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Biden: Obama Considering 'Executive Order' to Deal With Guns
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/biden-obama-might-use-executive-order-deal-guns_694984.html ^

Posted on 01/09/2013 9:51:19 AM PST by kcvl

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To: kcvl
"Biden said that this is a moral issue and that 'it's critically important that we act.'"

I thought the Maxist Democrats are always telling us that we "can't legislate morality."

Can't ever accuse them of consistency, can we?

151 posted on 01/09/2013 12:07:46 PM PST by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: DonkeyBonker
Will the military stand with Zero in the event of a Civil War? Hopefully not.

There will be three groups of people ... the first group within the military will say "no way" and they will quit rather than be a part of this.

Then there are those who will decide that keeping their job is more important for their family security and they will reluctantly comply.

Whats left? ... THOSE are the ones we should genuinely fear ... they will be the seeds for the next gestapo.

152 posted on 01/09/2013 12:09:08 PM PST by dartuser ("If you are ... what you were ... then you're not.")
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To: Theo

He will try, he will succeed, and he is a dictator.


153 posted on 01/09/2013 12:11:56 PM PST by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: SampleMan

What? Are on drugs? What did I write that has JACK to do with the JEWS and under what reasoning does my vote, and how would you know how I voted, have to with the constitution? You may not agree or like what my comment was but at least stay on track. I think way too many people are too eager to insert the Holocaust into a argument.


154 posted on 01/09/2013 12:13:54 PM PST by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: kcvl

155 posted on 01/09/2013 12:19:51 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (Gone rogue, gone Galt, gone international. Gone.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

I can’t stand Obama, but that kind of talk is assinine and exactly what the left wants.


156 posted on 01/09/2013 12:21:57 PM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: kcvl

"From my cold, dead hands!"

2nd Amendment: "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed. "

157 posted on 01/09/2013 12:23:57 PM PST by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: kcvl

It is time to show up in DC with our guns in hand, open carry...and peacefully.


158 posted on 01/09/2013 12:27:14 PM PST by EBH (0bama is guilty of willful neglect of duty.)
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To: Paladin2
Why not invite Lon Tomohisa Horiuchi?

He would fit right in. Lon gleefully murdered Vicki Weaver in cold blood. He is a sadistic psychopath. Remember on Lon boy was at Waco too.

I hope true Justice prevails and this evil cretin is brought up on murder charges.

159 posted on 01/09/2013 12:28:44 PM PST by sand88
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To: Jewbacca

I just interpret it as him getting kicked out of office.


160 posted on 01/09/2013 12:29:36 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Red Steel
I heard Walmart refused to meet with Plugs Biden. Good for Walmart.

I probably got myself on some watch list, but I had to do it. I heard on ABC radio that Biden was going to meet with video game makers in a few days, because they want to take a "broad approach" to the gun problem. I called the White House comment line and said that the day I see Quentin Tarantino and other filth-purveying Hollywood punks who donated to the President's campaign called up to the White House to have Biden chew them out is the day I will see this as anything but another dog and pony show meant to insult my intelligence and screw with my liberties.

161 posted on 01/09/2013 12:31:03 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (Don't worry about the cliff. We're going to all land on some rich guy's wallet.)
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To: sand88

Lon seems to have disappeared.


162 posted on 01/09/2013 12:37:43 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Bobalu

LOL


163 posted on 01/09/2013 12:37:56 PM PST by QualityMan (Don't Tread on Me)
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To: kcvl
This would be equivalent to FDR threatening to 'stack the Supreme Court', it would make Obama a lame duck the moment he attempts to circumvent the Constitution.

Even Democrats from Red States would be forced to oppose him.

164 posted on 01/09/2013 12:38:34 PM PST by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: warsaw44

Nothing that violates the Constitution is legal. Some may call it legal (like the SCOTUS calling Obamacare legal) but it’s not, anymore than it would be legal for him to say, “Murder is now legal in a ten mile radius around the following coordinates” or something like that.


165 posted on 01/09/2013 12:48:47 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (Don't worry about the cliff. We're going to all land on some rich guy's wallet.)
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To: Mastador1
What? Are on drugs? What did I write that has JACK to do with the JEWS...

Nope, not on drugs. Its a simple and direct analogy. You stated that you "liked to think" that everything would be OK, as a dismissal of my answer to your question (which was the the only Constitutional mechanism for removing an out of control government is the 2A).

You had a chance (as we all did) to further our "likes" back in November. Assuming you didn't vote for Obama, you are not not getting what you would have "liked". If you did vote for Obama, you're statements are moronic and you are likely on drugs.

How did the German Jews react to an ever more hostile government. Most all of them continued wishful thinking that the law would be upheld of them and all would work out OK. You can take your pick from any number of peoples, professions, etc. that have been trampled under statism.

