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Hundreds of French troops drive back Mali rebels
Yahoo News ^ | January 12, 2013 | Rukmini Callimachi

Posted on 01/12/2013 10:43:25 AM PST by JerseyanExile

Edited on 01/12/2013 1:15:44 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

The battle to retake Mali's north from the al-Qaida-linked groups controlling it began in earnest Saturday, after hundreds of French forces deployed to the country and began aerial bombardments to drive back the Islamic extremists from a town seized earlier this week.


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1 posted on 01/12/2013 10:43:33 AM PST by JerseyanExile
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To: JerseyanExile
Turbaned fighters now control all the major northern cities, carrying out beatings, floggings and amputations in public squares just as the Taliban did.

Mali -- the next Afghanistan???

2 posted on 01/12/2013 10:53:03 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: JerseyanExile

If you are trading copters for pickup trucks, you aren’t using enough firepower.


3 posted on 01/12/2013 10:57:39 AM PST by PAR35
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To: Uncle Chip
The Islamist insurrection in Mali is a direct consequence of Obama's decision to overthrow Muammar Gaddafi.
4 posted on 01/12/2013 11:01:53 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
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To: Mr. Jeeves

The Ring of Fire = where ever Islam borders the sane world.


5 posted on 01/12/2013 11:03:18 AM PST by aimhigh ( Guns do not kill people. Planned Parenthood kills people.)
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To: JerseyanExile

So the French are getting tough even as we surrender?

Never thought I’d see the day...


6 posted on 01/12/2013 11:24:53 AM PST by Tzimisce (The American Revolution began when the British attempted to disarm the Colonists.)
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To: JerseyanExile

Nous vous saluons, la France!


7 posted on 01/12/2013 11:37:44 AM PST by stboz
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To: Tzimisce

“So the French are getting tough even as we surrender?”

The French have been getting tough in Africa for decades. It’s part of their colonial legacy and happen mostly in their old colonies to which they have banking and trade interests. Remember the French interventions in Ivory Coast, Chad, Djibouti and libya, not to mention Algeria, which is a different kind of animal. I think they’ve also rescued hostages in Somalia.

What makes this Mali intervention interesting to me is that it mirrors the fight against Al-Shabaab in Somalia on the other side of the continent, except that the French are intervening directly instead of supporting proxies. Things were crumbling pretty badly.


8 posted on 01/12/2013 12:28:32 PM PST by Owl558 ("Those who remember George Satayana are doomed to repeat him")
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To: Owl558

It’s worth noting that the militia in Mali that is fighting the French obtained some of their weapons from the Steven’s operation at Benghazi.


9 posted on 01/12/2013 1:40:32 PM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Southack

What does Hillary know, and when did she know it?


10 posted on 01/12/2013 2:15:58 PM PST by codder too
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To: JerseyanExile

Now to take back suburban Paris.


11 posted on 01/12/2013 2:16:13 PM PST by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: Mr. Jeeves

I wonder what will be the direct consequences of whatever idiotic decision he makes with regards to Syria. Either way, it’ll be idiotic, and you’ll watch it on TV or the Internet. I’ll hear the explosions’ vibrations through the ground.


12 posted on 01/12/2013 2:20:30 PM PST by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: Owl558

It is also a strange contrast to France’s role in Syria, where they are supporting Islamist rebels to overthrow a government.


13 posted on 01/12/2013 2:20:59 PM PST by BlackVeil
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To: Mr. Jeeves

MrJ, they told us that the overthrow of Gaddafi was for freedom and democracy ... would they lie??? Those rebels aren’t murdering scum are they? ...


14 posted on 01/12/2013 2:25:03 PM PST by BlackVeil
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To: Southack
"It’s worth noting that the militia in Mali that is fighting the French obtained some of their weapons from the Steven’s operation at Benghazi."

That's my suspicion, as well. So, in a sense, the French are fighting Obama's effort to spread transnational Islamist rule throughout North Africa.

15 posted on 01/12/2013 3:46:51 PM PST by Truth29
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To: Truth29

Not just *any* French...Hollande is a socialist.


16 posted on 01/12/2013 3:53:31 PM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: JerseyanExile

Driving them back doesn’t cure the problem. They need the French version of the Roach Motel - Islamists go in, but they don’t come out.


17 posted on 01/12/2013 5:30:53 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Southack

And all the gun-control talk has driven Benghazi, along with all of Obama’s failures, out of the news cycle and out of the minds of the voters.


18 posted on 01/12/2013 5:49:59 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: JerseyanExile

Send in the FFL if France wants to win.


19 posted on 01/12/2013 6:35:08 PM PST by dynachrome (Vertrou in God en die Mauser)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks JerseyanExile.

