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When Do Too Many Mass Murder Shootings Defy Probability and Bring Out the Conspiracy Theorists?
Freeper Editorial | 10 Jan 13 | Xzins

Posted on 01/10/2013 11:56:19 AM PST by xzins

I remember on September 11, 2001 getting ready for work and hearing on Fox, which I kept on almost all the time, that a plane had flown into one of the towers of the World Trade Center.

I began watching the coverage, and I saw with my own eyes the 2nd plane fly into the 2nd tower. Although not an intel analyst, nor the son of one, I immediately said to myself that this was no coincidence, that it was a coordinated effort.

I didn't need the Pentagon plane or Flight 93 crashing in a Pennsylvania field to do more than underscore what I already knew in my gut.

I am very suspicious right now regarding too many mass murder shootings.. Especially, my suspicions runneth over regarding my government.

If "Fast and Furious" taught me anything, it taught me that my current U.S. government will knowingly run an illegal, covert gun operation that kills hundreds of Mexicans south of the border, and even some Americans on our own side. Fast and Furious taught me that my government will commit clandestine murder purely and intentionally in order to attack gun sales and gun ownership.

What this means is that my government is rabid -- beyond obsessed -- about grabbing our guns.

This very same government's current gun control schemes will be injured if "too much" time passes after the Sandy Hook shootings, and people have time to process their rights absent media hysteria.

In other words, my gun-grabbing government NEEDS gun incidents and anti-gun hysterics to remain in the spotlight in the media.

“Crazy! That is absolutely paranoid, conspiratorial CRAZY!” most would say to me (as I’m saying it to myself…) Crazy is definitely the right word. Because that’s the MO for the shooters who are gunning down everyone from school kids to theater attendees. We’re told they’re crazy, nuts, needing psychometric medication, off their rocker, lunatics and suicidists. Crazy is as crazy does.

However, it took only 2 planes on 9/11. At that point, I knew something was up. How many public shootings in a relatively compact timeframe before I'm convinced that we are somehow defying probability?

Have you ever wondered how the Islamic Jihadists recruit their bomb vest volunteers? I’m betting they don’t run ads in the newspapers or on Al-Jazeera.


TOPICS: FReeper Editorial
KEYWORDS: banglist; conspiracy; gungrabbers; guns; vanity
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To: xzins

Yes, there is mass hysteria, and sometimes FR readers have it too.

There is no conspiracy. There are a lot of copycat mental cases who see the news and the attention given to the murderers, and say “I’ll show em.”

The government is opportunistic but they don’t plan and plot these things.


21 posted on 01/10/2013 12:37:51 PM PST by I want the USA back
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To: RoosterRedux
Now what does any sane person believe would be required to accomplish that?

I'm not qualified to begin to answer that question. But I'd like to hear from more sane persons about the subject.
22 posted on 01/10/2013 12:38:18 PM PST by Resettozero
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To: xzins
However, it took only 2 planes on 9/11. At that point, I knew something was up.
Oh yeah, 911, an "inside job." Oy.
Article asks a few good questions but leans too strong on the conspiracy side of things.
Some of the (original) commenters are whacked too.
23 posted on 01/10/2013 12:40:44 PM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: null and void
As far as some of the poo-poo artists on FR are concerned...

This reminds me of many years ago when my baby son opened his diaper and started drawing on the wall.
24 posted on 01/10/2013 12:41:25 PM PST by Resettozero
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To: sickoflibs

Huh? Is this something you made up or is there a rock solid source for that?


25 posted on 01/10/2013 12:42:40 PM PST by dsrtsage (One half of all people have below average IQ. In the US the number is 54%)
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To: sickoflibs
Sickoflibs, we need a source for that, even if it's just the Wayback Machine. If you're going to post stuff, outrageous stuff, that can't factually be backed up, don't bother posting...at least here.

We do not need the DBM and other mentally deficient leftists pointing to stuff like this, saying we're the ones America should be afraid of.

Never give the sons of bitches an opening, especially like that.

Just a heads-up, FRiend!

CA....

26 posted on 01/10/2013 12:51:13 PM PST by Chances Are (Seems I've found that silly grin again....)
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To: I want the USA back
The government is opportunistic but they don’t plan and plot these things.

Did they "plan and plot" Fast and Furious?

CA....

27 posted on 01/10/2013 12:55:13 PM PST by Chances Are (Seems I've found that silly grin again....)
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To: xzins

****In other words, my gun-grabbing government NEEDS gun incidents and anti-gun hysterics to remain in the spotlight in the media****

I still remember when California prepared a gun ban list, then set it aside. They then released seven time inmate of mental institutions, Pat Purdy onto the Public.

Allowed him to buy a handgun in Cali, even passed the waiting period.

Then bought a rifle in Oregon, went to the Stockton School yard and opened fire.

Then the anti-gun bill was quickly brought out and passed before the blood was even dry in the school yard.