If you can't learn a lesson from such historical occurances, then you are doomed to experience them.

166 posted on 01/09/2013 12:51:31 PM PST by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: kcvl

Perhaps a symbolic protest is needed. Such as when greenies turn off all their lights at an appointed time. Except this time, if Obama makes a move and patriots announce an appointed time, the air will be filled with the sounds of millions of guns being fired. Even if cities have gunshot detection equipment, that will be overwhelmed by thousands of simultaneous gunshots. I think such an action will let them know we are ready to act.


167 posted on 01/09/2013 1:02:02 PM PST by roadcat
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To: KTM rider

No, no, no.

No matter what anyone says about Lincoln, rightly or wrongly, it was DEMOCRATS confiscating federal property and firing on a federal military reservation that began the war.

With all due respect to Southerners who fought bravely for what they thought was right, it should never be forgotten that Democrats who supported slavery fired the first shots then and are in essence firing the first shots now.


168 posted on 01/09/2013 1:03:46 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (Don't worry about the cliff. We're going to all land on some rich guy's wallet.)
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To: kcvl

169 posted on 01/09/2013 1:27:33 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Servant of the Cross

Now that’s what I call using the power of media to stand up for The People. Drudge just might get back on my good side if he keeps this up.


170 posted on 01/09/2013 1:30:31 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine
I was listening to the Art Bell show a few months ago...

Do you mean Coast to Coast AM? Art's been off the air for years and years.

171 posted on 01/09/2013 1:32:41 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

Yes!


172 posted on 01/09/2013 1:39:02 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Mastador1

“Can we recall/remove the President and Vice president for failure to uphold the Constitution? I bet if there was a way to have a vote on it they would be history. I can dream can’t I?”

There is nothing to prevent the House from impeaching the President. In fact, the Constitution requires it if they adher to their oath to uphold it.

No problem there.

The problem is the removal which involves getting the Senate to act, which is not remotely possible.

I for one believe that the Republicans in the House have a very strong hand in the threat to impeach Obama. It certainly neutered Clinton when they did it.


173 posted on 01/09/2013 1:50:00 PM PST by bestintxas (Anyone who votes for Obama after these 4 miserable years needs to take a mandatory citizenship test.)
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To: kcvl

If Obama DOES issue such an order, the House better start impeachment proceedings ten minutes after he issues it.


174 posted on 01/09/2013 1:58:57 PM PST by Little Ray (Waiting for the return of the Gods of the Copybook Headings.)
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To: kcvl

Looks like it’s TIME.


175 posted on 01/09/2013 2:14:59 PM PST by Quickgun (I came here screaming and covered in someone else's blood. I can go out that way if I have to)
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To: kcvl
Has anyone (in the modern era) tried to organize an armed demonstration of both our first amendment right to peaceably assemble and our second amendment right to bear arms? What would it be like if 100,000 (or more) armed citizens gathered in VA and marched across the bridges into DC to protest the intrusions on our rights, including a protest on the intrusion into our right to form a militia against a tyrannical government?
176 posted on 01/09/2013 2:31:45 PM PST by Alright2BRight
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To: DonkeyBonker

Some will, mostly those looking for some kind of political position. By a large margin, the military is OUR sons and daughters. I have already spoke with some about how they felt about a coming civil war,and what their friends opinions were. I was pretty satisfied with the feedback,to say the least...


177 posted on 01/09/2013 2:41:53 PM PST by Quickgun (I came here screaming and covered in someone else's blood. I can go out that way if I have to)
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To: kcvl

I think barry should just relax and take in a play.


178 posted on 01/09/2013 3:12:11 PM PST by crosshairs (They are only assault weapons in the hands of tyrannical governments and criminals. Ban both.)
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To: MomwithHope
Who is going to fight back in Washington? Bend Over Boehner?? or maybe Milktoast McDonnell?

Email Congressman Peter King (R-NY). I think he has some fight.
179 posted on 01/09/2013 3:13:27 PM PST by crosshairs (They are only assault weapons in the hands of tyrannical governments and criminals. Ban both.)
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To: warsaw44
Does anyone know if an American President can legally issue an executive order that violates the constitution?

Seriously. You have to even ask?
180 posted on 01/09/2013 3:24:30 PM PST by crosshairs (They are only assault weapons in the hands of tyrannical governments and criminals. Ban both.)
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To: panaxanax

“Make my day” was from “Sudden Impact”.
You’re thinking of, “Do you feel lucky?”


181 posted on 01/09/2013 9:21:18 PM PST by SJSAMPLE
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To: KTM rider

Leave it to a lost cause loser to try to defend the reprehensible Confederacy by linking a bunch of racist slavers, traitors, and terrorists to conservatives who are fighting for their freedom to self defense. Whose side are you really on?


