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Off With a Bang: Assault on Second Amendment Begins
FrontPage Magazine ^ | January 8, 2013 | Matthew Vadum

Posted on 01/08/2013 4:33:15 PM PST by SJackson

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To: tpmintx

What Obama really admirers about Lincoln is he suspended writ of habeas corpus, and signing arrest warrants for Congressman and the Chief Justice of the United States.


21 posted on 01/08/2013 8:38:47 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: muir_redwoods

“The evidence of their lies is painfully apparent. If their purpose is to somehow save lives with gun control they should logically start in the inner cities where most gun violence occurs. They have taken no steps in this direction and won’t.”

Yup, should starr with inner cities like south central L.A., south side Chicago, Bedford-Stuyvesant, etc.


22 posted on 01/08/2013 8:45:37 PM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: WildHighlander57

starr = start


23 posted on 01/08/2013 8:50:44 PM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: SJackson
The 2nd amendment does NOT give us the "right' to bear arms. The 2nd amendment simply states that the government has no power to infringe upon the pre-existing "natural right" of self defense, which is a long-established right in ancient English Law.

In simple terms: We already have the right to bear arms -- the government has no power to infringe upon that right.

24 posted on 01/08/2013 9:02:17 PM PST by vortigern
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To: vortigern
"The 2nd amendment does NOT give us the "right' to bear arms."

Which document are you reading from?

25 posted on 01/08/2013 9:07:10 PM PST by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/?)
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To: eyedigress

Read the whole post.


26 posted on 01/08/2013 9:12:29 PM PST by vortigern
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To: eyedigress
"the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed"

Read the words. What to they say? They imply there's a pre-existing right to bear arms, and not a right being given by the 2nd amendment -- As much of the Constitution is written to protect the people from the government.

27 posted on 01/08/2013 9:17:43 PM PST by vortigern
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To: SJackson
“When you all go home and you’re talking to your buddies and you say, ah ‘He wants to take my gun away.’ You’ve heard it here, I’m on television so everybody knows it. I believe in the Second Amendment. I believe in people’s lawful right to bear arms. I will not take your shotgun away. I will not take your rifle away. I won’t take your handgun away.”

Prezdent MuzzieBoy is a lying licker of stinking dog squeezins.

28 posted on 01/08/2013 9:23:13 PM PST by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: vortigern

Exactly, amendment 3 explicitly says why.


29 posted on 01/08/2013 9:24:49 PM PST by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/?)
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To: eyedigress

The Declaration tells us where we get the Right to Keep and Bear Arms - from our Creator.

vortigern is correct.


30 posted on 01/08/2013 9:31:28 PM PST by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: tpmintx
The only problem would be that owners of Class III firearms would see the values drop precipitously. A transferable M-16 from before '86 is currently worth about $20K. If these acts are repealed it would probably drop to about $2K in value, depending what the manufacturers would charge for a new one.

Just because I own a couple cars doesn't mean I want car prices to continue to skyrocket. In the short term, you'd still be able to trade one you own for a different one, even if prices plummeted 90%. In the long term, if those are the kind of guns you like, you WANT them to be cheaper and obtainable with fewer infringements on your rights. And philosophically, I'm sure that anyone that's into freedom enough to own a machine gun would gladly pay $18K to live in a free country. I would, and I don't even own a machine gun.

31 posted on 01/08/2013 9:36:12 PM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: goodnesswins
Heck, Canada could NOT even get it’s citizens to Register their guns. They finally gave up after about 10 years of trying.

REally? According to my know-it-all liberal sister-in-law, Canadian gun bans have been wildly successful. (eye roll)

32 posted on 01/08/2013 9:49:55 PM PST by ponygirl (Be Breitbart.)
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To: ponygirl
According to my know-it-all liberal sister-in-law, Canadian gun bans have been wildly successful.

If you want to have some fun, you can register an AR-15 with the Canadians and take it across the border.

Takes about nine months to get all the paperwork done, but it is entirely possible to do.

33 posted on 01/08/2013 11:48:43 PM PST by superloser
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To: superloser
If you want to have some fun, you can register an AR-15 with the Canadians and take it across the border.

I've never had a problem transporting rifles and shotguns into or through Canada. Used to be able to transport handguns that customs would seal in a plastic bag.

34 posted on 01/09/2013 12:04:18 AM PST by Alaska Wolf (Carry a Gun, It's a Lighter Burden Than Regret)
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To: tpmintx

....But yet, history has been, very, very kind to Lincoln because he is viewed as having “preserved the union”.


35 posted on 01/09/2013 4:10:41 AM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: sergeantdave

Thank-you for standing up for those who serve the USA in the armed forces.


36 posted on 01/09/2013 4:12:41 AM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: SJackson
Sen. Heidi Heitkamp (D-N.D.) also cautioned against taking aim at gun owners’ rights. “I think you need to put everything on the table, but what I hear from the administration — and if the Washington Post is to be believed — that’s way, way in extreme of what I think is necessary or even should be talked about. And it’s not going to pass,” the new freshman senator said on a Sunday TV talk show.

Interesting to note how rational this new D Senator is on her first weekend in DC. Let her attend a few caucus meetings so Harry can tell her how things work in DC and she'll be sponsoring a bill to outlaw Red Ryder BB Guns.

37 posted on 01/09/2013 4:21:05 AM PST by IamConservative (The soul of my lifes journey is Liberty!)
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To: sergeantdave

I didn’t mean to infer they were. Quite the opposite actually: I said that the ONLY way he could get their support would be to re-frame the fight as Fed vs state(s), not Govt vs People.


38 posted on 01/09/2013 4:22:18 AM PST by Riflema
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To: tpmintx

I have a NFA weapon and would gladly take the hit on the money if it was repealed. S&W 76 was supposed to be named that because that was what it cost to manufacture. Cost me $6700


39 posted on 01/09/2013 7:03:30 AM PST by smithandwesson76subgun (full auto fun)
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To: superloser

I’d just like to FIND an AR-15 at this point.


40 posted on 01/09/2013 7:40:47 AM PST by ponygirl (Be Breitbart.)
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