28 posted on 01/10/2013 12:57:32 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Click my name! See new paintings!)
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To: null and void

Some more conspiracy theory here: http://www.naturalnews.com/038616_John_Noveske_mysterious_death_car_crash.html


29 posted on 01/10/2013 1:02:00 PM PST by csmusaret (I will give Obama credit for one thing- he is living proof that familiarity breeds contempt.)
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To: xzins
When Do Too Many Mass Murder Shootings Defy Probability and Bring Out the Conspiracy Theorists?

Knowing what we know about Fast and Furious...I'm already there.

30 posted on 01/10/2013 1:05:20 PM PST by pgkdan ( "Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not." ~Thomas Jefferson)
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To: xzins

Do you think the govt needed Muslim terrorists too?


31 posted on 01/10/2013 1:07:33 PM PST by stuartcr ("I upraded my moral compass to a GPS, to keep up with the times.")
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To: dsrtsage; Chances Are
RE :”Huh? Is this something you made up or is there a rock solid source for that?”

Sorry, my mistake, it was not their website but a google search response of their website's Newtown shooting charity fund page

Google search stuck the date “Dec. 11, 2012” on the listing for the condolence statement by united way. You can find a few of these with google:

United Way: No, we didn’t know about Dec. 14 Sandy Hook shooting in advance

In my last comment I was hinting it was just a typo that sent the CTers into a tizzy, pretty funny I think

I dont expect a comment like that of mine to be cited on MSNBC anytime soon, they got plenty of elected nutbags in the GOP to keep them busy for ever.

32 posted on 01/10/2013 1:14:31 PM PST by sickoflibs (Losing to O is NO principle!)
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To: Chances Are
RE :”...don't bother posting...at least here....Just a heads-up, FRiend!”

LOL, Dont let your head explode bro!

You should see my real satire posts. I dont as rule label them </sarc> either, that ruins the fun.

33 posted on 01/10/2013 1:17:56 PM PST by sickoflibs (Losing to O is NO principle!)
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To: xzins

No they don’t. Dems view unborn as “property” of the mother to do as she wishes. They believe in the right of a mother to be able to murder their unborn. Allowing someone to murder is not the same as hoping they actually do it. I know what you meant but let’s not squander the high ground with sloppy language.


34 posted on 01/10/2013 1:25:18 PM PST by plain talk
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To: xzins

SIGNS SIGNS, CLUES CLUES, if you see a “lit” fuse, you know something is up. You see “camouflage” or “tactical” clothing where it does not belong, be wary, say something to somebody. People with cockeyed fantasies display a pattern of sort, they are abnormal, either downscale or upscale, extra introverted or extra extroverted. Their eyes are a dead giveaway. Hoarding, cruelty, survivalist, deep end, sadistic, overreaction, unconcern and uncommon interests. All of these are “keys” to a social misfit or a genius.


35 posted on 01/10/2013 1:27:45 PM PST by Gertie
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To: sickoflibs

>>In my last comment I was hinting it was just a typo that sent the CTers into a tizzy, pretty funny I think.<<

A server typo? Pretty funny I think.


36 posted on 01/10/2013 1:45:43 PM PST by ILS21R (Everything is a conspiracy. No? You're living in one.)
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To: I want the USA back
The government is opportunistic but they don’t plan and plot these things.

Plan? No that they don't.

They do do everything they can to set the stage, place the actors, promote the performance, sell the tickets, and pop the popcorn.

And when the performance "inevitably" happens, they just happen to have the legislation already written and ready to pass and be signed into law, why, you don't even need to read it before you vote on it!

Curiously enough, the prepackaged legislation never increases freedom, never reduces taxes, never eliminates regulations.

But plan a given individual event, no, they don't do that, do they?...

37 posted on 01/10/2013 1:50:48 PM PST by null and void (Soap box. Ballot box. Jury box. We're just two boxes away from freedom...)
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To: Gertie
SIGNS SIGNS, CLUES CLUES, if you see a “lit” fuse, you know something is up. You see “camouflage” or “tactical” clothing where it does not belong, be wary, say something to somebody. People with cockeyed fantasies display a pattern of sort, they are abnormal, either downscale or upscale, extra introverted or extra extroverted. Their eyes are a dead giveaway. Hoarding, cruelty, survivalist, deep end, sadistic, overreaction, unconcern and uncommon interests. All of these are “keys” to a social misfit or a genius.

That settles it. I for sure do not know what we are talking about.
38 posted on 01/10/2013 1:55:38 PM PST by Resettozero
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To: plain talk
Dems view unborn as “property” of the mother to do as she wishes.

Property? You mean like slaves are property?

Some things never really do change do they?

39 posted on 01/10/2013 1:55:48 PM PST by null and void (Soap box. Ballot box. Jury box. We're just two boxes away from freedom...)
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To: xzins

Sorry but I am getting to be one of those also. Too much of a coincidence to be such a cookie cutter approach. Too much filtering and coming up with the same thing each time.

I do not trust this communist that wants to destroy this country and he will do anything he can to further it.

Fast & Furious, Benghazi, etc.

Hell, even the Capt of the Steve Irwin intntionally scuttled a damaged boat to build community support for his efforts. Libs have been faking stufff ofr a long time (Dan Rather and the history of ABCCBSNBC)


40 posted on 01/10/2013 2:04:31 PM PST by dirtymac (Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country.)
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