African states ready troops as France bombs Mali rebels
By Bate Felix and John Irish
http://www.newsdaily.com/stories/bre90912q-us-mali-rebels/

France continues Mali strikes, sends troops to Bamako
By John Irish
http://www.newsdaily.com/stories/bre90b08n-us-mali-rebels-ledrian/

West Africa’s ECOWAS to send troops to retake north Mali
http://www.newsdaily.com/stories/bre90b06w-us-mali-rebels-ecowas/

sidebars:

France believes hostage killed in Somalia rescue bid
By John Irish and Abdi Sheikh
http://www.newsdaily.com/stories/bre90b06h-us-somalia-france-hostage/

Central African Republic signs peace deal with rebels
By Jean Rovys Dabany
http://www.newsdaily.com/stories/bre90a0nr-us-car-rebels/


20 posted on 01/12/2013 7:06:42 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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Mali: France pointed against al-Qaeda

Mali: France pointed against al-Qaeda | Le Figaro | September 24, 2012 | Isabelle Lasserre | Posted on 09/26/2012 9:55:01 AM PDT by JerseyanExile

21 posted on 01/12/2013 7:11:01 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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A map of the Sahel region showing where Al Qaeda operates (AFP/Graphic)

A map of the Sahel region showing where Al Qaeda operates (AFP/Graphic)

22 posted on 01/12/2013 7:11:55 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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23 posted on 01/12/2013 7:12:08 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: Cincinna

sorry, I forgot to ping ya!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2977454/posts?page=21#21


24 posted on 01/12/2013 7:14:06 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: JerseyanExile

What a peaceful world we live in. The French are back fighting in Africa. The British are developing war plans for the Falklands. Atlanta has to have the police patrol in armored cars.


25 posted on 01/12/2013 7:14:38 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: blueunicorn6

meanwhile leftists continue attacks on the foundations of civilization


26 posted on 01/12/2013 7:17:00 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: JerseyanExile

Assayons!


27 posted on 01/12/2013 7:26:39 PM PST by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: Uncle Chip

Al Qaeda/Taliban operate the same way in every country they subvert.

However, Mali is quite different from Afghanistan in geography. Afghanistan is a country made up of small cities/towns and homesteads in mountain valleys and at a few crossroads. Without aircraft, fighting the jihadists is a long slugfest.

However, in Mali, as in the Saharan fight between Morocco and the leftist Polisario, there were few major bases involved and attacks were made by truck convoys (Polisario). When they were caught in the open by the Moroccan (and/or French Air Force), they were decimated, and a hundreds of miles long bern wall stopped them from raiding Moroccan army camps and cities.

Mali looks like the place where airpower, by the French, will be the weapon with which to cripple AQIM armed convoys, and then hit their supply depots, communications and control centers, and to cut them off from reinforcements from other towns/bases. (Already happening according to new reports).

The only thing missing is, besides what one poster suggested, i.e. a Spectre gunship(s) is napalm. It is the best weapon for taking out a truck convoy which usually travels single-file across the desert. You can run but you can’t hide or even outrun a jet filled with the good stuff.

Helicopter gunships are good if you have enough, with rockets and heavy machineguns. Sending in a handful to a battle is not combat efficiency. If you are going to destroy the enemy in the field, you make sure that you have enough choppers and planes to do it right the first time.

You hit them “high and low”, high being bombers and mid-altitude strafing by jets and light bombers, while “low” means helicopters and/or an equivalent of the A10 Warthog.

Spectres are both mid-level and high level fighting machines, depending on whether you are using miniguns or the 105MM cannons.

I hope the French don’t have “rules of engagement” for desert fighting. You fight to win, not gain a draw.


28 posted on 01/12/2013 9:57:11 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: JerseyanExile; Southack; Cindy

It’s not just Obama’s foreign policy blunders. Perhaps Mali is reaping a little of what the Clinton era sowed in Africa as well :

DECEMBER 1999 : (USAID TERMINATES IARA PROJECT AGREEMENTS IN MALI-— see IARA, COLUMBIA MO CELL, SILJANDER, MALI, IRAQ, TERROR CHARITIES) IARA, Hamed and Bagegni had previously entered into a series of agreements with USAID for relief projects in Mali, Africa. When USAID terminated those agreements in December 1999, the amount of money involved totaled approximately $2 million. IARA had allegedly failed to fully fund the matching contributions required to receive USAID funds. After the termination of these agreements, the indictment alleges, IARA, Hamed and Bagegni, without authorization, retained approximately $84,922 of USAID money and failed to return the funds to USAID as called for by the agreements.
———Islamic Charity Charged with Terrorist Financing; Former U.S. Congressman Indicted for Money Laundering, January 16, 2008 http://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/2008/January/08_nsd_029.html
6 posted on Wednesday, June 30, 2010 4:14:53 AM by Cindy | To 4


29 posted on 01/13/2013 12:36:10 AM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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The above link also includes a Republican congresscritter and his involvement with IARA.