182 posted on 01/09/2013 11:26:16 PM PST by Sarabaracuda (Keep guns out of the hands of lunatics or the government will keep guns out of your hands.)
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To: manc

No one forced them to fire the first shot. They chose to do it. Quit linking the Confederates to modern day conservatives.


183 posted on 01/09/2013 11:30:48 PM PST by Sarabaracuda (Keep guns out of the hands of lunatics or the government will keep guns out of your hands.)
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To: Sarabaracuda
"Leave it to a lost cause loser to try to defend the reprehensible Confederacy by linking a bunch of racist slavers, traitors, and terrorists to conservatives who are fighting for their freedom to self defense. Whose side are you really on?"

Yes, my analogy of historic federal tyrrany to the events of today would be difficult to defend against the well articulated and fact based opinion that you posted. I am a very bad man so sorry to offend your firmly planted paradigm, drinks are on me

184 posted on 01/10/2013 4:00:39 AM PST by KTM rider ( , you'd be lucky to get= $7....LOL !)
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To: Sarabaracuda

Well said!


185 posted on 01/10/2013 6:14:51 AM PST by Mr. Know It All
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To: KTM rider
The link you posted makes it clear that the Confederate states went to war to defend the institution of slavery.

As a result of their loss, certain positions on state's rights and property rights were forever weakened.

Our 2nd Amendment rights are currently under attack because a tiny minority of people were extremely irresponsible. The Confederacy is a classic example of a few people taking extreme action to defend the indefensible and ultimately ruining things for everyone.

Why don't you stand up for Adam Lanza and James Holmes, while you're at it?

186 posted on 01/10/2013 6:22:39 AM PST by Mr. Know It All
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To: kcvl

Does anyone see the hypocrisy of DE Joe lecturing us on “moral issues”?


187 posted on 01/10/2013 10:43:01 AM PST by Theodore R. ("Hey, the American people must all be crazy out there!")
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To: Mr. Know It All
The link you posted makes it clear that the Confederate states went to war to defend the institution of slavery.

obviously the public school system brainwashed you well. You completly missed the part about the northern states dictating the price of cotton and went to the immediate knee jerk default position that the civil war was all about abolishing slavery, that is not the case AT ALL, it was one issue but not the main issue. when the south tried to sell its cotton to europe the Fed sent the Navy to blockade their ports.

The north also had slaves and at least as many racists. If the southern states had been submissive and continued to feed the noprthern cotton mills at whatever prices they set, the north would have been perfectly content to continue slavery

The issue of slavery was used as a tool to control the southern states. Yes slavery is heinous its great that it was abolished . I am wasting my time with this because this was not even the point and has become more of a personal attack because I have a different opinion based on clear thinking and not public school brainwashing to salute and worship the federal government.

When gun control is enacted incrementally by Obama , you will be considered a rebel, a terrorist, an evil racist and will be shot down or jailed if you try to protest (just like the south was for protesting against tyranny)

188 posted on 01/10/2013 12:22:04 PM PST by KTM rider ( , you'd be lucky to get= $7....LOL !)
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To: Mr. Know It All
if you do not roll over and submit to federal government when they enact the enevitable gun control that is coming you will be considered a rebel and a traitor and history will be revised and the children will be brainwashed about how evil you were for protesting government tyranny

There will be a big monument to Obama in DC with a bronze plaque describing how Obama saved us from the evil conservative terrorists who tried to defend gun ownership so that people like Lanza could come and kill children but Obama saved us

189 posted on 01/10/2013 12:37:39 PM PST by KTM rider ( , you'd be lucky to get= $7....LOL !)
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To: KTM rider
obviously the public school system brainwashed you well

I went to Catholic schools.

this ... has become more of a personal attack

Yeah, thanks to you resorting to personal attacks.

If you consider people pointing out that you are being an apologist for racism and slavery a "personal attack," then stop being an apologist for racism and slavery.

190 posted on 01/10/2013 12:51:08 PM PST by Mr. Know It All
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To: Mr. Know It All
so now, according to you, I am an apologist for slavery and racism ?

You think like a liberal , just throw accusations out at random because you have no intellectual argument . You truly do Know it All so there is no point in having a discussion with your sealed liberal mind

191 posted on 01/10/2013 1:33:29 PM PST by KTM rider ( , you'd be lucky to get= $7....LOL !)
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To: KTM rider

Well, if the gray uniform fits... You are the one defending Democrats who tried to break this country apart so they could continue to treat human beings like animals.


192 posted on 01/10/2013 2:15:12 PM PST by Sarabaracuda (Keep guns out of the hands of lunatics or the government will keep guns out of your hands.)
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To: Mr. Know It All

Thank you. It is good to see someone who understands what I was saying.


193 posted on 01/10/2013 2:16:06 PM PST by Sarabaracuda (Keep guns out of the hands of lunatics or the government will keep guns out of your hands.)
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