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Joltin' Joe strikes again
1 posted on 01/10/2013 1:01:46 PM PST by Nachum
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Checks on private sales means that when the jackboots come to collect your gun you could no longer plausibly say that it was sold to a private party. It makes registration and confiscation a real possibility.


27 posted on 01/10/2013 1:57:26 PM PST by Brooklyn Attitude (Obama being re-elected is the political equivalent of OJ being found not guilty.)
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How long does the federal government retain records of background checks?

How long does the federal government require that firearms dealers retain records of background checks.

Is there a difference in the length of time that they can be legally retained vs. How long they really are retained?

Is there some back door method in which data is moved into a different database to skirt retention laws?

I'm thinking that the goal of this is defacto gun registration of ALL gun sales.

29 posted on 01/10/2013 1:58:39 PM PST by Washi (Socialism is Slavery)
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How would they know?


32 posted on 01/10/2013 2:14:58 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (TYRANNY: When the people fear the politicians. LIBERTY: When the politicians fear the people.)
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“No Guns for Negroes” video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nckgyfGbdnU


39 posted on 01/10/2013 2:58:44 PM PST by LZ_Bayonet ( I AM THE TEA PARTY LEADER !)
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I think what they will try and do is change the way 4473 forms are handled.

Right now the forms have to be kept by FFLs for 20 years before they can be destroyed and the government only has access to them as part of criminal investigations.

However, if the FFL goes out of business, the FFL has to turn the forms over to the feds immediately. A lot of people don't know that.

IMHO they will try and make a play to put all these forms into a government database “for the sake of our children”.

Since private sales skirt the form 4473, they will first focus on private sales.

41 posted on 01/10/2013 3:18:49 PM PST by Gabrial (The nightmare will continue as long as the nightmare is in the Whitehouse.)
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Biden is an enemy of the people.


43 posted on 01/10/2013 3:24:22 PM PST by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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Good luck Joe. What part of private sale did you not understand ? Nobody knows about it moron.


46 posted on 01/10/2013 3:37:34 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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Joe, we will not comply. Go pound it.


47 posted on 01/10/2013 3:38:30 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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The *only* way private gun sales can be regulated is that if *both* the seller and the buyer, *and* the gun, are registered with the government.

And I don’t mean just a background check where the government either requires gun sellers to preserve all the information so it can be obtained at government request; or conveniently “forgets” to not destroy the information when it is supposed to.

I’m talking full registration.


49 posted on 01/10/2013 3:49:59 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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This piece of crap Obama wants to ban guns with executive orders and so he sends out his clown to take heat for it. coward and a piece of crap too.
52 posted on 01/10/2013 5:23:09 PM PST by Democrat_media (media makes mass shooters household names to create more & take our guns)
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Think you’re gonna do that Joe? “Shall not be infringed” means just that. Brain damaged plug infested moron.


53 posted on 01/10/2013 5:27:28 PM PST by SoFloFreeper
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All private gun sales in California must go through an FFL. 10 day wait and background check. It hasn’t done squat to reduce crime. In fact, I guarantee it has gotten people (most likely women) killed because there is no legal way for the average citizen to get a gun without the 10 day wait.


58 posted on 01/10/2013 6:55:37 PM PST by barefoot_hiker
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Vice President Joe Biden, in remarks today before a meeting on guns, suggested the Obama administration is seriously considering outlawing unregulated "private" gun sales:"

The low information vice-president will need to explain how the president can accomplish this.

66 posted on 01/10/2013 7:22:16 PM PST by Mike Darancette (LIM=Low Information Media)
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..closed door meeting on gun-control...

So much for transparency...Npt that I was expecting it...

I guess they believe that a lightning attack (infringements) on our right to keep and bear arms per that pesky document and its Second Amendment will go over better if the people don’t see it coming in time...

Hehehe, another poor assumption on their part...They already know it’s coming, and they might as well play it out, they believe they can weather the storm...


73 posted on 01/11/2013 7:02:53 PM PST by stevie_d_64 (It's not the color of one's skin that offends people...it's how thin it is.)
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