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Nixon at 100: A model for GOP?
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Posted on 01/09/2013 8:07:32 AM PST by Perdogg

Wednesday is the 100th anniversary of Richard Nixon's birth. He remains a controversial figure, and not just on the political left. Last year, I was covering the Conservative Political Action Conference in Washington when I came across a stall selling old political pins. Unable to resist, I bought one with a picture of Tricky Dick giving his best crocodile smile beneath the classic slogan "Nixon's The One!"

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TOPICS: Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: anniversary; happybirthday; presidents; richardnixon

1 posted on 01/09/2013 8:07:35 AM PST by Perdogg
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To: Perdogg

If CNN’s saying it, then the answer has to be no. Figured they would love an expander of government (EPA, OSHA, Amtrak et al).


2 posted on 01/09/2013 8:12:31 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Perdogg

Nixon was no friend to the conservative movement (the heck with the fact that he was a mobbed-up crook). Nixon was second only to FRD is ushering the nanny state and big government with the establishment of the DEA and the war on drugs and the EPA and the war on the Detroit auto industry.


3 posted on 01/09/2013 8:13:07 AM PST by AtlasStalled
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To: Perdogg

Hell no. EPA, flirting with price controls, OSHA, etc. he was a disaster.


4 posted on 01/09/2013 8:15:20 AM PST by youngidiot (God help us.)
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To: Perdogg

Nixon was by no means a conservative on the domestic side. However, he new the media and the Democrats were a bunch of SOB’s. This is a fact that alludes much of the GOP today.


5 posted on 01/09/2013 8:18:45 AM PST by 11th Commandment (http://www.thirty-thousand.org/)
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To: Perdogg

Blah blah blah, I get to read all the FR purists who don’t know their rears from their elbows about Nixon.

Nixon fought the left. He knew they were his enemy. He took no crap. The country was in leftist revolution, he stood up to that. What he dealt with makes today look like a tea party (the type with fine china).

Yes he made some mistakes like wage and price controls, because he was a bold leader. But the left HATED him which is why he was destroyed (that and his stupid totally unneccessary corruption).

Of course if he were a democrat, Watergate would be remembered as a “witch hunt”.


6 posted on 01/09/2013 8:19:46 AM PST by Williams (No Obama)
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To: AtlasStalled
Quite correct on all counts. I clearly remember the arrogant ass he appointed to head the new EPA who promptly and unilaterally banned DDT based on some half-assed research which has since been discredited.

When asked why he did so, he gave the response "What is the use of power if you can't wield it?" So typical of the political ruling class.

That being said, Nixon at least had a sense of shame and didn't hate his country. BO is sorely lacking on both counts.

7 posted on 01/09/2013 8:23:18 AM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Williams
Nixon fought the left. He knew they were his enemy. He took no crap.
I agree. I also cheered when he went after the NVA in Cambodia and bombed the livin' $hit out of Hanoi.
Monica Crowley wrote two books about Nixon which I recommend.
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8 posted on 01/09/2013 8:30:27 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Williams

The thing I was surprsied to learn was how much dislike Nixon and Reagan had for each other. In fact, Reagan and Rockefeller teamed up to try to deny him the nomination in 1968.


9 posted on 01/09/2013 8:31:55 AM PST by Perdogg (Mark Levin - It's called the Bill of Rights not Bill of Needs)
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To: Vigilanteman

“Nixon at least had a sense of shame and didn’t hate his country. BO is sorely lacking on both counts.”

Well said! Agreed.


10 posted on 01/09/2013 8:34:10 AM PST by AtlasStalled
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To: Perdogg

The only reason the left didn’t LOVE Nixon was his anti-communist background. The fact that he governed like an extreme radical lefty didn’t impress them after that.


11 posted on 01/09/2013 8:48:17 AM PST by DManA
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To: Williams
Nixon fought the left. He knew they were his enemy. He took no crap. The country was in leftist revolution, he stood up to that.

And that is exactly what he should be remembered for. When the whole country was swooning over Camelot and singing kumbaya, Nixon had identified the enemies that were infiltrating our institutions and was one of a small group fighting to hold them off. His enemies list were not his political foes but domestic enemies of the country he defending. They were the harbingers of the marxists that now have us under their thumb.

12 posted on 01/09/2013 8:49:43 AM PST by oldbrowser (They are marxists, don't call them democrats)
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To: Perdogg

Nixon took us off the Gold Standard and he normalized relatioins with Communist China. If I’m not mistaken he established the EPA.