30 posted on 01/13/2013 12:38:13 AM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: piasa

2003 + 2004 : (IARA AIDS GULBUDDIN HEKMATYAR) IARA and [Mubarak] Hamed [of Columbia MO] knowingly and willfully engaged in financial transactions for the benefit of Hekmatyar’s organization by sending approximately $130,000 in 2003 and 2004 in numerous transactions to Islamic Relief Agency (ISRA) bank accounts in Peshawar, Pakistan, purportedly for an orphanage housed in buildings owned and controlled by Hekmatyar.———Islamic Charity Charged with Terrorist Financing; Former U.S. Congressman Indicted for Money Laundering, January 16, 2008 http://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/2008/January/08_nsd_029.html
6 posted on Wednesday, June 30, 2010 4:14:53 AM by Cindy | To 4


31 posted on 01/13/2013 12:41:37 AM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: SunkenCiv

Didn’t Pakistan’s nuclear scientist Qadeer Khan have a hotel in Mali?


32 posted on 01/13/2013 12:59:49 AM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: Southack; Travis McGee; Cindy

Speaking of Mali :

A London accountant has described how Pakistan’s disgraced nuclear hero Dr Abdul Qadeer Khan visited the West African state of Mali on three occasions between 1998 and 2000. Abdul Ma’bood Siddiqui accompanied A.Q. Khan on three mystery trips  between 1998 and 2000. Their final destination was Timbuktu, a remote outpost in the desert that has always been a magnet for explorers and adventurers from around the world.Siddiqui, who used to live in the Gulf until he moved to London, has told how on his vists to Timbuktu  the ‘father’ of the Pakistani bomb witnessed the digging of a well, toured an ancient Islamic library and enjoyed the views of the desert.
Despite Siddiqui’s claim that the three visits had no ulterior motive, the  qualifications of the men who accompanied Khan, including his chief scientific adviser, the head of security at the top secret Khan Research Laboratories near Islamabad and a former surgeon general of the Pakistan army, would suggest otherwise.———————— “Khan’s visit to Timbuktu was to prospect for uranium - dissident,” London |By Shyam Bhatia, Correspondent | 19-02-2004
Gulf News, Feb 19, 2004
http://article.wn.com/link/WNAT039982C35252AFDAE2D6E88A1A1896F5?source=templategenerator&template=nigerpost/mainsearch.txt


33 posted on 01/13/2013 1:02:56 AM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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Didn’t Pakistan’s nuclear scientist Qadeer Khan have a hotel in Mali?

Ha, found the reference. Yes he did... :

Pakistani dissidents for their part have told how  the real reason for Khan's visit Timbuktu was to prospect for uranium. Landlocked Mali lies adjacent to uranium-rich Niger, from where the French government obtains all the uranium it needs for its nuclear programme, and Mali also has untapped resources of the same mineral. The [Pakistani] dissidents  say Khan's subsequent purchase of the newly named Hendrina Khan  Hotel was just a cover to his real interest in the precious uranium needed for nuclear bombs. ---------------- "Khan's visit to Timbuktu was to prospect for uranium - dissident," London |By Shyam Bhatia, Correspondent | 19-02-2004 Gulf News, Feb 19, 2004 http://article.wn.com/link/WNAT039982C35252AFDAE2D6E88A1A1896F5?source=templategenerator&template=nigerpost/mainsearch.txt

34 posted on 01/13/2013 1:06:43 AM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: SunkenCiv; Cindy; Fedora
Didn’t Pakistan’s nuclear scientist Qadeer Khan have a hotel in Mali?

Ha, found the reference. Yes he did... :

Pakistani dissidents for their part have told how  the real reason for Khan's visit Timbuktu was to prospect for uranium. Landlocked Mali lies adjacent to uranium-rich Niger, from where the French government obtains all the uranium it needs for its nuclear programme, and Mali also has untapped resources of the same mineral. The [Pakistani] dissidents  say Khan's subsequent purchase of the newly named Hendrina Khan  Hotel was just a cover to his real interest in the precious uranium needed for nuclear bombs. ---------------- "Khan's visit to Timbuktu was to prospect for uranium - dissident," London |By Shyam Bhatia, Correspondent | 19-02-2004 Gulf News, Feb 19, 2004 http://article.wn.com/link/WNAT039982C35252AFDAE2D6E88A1A1896F5?source=templategenerator&template=nigerpost/mainsearch.txt

35 posted on 01/13/2013 1:07:14 AM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: piasa

Very interesting and thank you for the ping Piasa.


