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A call for suggestions of Talking points to combat the Oppressive-Leftat.
Jan 9 2013

Posted on 01/09/2013 8:19:23 AM PST by BerserkPatriot

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To: BerserkPatriot
People must write their state house Representatives and Senators, and U.S. Congress Representatives and Senators.

Find just a few choice sentences of the good writing here at FR and include those in these letters.

You do not have to win the argument, as much as you have to present to each of those elected officials, a simple set of statements.

Call or go see your friends, and ask them to do the same.

I recommend sending this in a letter:

Various wordings of the Second Amendment were tried during its development. The end result *purposefully* leaves out any enumeration of reasons why an individual has the right to keep and bear Arms. Any reason *why* an individual may or may not keep and bear Arms, was left to the states and the people thereof, to settle among themselves.

The only enumeration in the Second Amendment focuses on what to do about a group of men under Arms - what is to happen when individuals who bear military grade Arms are in a group, and they *are* capable of exercising martial power. What *then,* was to become of that power?

The answer was, that both the states and the federal government would rely upon *the group* being formally mustered, well-regulated, well trained to Arms, well discplined, and answerable to civilian authority.

Both the states and the federal government sought unity of function and preparedness of the militia of each state. The state militiae should be "well trained to Arms" and be capable of, and mindful of, lawfully exercising martial power and respecting lawful civilian authority.

The Founding Fathers correctly anticipated that any enumerated conditions for individuals, might be used as grounds for an individual to either, be forced to bear Arms, or, be stripped of their Arms. As was the case so many times leading to wars in England and on the continent.

Explanations are plentiful throughout history, Why the people must retain a balance of military power un-infringed by, and out of reach of, government and particularly a national government.

We will not surrender our right to possess a balance of power against the tide of ever-increasing government powers and nationalizing socialist police state tendencies; nor will we surrender our rights and our means for defending our selves, our families, our property, and our liberty.


21 posted on 01/09/2013 9:10:41 AM PST by First_Salute (May God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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To: BerserkPatriot

Not a talking point, but a good reference.

http://hotair.com/greenroom/archives/2013/01/08/texas-not-the-only-state-with-a-surplus/


22 posted on 01/09/2013 9:11:58 AM PST by randita
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To: blackdog

This is why the Oppressives have to constantly change the label for their evil ideology – it fails to make the “progress” as advertised and so they have change the name to make it seem ‘new’.

[Changing the name to protect the guilty]

This is why we need to be out there tying them to their collectivist ideology whenever we can – and counteracting the lies they spew in denying the obvious connection to their Socialist National agenda.


23 posted on 01/09/2013 9:13:32 AM PST by BerserkPatriot (Why is the Democratic National Socialist Committee waging a War on liberty?)
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To: BerserkPatriot

I should add, when I say “You do not have to win the argument ...” I mean, do not fret about whether or not your effort is of any use.

You must right now, set aside any self-doubt habits of yours, and then load and fire off some basic, well-written letters.

Do it.


24 posted on 01/09/2013 9:13:41 AM PST by First_Salute (May God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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To: cripplecreek

Yes, that should be part of it – the Left’s positions are so absurd that it lend itself naturally to it.


25 posted on 01/09/2013 9:18:46 AM PST by BerserkPatriot (Why is the Democratic National Socialist Committee waging a War on liberty?)
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To: BerserkPatriot

Gun control Works ~> ask the 500 dead per year in Chicago

I’m fighting bullying ~> one double-tap ,each , in my home

We arm the Islamicists and the Cartels ,
but we disarm the innocent at home !

Safety is defending myself , or waiting 8 minutes for the police to investigate.

Self Defense is as reasonable now as it was in 1776

I am an infidel and I grease my gun with pork fat


26 posted on 01/09/2013 9:22:35 AM PST by Tilted Irish Kilt (Disclaimer - the opinions above merely reflect the writers restricted ability to observe reality)
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To: BerserkPatriot

Leftists think it’s OK to kill babies - and do.


