morning and wipe out the fighter fleet with sub launched Commandos, or a sub launched cruise missile or two.

Then speaking of Subs, they use the extremely silent German 209. Even nuke attack subs play sheer hell trying to find those in waters such as those in the Falklands Archipeligo.
And the Argie ships, A-4s and mirages carry exocets still.

It wouldn’t be the cakewalk the anglophiles think it would be.
The Brits could likely hold the islands, because it would be just as hard for the Argies to move in force to the island. But the Brits would suffer some nasty losses. Realistically they cannot project power much better than the Argies, especially down there. So the stalemate would contine.

The real nightmare is that the political situation has changed in south America. Brazil and other south Americans might ally with Argentina if that Argentine woman can cast this as Europeans against poor south America. And Obama would never help England. He hates them as much as he does us.
It could all get really weird.

19 posted on 01/12/2013 5:34:49 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: DesertRhino

Argentina is in even worse condition. Half of its pilots have lost their pilot’s licenses, because they cannot log enough flight time to maintain their pilot’s licenses. The Navy has only about 16 warships that are in a state of combat reeadiness out of some 60 ships. The Army is worse still.

20 posted on 01/12/2013 5:38:13 PM PST by WhiskeyX
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