Aside from that, he was a pretty good President. Too bad RINOs first exhibited a yellow streak by bolting from him over Watergate. The Media demonstrated once again how leftist they were by attcking him over it.

Considering what the Dems have done and still do, that was really small potatoes.


13 posted on 01/09/2013 8:56:05 AM PST by ZULU (See video: http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2012/09/the-first-siege-of-vienna.html)
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To: Williams

Nixon pretty much was a liberal...and would even be considered such by todays Liberal RINOs in the GOP

The Democrats/Liberals hated Nixon because he Co-Opted their ideas....not because he was “Conservative”.

That is not being “Purist”, that is being “Realist”


14 posted on 01/09/2013 8:58:47 AM PST by SeminoleCounty (Fiscal Conservatives are Neither)
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To: Perdogg
...bombing Cambodia to a point of social anarchy that would lead, inexorably, to the genocide of the Khmer Rouge.

The bombings did nothing to create "social anarchy," as they were aimed at Communist forces. The Khmer Rouge was set up by North Vietnam, which began infiltrating Cambodia in the mid-1960's and then launched a full-scale invasion of the country in 1970.

15 posted on 01/09/2013 9:08:32 AM PST by Fiji Hill (Io Triumphe!)
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To: Perdogg

Despite his liberal domestic record, Nixon will always inhabit the dog house of the Left because he saved Israel in 1973.


16 posted on 01/09/2013 9:14:51 AM PST by Fiji Hill (Io Triumphe!)
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To: Perdogg

Let’s see - Nixon started the EPA, OSHA, got us off the Gold Standard - he’s not a model for anything resembling conservatism. The SOB should have ordered carpet bombing Hanoi when Jane was there.


17 posted on 01/09/2013 9:22:05 AM PST by meyer (Proud member of the 53%.)
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To: SeminoleCounty
Nixon pretty much was a liberal ... [they] hated Nixon because he Co-Opted their ideas
So it was a liberal idea to continue fighting in VN, invade Cambodia, bomb Hanoi into the Stone Age, fight Communism, etc?
And as far as the EPA goes - this country was a friggin' pig pen back in the day, and the EPA was not a bad idea.
That the Libs have turned into a tool of oppression is not his fault.
18 posted on 01/09/2013 9:32:46 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: oldbrowser

Nixon got Alger Hiss. That’s the main reason the Left has hated him. Nixon validated, in his way, McCarthy’s House of Un-American Activities committee.

Nixon exposed the communists in the FDR and Truman administrations. Nixon’s world anti-communism was nowhere near as threatening to the Progressive movement as the leftist pinko commies infiltrating our own government.

Nixon exposed that soft underbelly in our government that persists to this day with communists and radical Islamists.

Exposing the pervasive insidious Godless subterranean sprawl of leftist radicalism is the ultimate unforgivable political sin.


19 posted on 01/09/2013 9:35:50 AM PST by A'elian' nation (Political correctness does not legislate tolerance; it only organizes hatred. Jacques Barzun)
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To: oh8eleven

It wasn’t just the EPA and the DEA he created but he also was responsible for legislation through rule making, and more broadly usurped the role of Congress for enacting laws to give it to regulators. Nixon is rightly blamed for the trend of Congress righting broad laws which would be filled in with details at the regulatory level.

I do admit that the environment was in a mess in the early 1970s but man did he create an agency which he gave broad authority to.

I’ll never forgive him for destroying the muscle car era though.


20 posted on 01/09/2013 9:40:15 AM PST by AtlasStalled
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To: A'elian' nation

True.

Also Nixon was a lawyer. I think somewhere there’s a good book that looks that presidents in the context of what they did prior to becoming president.

Lincoln was a lawyer and that surely informed his view of the world. Wilson was an egghead prof. Obamugabe was a community organizer. Eisenhower was a general. And so on and so on.

I suspect that Nixon erred in seeing Watergate in a lawyerly fashion when he should have viewed it as an existential threat.


21 posted on 01/09/2013 9:40:46 AM PST by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: Perdogg

No! He was a fan of regulatory agencies!


22 posted on 01/09/2013 9:43:41 AM PST by petro45acp (More sheepdogs please...)
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To: A'elian' nation

McCarthy had nothing to do with HUAC, McCarthy was a Senator, not a Congressman. That is a mistake that the left has perpetuated over the years, blaming the abuses of the HUAC on McCarthy, and there were abuses, many of them created by Democrats.

