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Is Obama Setting the Stage to Seize the Power of the Purse?
White House Dossier ^ | January 11, 2013, 6:07 pm | Keith Koffler

Posted on 01/11/2013 8:29:38 PM PST by Hoodat

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To: Hoodat

Well good.

Then Obama will be singularly responsible in the annals of history for a big downgrade in the US credit rating and the big upspike in interest rates.

Go ahead, Bambi. Do it.


41 posted on 01/12/2013 5:47:11 AM PST by OpusatFR
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To: doc1019

he has not been reinaugurated


42 posted on 01/12/2013 5:50:32 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 .....The fairest Deduction to be reduced is the Standard Deduction)
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To: Hoodat

“What recourse do we as citizens have if Obama, Geithner, and Bernanke do this? When this happens, our Republic will officially be dead. “

We could switch to cash only transactions and only with cash that has a 2012 or earlier date of issue.


43 posted on 01/12/2013 5:52:53 AM PST by staytrue
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To: Hoodat

Unless we put 5 million on the mall in dc soon ObamaDoc will do absolutely anything.


44 posted on 01/12/2013 5:56:05 AM PST by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: Hoodat

Actually, I should amend that to we voluntarily use only cash that predates 2013, we refuse all cash dated 2013 and after.

Furthermore, we have a central clearing organization like paypal that will do digital money transfers but only to and from accounts that have been certified balances as of 2013 and only those balances will be recognized as valid.

What we will need to do is refuse to accept post 2013 newly issued money by the govt.

The govt. can print all it likes, if we refuse to honor it what are they going to do ?

And actually, this is exactly what happens in a classic currency collapse, the public refuses to deal in it or trade in it. They will barter, use gold or a stable foreign currency.

The only difference this time is that we will be refusing only newly minted money instead of all money.


45 posted on 01/12/2013 6:01:12 AM PST by staytrue
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To: doc1019

Would have sure thought your Governor did, but then he didn’t say a peep about the blatant vote fraud in Ohio.

Lucky for us Texans our Governor and his underlings are true Texans in mind and spitit and will not put with any unconstitutional BS from nobama or the dem/libs.


46 posted on 01/12/2013 6:11:03 AM PST by X-spurt (Republic of Texas, Come and Take It!)
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To: Hoodat

In my opinion, the scariest thing Obama has ever done is sign an order giving himself secret service protection for life. That tells me a whole lot right there. He has plans and they aren’t going to be good for this country and he’s getting bolder by the day about airing them because it is clear to one and all, and accepted by the left, that the media will not challenge him but instead, excuse him and give him cover. The world won’t get the truth from the U.S. media, so we have already sunk to that level. It is about to get “every man for himself” serious.


47 posted on 01/12/2013 6:17:03 AM PST by austinaero
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To: staytrue

The fallacy in your argument is that there is no difference between the bills. The paper currency is but a stand in for electronic blips on a digital ledger. There is no difference between one blip and another.

All money is actually ledger entries, zaps on an electronic storage medium. The plastic of a credit card, or debit card or EBT card more nearly represents true money because it is direct. The plastic directly accesses the ledger.

The paper currency is several steps away from the ledger. For most people today, there is no need for actual paper money. Some form of plastic is easier and cleaner and more expedient than paper or intrinsically valueless metal coins.


48 posted on 01/12/2013 6:17:03 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 .....The fairest Deduction to be reduced is the Standard Deduction)
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To: lucky american

“and the biggest reason will be,,,, ta da,,,,No one listens to us.”

That’s the media causing some of this. They downplay ANY show of disagreement, perpetuate lies and then feed off each other’s lies and months later claim they “made a mistake” in the wording. The down play any opposition to the King and kiss his ass unapologetically and loudly. They have no shame in doing so. The King knows it and they know it and the rest of us don’t matter. The media is who gets people elected and the abuse of media power rises above what King Obama has done. To me, that’s where the biggest share of the blame should fall. I love hearing that the NYT is laying off MORE people and we all know the reason they give, it’s the same exact reason for the last 10 layoffs, less advertisers in print, yah yah,,not less subscribers, less advertisers. The NYT lies like the rest of the media. Time Mag laying off people,,yessss!!!!! Makes my day.