36 posted on 01/13/2013 1:10:40 AM PST by Cindy
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper; Cindy; Fedora; Southack
I can see why the libs really don't want Benghazi and Stevens and Mali in the news after telling us there was no way Iraq could have sought uranium in Niger :

A leading Pakistani newspaper reported today that Khan had a vast array of real estate holdings, including a hotel in Timbuktu, Mali. The News daily reported that Khan also used a military transport aircraft to ship carved wooden furniture to the hotel, which he named after his Dutch wife, Hendrina. Because the plane couldn’t land in Mali, it touched down in Tripoli, Libya, and the furniture was taken the rest of the way by road, the News said. Also along for the ride was Farooq, an expert on centrifuges – a key piece of equipment required to enrich uranium for use in weapons.-----------Scientists investigated over selling nuclear secrets, Ireland On-Line, 01/02/2004 - 15:23:37 http://breakingnews.iol.ie/news/story.asp?j=93330376&p=9333yx8z

37 posted on 01/13/2013 1:11:33 AM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: JerseyanExile; Cindy; Alamo-Girl

The controversial “father” of Pakistan’s nuclear program was in Niamey (Niger) on the very same days in which Saddam’s emissaries were present. ...
A recent intelligence lead takes us back to Niger, where Khan was a welcomed guest of the government and where his intermediaries continue to do business: the very same intermediaries who ,in 1999 made a fool of the French Secret Services charged with monitoring – through the multinational Cogema – the uranium mines from which some years before these intermediaries were able to illegally export 1,200 tons of yellow cake (yellow uranium oxide from which gas is extracted to be applied in centrifuges in order to be enriched) to Libya.
The very same Khan – according to official International Atomic Energy Agency data – bought a part of the 450 tons of (uranium) stored in Libya in exchange for arms and petrodollars to finance Islamabad’s nuclear program. ...-—— “Uranium from Niger for the Islamic Atom Bomb,” By Gian Marco Chiocci , il Giornale de Italia , Washington, November 30, 2005 (Translation by Parnasokan .Edited by poster.) ; Original text-in Italian-is at the link: http://www.ilgiornale.it/a.pic1?ID=46594


38 posted on 01/13/2013 1:21:52 AM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: Cindy

(Note : The above snippet was found by Cindy a while back and posted on FR somewhere. )


39 posted on 01/13/2013 1:23:58 AM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: mrmeangenes

Note: The above snippet was also found by FR’s mrmeangenes


40 posted on 01/13/2013 1:25:59 AM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: dynachrome

These probably were. Notice “Special Forces”? There ain’t too many other SF’s in France that I’m aware of.


41 posted on 01/13/2013 2:20:28 AM PST by Safetgiver ( Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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To: JerseyanExile

Odd how they didn’t ask the UN for permission.


42 posted on 01/13/2013 8:30:17 AM PST by KantianBurke (Where was the Tea Party when Dubya was spending like a drunken sailor?)
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To: piasa

Thanks piasa!


43 posted on 01/13/2013 9:52:22 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: BlackVeil

“It is also a strange contrast to France’s role in Syria...”

True for all the west. Acting so contrary to our collective national interests is not going to end well.


44 posted on 01/13/2013 12:33:43 PM PST by Owl558 ("Those who remember George Satayana are doomed to repeat him")
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To: piasa

Thanks for the Khan observation.

Al Qaeda’s African strategy has always been part of a broader geopolitical strategy supported by their state sponsors in the Middle East and elsewhere (including Iran), geared towards gaining a land foothold for control of the key naval shipping routes in the region. Reviewing the Nazi strategy in North Africa and the Soviet strategy during the Algerian independence movement is instructive for interpreting the strategic significance of the recent agitations in Egypt, Libya, Mali, etc.


45 posted on 01/13/2013 2:51:16 PM PST by Fedora
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To: piasa

Thanks for the ping!


46 posted on 01/13/2013 7:49:10 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl; Cindy; Fedora; SunkenCiv; Southack

NOVEMBER 16, 2009 MON : (REPORT : VENEZUELAN PLANE LOADED WITH COCAINE CRASHES IN N. MALI, AFRICA)A Boeing plane that used to transport cocaine from Venezuela to West Africa crashed in northern Mali earlier this month after a failed take-off, the representative of the UN’s regional office on drugs and crime said Monday. -———Venezuelan drugs Boeing crashed in Mali: UNafp ^ | 11/16/09 MON


47 posted on 01/13/2013 9:41:23 PM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: piasa

Thanks for that information!


48 posted on 01/13/2013 9:45:01 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Mr. Jeeves

absolutely correct


49 posted on 01/14/2013 3:24:40 AM PST by Cronos (Middle English prest, priest, Old English pruost, Late Latin presbyter, Latin presbuteros)
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To: aimhigh

well in fairness in Mali it is really Moslems against Moslems


50 posted on 01/14/2013 3:25:36 AM PST by Cronos (Middle English prest, priest, Old English pruost, Late Latin presbyter, Latin presbuteros)
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