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1 posted on 01/10/2013 5:15:06 AM PST by TurboZamboni
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Dropping private insurance is one of the most important things to Obama and he is happily skipping along to accomplish that.


2 posted on 01/10/2013 5:17:04 AM PST by austinaero
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RE :”Before he was elected, Mr. Obama promised a $2,500 reduction in family premiums in his first term, but premiums went up by $3.065. “

That is because up till 2013 the bill forced insurers to pay for lots of freebees, which it turns out where not free at all, on top of rising costs that were expected anyway.

But the real test will be when Dem states set-up those exchanges, or let the Feds do it. Then we will see what the care is like and how much it costs.

Someone should keep track of all employers who reduce employees hours due to this

4 posted on 01/10/2013 5:29:23 AM PST by sickoflibs (Losing to O is NO principle!)
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Just keep fighting your local medico and make it as difficult as you can on them to implement this bs.

I hate it but I am not the one who made MY dr. the tip of THEIR spear....


6 posted on 01/10/2013 5:34:10 AM PST by Adder (No, Mr. Franklin, we could NOT keep it.)
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obamacare was never about care.
It is about control.
Dim party is now the cpusa.
Look at their actions.


7 posted on 01/10/2013 5:35:21 AM PST by Texas resident
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In the long run, private employers should be out of the health insurance business, and they will be.

May as well think about how to make lemonade out of this:

Everyone will pay for poor socialized medicine, but if you actually want to have care that is acceptable to you, you’ll have to pay cash for private care, assuming it will be legal to do so.

Private care on a cash basis will be functional, efficient care. All the non-payers will be shifted to the public health system, and a lot of them will die through denial and delay of care. But that’s what America voted for.


8 posted on 01/10/2013 5:45:08 AM PST by RFEngineer
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IOW, the exact opposite of what Obama claimed. Great country.


9 posted on 01/10/2013 5:47:47 AM PST by Andrei Bulba (No Obama, no way!)
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Same subject - DIFFERENT THEME
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Has anyone noticed the NEW PSA(?) in regards to a white guy, with beard, mentions father served in VN and he is a Vet, biker, has a job in Construction and the ad is extolling the joys of a FREE PHONE with 200 min, texting etc.
The ad refers you to a phone # and address (AT BOTTOM OF THIS)to find out if one is eligible. Out of morbid curiosity (or as the pundits put it “I did the research so you don’t have to”, when you open the link it introduces you to the product, mentions FREE says if you are on food stamps, eligible for medicare you MAY be eligible for the free phone.

I stopped at registering etc, bad enough my ‘phootprint’ is on the sight etc....

So now, ‘able’ bodied people are eligible for the “FREE PHONE”, and ‘they’ are covering all bases using white actors (in their idiotic minds), I guess because we keep implying the ‘only’ free phones were held by obamaites, jobamaites and holderites.

https://www.safelinkwireless.com/Enrollment/Safelink/en/Public/NewHome.html


10 posted on 01/10/2013 5:48:47 AM PST by xrmusn (6/98 "It is virtually impossible to clean the pond as long as the pigs are still crapping in it")
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Limbaugh spent much of his show yesterday dwelling on a NY Times article bemoaning the profit moaning in health care and asserting the proposition that it should not exist.

More ground prep by the MSM. When the rates start skyrocketing for everyone the media sphere will be saturated with such talk. Outrage against Grrrrrreeedy Insurance Companies will run rampant, and we’ll all be a few steps closer to Single Payer.


19 posted on 01/10/2013 6:33:58 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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Obamacare is a train wreck, and Democrats in the Senate are about to be in the middle of it.

Remember, the Supreme Court invalidated the part in Obamacare dealing with the coercion of the states, through the withholding of Medicaid funds, to form the state exchanges. Now, thirty-some-odd states have either opted out, or are about to do so.

This means Obama must now set up a federal exchange, and no funds were allocated in the law for this purpose.

And we have the House.

Since the exchanges were going to be the mechanism by which subsidies would flow to the poor to help them buy a policy, now the poor, already battered by the payroll tax increase, will scream like stuck pigs if forced to buy insurance.

Something’s got to give, and if you are a Senator up for reelection in 2014, you don’t want to go to your own “townhall”, because you will be skewered if the mandate stays in place. This is another “fiscal cliff” if you’re a Democrat, with no way to blame it on Republicans. Remember, the people who didn’t have policies were quite happy without them, and those who have policies are seeing the increases and know who’s to blame. This bill is only popular with those who want the pre-existing conditions benefit. Everyone else, statistically, hates it, including doctors.

This is what Michelle Bachmann knew last week when she put a bill up in the house to rescind the law. Her bill may get shot down in the Senate....this time, but at some point the Dem Senators will see the existential imperative involved here, IMHO.

This never was a health CARE crisis. Care is being provided, and the cure for a health care problem never was universal health insurance. The insurance companies are already screaming, because adverse selection was going to be avoided only by them receiving premiums from a much larger base. Now this simply will not happen, so even those who can now afford policies, soon won’t be able to.

Perhaps Reid can ignore it this time, but at some point, and the clock is ticking toward 2014.....the trains shall meet.


21 posted on 01/10/2013 6:41:27 AM PST by wayoverontheright
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The leftards will blame the “evil corporation” insurance companies for not absorbing the dictated cost increases and blame them for passing their costs of doing business in the price of their goods.

That is the gem of the whole thing....


22 posted on 01/10/2013 6:49:15 AM PST by CSM (Keeper of the Dave Ramsey Ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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