27 posted on 01/09/2013 9:23:56 AM PST by bopdowah ("Unlike King Midas, whatever the Gubmint touches sure don't turn to Gold!')
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To: MestaMachine

>>What the left wants:
YOUR HOUSE
YOUR MONEY
YOUR JOB
YOUR CHILDREN (living or dead)
YOUR FOOD
YOUR WATER
YOUR SOUL>>

Excellent!!!!!!!!!!!


28 posted on 01/09/2013 9:25:04 AM PST by kitkat
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To: BerserkPatriot

“Gun control kills people”

Excellent! Keep it going.


29 posted on 01/09/2013 9:27:48 AM PST by kitkat
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To: kitkat

Add “Your Health” to the list.


30 posted on 01/09/2013 9:27:47 AM PST by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: BerserkPatriot

The Progressives Oppress Liberty.


31 posted on 01/09/2013 9:29:37 AM PST by kitkat
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To: BerserkPatriot

Yes we need a Conservative news network.....Fox News stopped being conservative a long time ago....especially its evening programs.


32 posted on 01/09/2013 9:31:47 AM PST by SeminoleCounty (Fiscal Conservatives are Neither)
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"it would still help if we could frame the debate in truth instead of the lies of the Left."

What allows the typical low-information liberal voter to nurture his delusions of adequacy?

33 posted on 01/09/2013 9:32:09 AM PST by Matchett-PI (Obama's Shuck and Jive Ends With Benghazi Lies ~ Sarah Palin)
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To: kitkat

Yes, hit them between the eyes with their Liberty destroying ideology – they like to live in the lie that they are advocates of Liberty.

We have to throw in right back in their faces that They are not – they are the antithesis of being ‘Liberal’.


34 posted on 01/09/2013 9:36:33 AM PST by BerserkPatriot (Why is the Democratic National Socialist Committee waging a War on liberty?)
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To: kitkat
“Gun control kills people” Excellent! Keep it going.
I like that too, but I don’t want to be too arrogant in my own creativity. It’s short and too the point, but any ideas on tweaking it would be appreciated. One alternative is Gun Control = People Control, but that might be too cerebral for the Low information voters.
35 posted on 01/09/2013 9:41:36 AM PST by BerserkPatriot (Why is the Democratic National Socialist Committee waging a War on liberty?)
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To: BerserkPatriot
"We need to take back the culture from the Left – or at least provide a decent alternative to the Rot they push on everyone."

Agreed. But you'll have to go back before Kant

36 posted on 01/09/2013 9:43:17 AM PST by Matchett-PI (Obama's Shuck and Jive Ends With Benghazi Lies ~ Sarah Palin)
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To: BerserkPatriot

“Liberal” once meant that everybody was accepted. It has circled right around to mean that only “Liberals” are acceptable. We need a phrase that shows them for the Anti-Americans that they are. I’ll start off with:

Liberals hate freedom.

Please add your own short mottoes.


37 posted on 01/09/2013 9:46:18 AM PST by kitkat
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To: BerserkPatriot

“When seconds count, the Police are minutes away.”


38 posted on 01/09/2013 9:46:52 AM PST by Wordkraft (Remember who the Collaborators are.)
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To: SeminoleCounty

Yes, I think we need several – But I would settle for one for now.


39 posted on 01/09/2013 9:53:10 AM PST by BerserkPatriot (Why is the Democratic National Socialist Committee waging a War on liberty?)
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To: kitkat

Hmmm we’re both thinking the same thing..

(Adjusts tin foil hat)

Let’s hit them between their beady little eyes with this:

Oppressives Hate Liberty.

Or

Leftists Hate Liberty.

Just seeing them go off their rockers with that would make this effort all worth it.


40 posted on 01/09/2013 9:57:32 AM PST by BerserkPatriot (Why is the Democratic National Socialist Committee waging a War on liberty?)
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