My grandfather was accused of being a communist by the CIO and referred to the HUAC. Nothing came of it because he wasn’t a communist, but the investigation continued for years, until his death and just about destroyed him, but that was the purpose.

The CIO had tried to kill my grandfather after he was elected to be the first CIO president at RCA because the CIO was afraid of him, afraid that he wouldn’t blindly follow union leaders on racial hiring policies and other union tactics. They tried to get him moved to management, but he turned that down, so the CIO had him run down as he stood on the curb in front of his home, waiting to cross the street.

RCA responded to the attack on my grandfather by closing the plant and moving to Indiana without the CIO. The people of Camden county responded by electing my grandfather to the NJ State Assembly. The CIO responded by accusing by grandfather of being a communist.


23 posted on 01/09/2013 9:45:44 AM PST by Eva
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To: Eva

thanks for the correction Eva. It is despicable what happened to your grandfather. Now would you also straighten me out on what the CIO is ?


24 posted on 01/09/2013 9:49:59 AM PST by A'elian' nation (Political correctness does not legislate tolerance; it only organizes hatred. Jacques Barzun)
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To: Perdogg

Nixon did dozens of stupid things. The left hated him because they were all gung-ho on pulling out of Vietnam, and he didn’t do it fast enough for them.

If he had simply left Vietnam right away instead of dragging his feet and THEN pulling out, it would have done far less damage over the succeeding years than founding the EPA and his other left-wing conciliations.

Vietnam wasn’t Nixon’s fault. JFK and LBJ left him a terrible mess. JFK had a habit of starting wars he didn’t intend to win (Eisenhower’s advice), beginning with the Bay of Pigs. And LBJ micromanaged the war to lose. But the left hated Nixon because they could blame it on him.


25 posted on 01/09/2013 9:56:53 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: A'elian' nation

The CIO was actually the CIOA before joining with the AFL and becoming the AFL CIO. My grandfather was elected to be the first and last president of the Electrical workers and machinists union at RCA.


26 posted on 01/09/2013 10:07:44 AM PST by Eva
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To: oldbrowser

Ditto.


27 posted on 01/09/2013 10:28:40 AM PST by Swede Girl
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To: Eva
The CIO was actually the CIOA before joining with the AFL and becoming the AFL CIO. My grandfather was elected ...
In 1880, my gg-grandfather lived in the same tenement in the Lower East Side of Manhattan with Samuel Gompers, founder of the AFL.
My gg-grandfather was a barrel maker, and Gompers was a cigar maker.
Don't know if they knew each other but I wouldn't be surprised if they shared a brew, a stoggie and talked politics.
28 posted on 01/09/2013 10:30:11 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Perdogg

No, Nixon was amoral and governed like a liberal Democrat. It’s no wonder Commie nuthouse Network thinks he should be a Republican role model.


29 posted on 01/09/2013 10:38:42 AM PST by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: Perdogg

Sadly, Nixon is the Role model for the GOP post-Reagan.

He’s also the best example I can think of to point out that moving left for votes is a failed strategy. Won the battle, but lost the war. Other than airlifting some arms to Israel, he accomplished nothing of lasting importance, and did more than enough damage to the party and the country to offset that one bright spot.

If only Goldwater had won...


30 posted on 01/09/2013 12:01:55 PM PST by CowboyJay (Lowest Common Denominator 2012 - because liberty and prosperity were overrated)
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To: SeminoleCounty

Democrats hated Nixon because he co-opted their ideas????

How old are you? You have no idea what you are talking about. No it’s not being a purist, it’s pure bs.

Richard Nixon faced rabid democrat attacks, he mobilized hardhats against the left, Washington DC was swamped by hundreds of thousands of demonstrators protesting his war policies.

It’s just so ignorant and so out of synch with reality to say Nixon was a liberal or that the democrats just hated him for stealing all their ideas. Nixon was reelected in a landslide over George McGovern who was a far left liberal democrat. He was destroyed by liberal democrats who then brought disaster upon SouthEast Asia.

Nixon was a tough ass and a conservative one. He appealed to the great silent majority, he hated the liberal elites, the liberal press.

Whatever.


31 posted on 01/09/2013 9:07:25 PM PST by Williams (No Obama)
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