49 posted on 01/12/2013 6:22:46 AM PST by austinaero
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To: austinaero

More than the power of a gun, which we all have every right to, the Citizen Media is going to be who we will need to look at to help us band together. After the gun restrictions/bans are passed, next King Obama will be controlling the internet. Everyone needs to join a local militia or group and start working out communications for that eventuality NOW, not then. Just my opinion. It’s not panic, it’s common sense and clear as a bell observation.


50 posted on 01/12/2013 6:25:08 AM PST by austinaero
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To: Hoodat
Time is not on our side. The erosion of the Constitution as the primary law of governance is occurring at warp speed. We have been engaged in a struggle to stop this erosion for years. Now, the 2012 election has exposed Democrat vote buying through entitlements, unprecedented voter ignorance, government worker union campaign money laundering and a personal smear based campaign supported by the media. If we measure our response to this fatal injury to our way of life in years or generations we will fail. Tyranny and the destruction of freedom is here now. We need to March on Washington now. We need cut off the money to Obama now. Change your deductions on your taxes now. Civil protest has to be so overwhelming that the public will want to learn the truth about the very dangerous Constitutional crisis occurring now. .
51 posted on 01/12/2013 7:28:14 AM PST by Postnbeam (Time is not on our side.)
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To: Hoodat

“The White House may craftily be laying the groundwork for a massive and thoroughly unconstitutional seizure of power from Congress.”


Laying the groundwork? The senate WANTS him to take the power of the purse from congress. The senate is BEGGING him to do it.


52 posted on 01/12/2013 7:51:15 AM PST by chessplayer
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To: austinaero

He didn’t do that himself.

It’s a result of a bill introduced by Rep Trey Gowdy (R) of South Carolina.

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/obama-signs-law-giving-himself-bush-lifetime-secret-184305122—politics.html


53 posted on 01/12/2013 8:25:28 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: chris37

A friend of mine recently said to me “obama has a spell over this country”. Ain’t it the truth.


54 posted on 01/12/2013 9:17:48 AM PST by Terry Mross (People who hate me read my posts and get angry. Yet they can't look away. Brilliant, huh.)
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To: austinaero

So, do you think he’ll declare martial law in 2016 and remain in office with help from the Secret Service?


55 posted on 01/12/2013 9:26:56 AM PST by Terry Mross (People who hate me read my posts and get angry. Yet they can't look away. Brilliant, huh.)
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To: Texas resident

[[or it might be the case that in 2016 America will be sufficiently pissed off to get out the vote to oust democrats from top to bottom.]]

I beleive cuomo is settign hte stage to make a run for the presidency, and he’s one of the biggest ‘give them free stuff to keep them quiet’ liberals around and this generation mos likely will elect him judgign by the voter’s last actions. AMERIca spoke loud and clear this last election- they would rather lose their freedoms than to stand up for them if it means they can ‘git sumthin’ from the gub-mint’- America proved she now loves sin and criminality more than truth and justice- As soemoen said, unemployement has becoem the new welfare check- and it’s true and once peopel have becoem used to gettign soemthign for nothing, there isn’t anythign that will get them out of this mentality- We see the effects in greece, spain, france- socialism destroys people’s incentives- it kills their will, and annihilates their self esteme and drive-

[[But the realitiy is that here we are in a crappy situation. That is our here and now. We have to live our lives and work to bring our country back no matter how long that will take.]]

Very true- I just fear however, that there is just way too much apathy for htis coutnry to defend itself agaisnt a rogue government and too much greed for peopel to lift a figner to keep their rights anyl onger-


56 posted on 01/12/2013 9:36:10 AM PST by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: ducttape45

If Obama keeps using the EO to pass policy,


It’s not EO anymore. It’s Royal Decree.


57 posted on 01/12/2013 9:45:43 AM PST by chessplayer
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To: chessplayer
Good point. I stand corrected.

:-(

58 posted on 01/12/2013 10:10:37 AM PST by ducttape45 (Can you tell I'm angry?)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Even the Demagogic Party jackoffs in Congress would immediately call for impeachment, and Zero would either back down, or call for “demonstrations” by his racist followers — which means, all of his supporters, since all of them are by definition racist.


59 posted on 01/12/2013 10:15:42 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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No clear path for Obama to act alone on U.S. debt cap: experts
By Jessica Dye and Rachelle Younglai
Posted 2013/01/12 at 1:04 am EST
http://www.newsdaily.com/stories/bre90b04z-us-usa-fiscal-constitution/


60 posted on 01/12/2013 10:24:47 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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