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Obama Is Planning A Major Push On Guns, And One Democratic Senator Is Already Calling It 'Extreme'
TBI ^ | Brett LoGiurato

Posted on 01/06/2013 2:32:30 PM PST by blam

The White House Is Planning A Major Push On Guns, And One Democratic Senator Is Already Calling It 'Extreme'

Brett LoGiurato
Jan. 6, 2013, 1:40 PM

The White House's task force led by Vice President Joe Biden is considering expansive proposals to tackle the nation's gun violence, something that is already drawing early condemnation from even Democratic lawmakers.

The Washington Post reported Sunday that the group headed by Biden is preparing to go far beyond a simple reinstatement of the expired assault weapons ban:

A working group led by Vice President Biden is seriously considering measures backed by key law enforcement leaders that would require universal background checks for firearm buyers, track the movement and sale of weapons through a national database, strengthen mental health checks, and stiffen penalties for carrying guns near schools or giving them to minors, the sources said.

But on Sunday, newly sworn-in Sen. Heidi Heitkamp, a Democrat from North Dakota, called the reported proposals "way in the extreme" and cautioned that they would not pass if brought together in a comprehensive bill.

"Well, I think you need to put everything on the table," Heitkamp said on ABC's "This Week with George Stephanopoulos."

"But what I hear from the administration — and if The Washington Post is to be believed — that's way, way in extreme of what I think is necessary or even should be talked about. And it's not going to pass."

It's an especially strong rebuke from the Democrat Heitkamp, who comes from a red-leaning state and earned an "A" rating from the National Rifle Association. The Post reported that the White House plans to bypass trying to earn support for the measure from the NRA, instead turning to businesses like Wal-Mart for support.

On "This Week," Heitkamp said that there should be

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: North Dakota
KEYWORDS: 2ndammendment; banglist; firearms; guncontrol; guns; heidiheitkamp; northdakota; obama; secondamendment
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To: crosshairs

It won’t be just one person. Obama will be backed by tens of millions of his supporters and the world as a whole.


21 posted on 01/06/2013 2:59:45 PM PST by Sarabaracuda (Keep guns out of the hands of lunatics or the government will keep guns out of your hands.)
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To: blam

The scheme is to bring “overwheming” force in the form of business, Walmart, corporations, media and Lefty American outcry against us, to practice indoctrination and propaganda techniques for other items on their communist agenda, coming down the road.

Fundamental change is certainly rolling up our culture, politics, media, thanks to PUBLIC EDUCATION.


22 posted on 01/06/2013 3:00:10 PM PST by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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To: Sarabaracuda

Tens of millions? So, I guess they will be heavily outnumbered.


23 posted on 01/06/2013 3:01:41 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (Nothing will change until after the war.)
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To: notatard?
Who would have thought my greatest enemy would be my own government?

Thomas Jefferson, et. al.

24 posted on 01/06/2013 3:03:17 PM PST by TangoLimaSierra (To the left the truth looks like Right-Wing extremism.)
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To: blam

I’d be a lot more worried about this if Biden were’t in charge.

He strikes me as being too dumb to find his butt with both hands and the lights on......


25 posted on 01/06/2013 3:04:00 PM PST by basil (Second Amendment Sisters.org)
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To: skeeter
He'll overreach at first and we'll be relieved to take what he offers later. Or at least thats his plan.

I agree. But, it is time to stand tough on this one. No more compromises....none.
26 posted on 01/06/2013 3:05:30 PM PST by Girlene
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To: blam

“A working group led by Vice President Biden is seriously considering measures backed by key law enforcement leaders that would require universal background checks for firearm buyers, track the movement and sale of weapons through a national database, strengthen mental health checks, and stiffen penalties for carrying guns near schools or giving them to minors, the sources said. “

OK...what “key law enforcement leaders”? Holder?
And, just how do you intend to establish and populate a “national database” of firearms?
And, of course stricter penalties for carrying firearms near schools would have avoided the tragedy in CT...

Good to see a dhimmicrap that recognizes this for the tripe that it is. But, we all need to raise our voices, loud and long. Burn up the phone lines to your elected representatives at ALL LEVELS. Tell them to leave the Second Amendment alone, and get the hell out of our gun safes.


27 posted on 01/06/2013 3:07:41 PM PST by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion. 01-20-2013: Still seeking change.)
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To: blam

One thing to keep in mind, this will only be one of many rounds on this. They may try for a home run on this - for gun control, registration etc - then “settle” for a single or a double. No way, no compromise on our rights, none. We don’t give an inch. We don’t “have to give them something.” So be vigilant, they don’t really expect this to fly, they’re really after anything they can get in a so-called “compromise.”


28 posted on 01/06/2013 3:08:51 PM PST by ThunderSleeps (Stop obama now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: Sarabaracuda
Obama will be backed by tens of millions of his supporters and the world as a whole.

Here you are on another firearm thread, fretting about conservatives not kneeling to the almighty government.

Your grasp of logistics leaves much to be desired.

Put on your big girl panties, and get conservative, or get gone.

/johnny

29 posted on 01/06/2013 3:09:58 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Paladin2

“Why the long-gun registry doesn’t work — and never did”
http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2012/12/11/gary-mauser-why-the-long-gun-registry-doesnt-work-and-never-did/


30 posted on 01/06/2013 3:14:09 PM PST by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: blam

The media reports all this as “the bill WILL ban ...this and that” where it should honetly, at most, say “the bill would”.

They want to stampede us into hysteria when they know it takes both houses of Congress plus President’s auto-pen, then Courts take a whack at it. The same USSCT majority which recently upheld individual right to bear arms should hold.

Meanwhile Dingy Harry has said that no gun bills will come up in Senate. Sure he could change his mind. But he has a long record of being NRA’s “bitch”. They support and endorse him, we all get madder than a wet het, but he stays bought. Nevada is still a pro-gun state.

True, we cannot count on Boehner for anyting, but I think the NRA has withstood the media blitz over the Sandyhook crisis opportunity for the gun grabbers.

Gabby Giffords and Jim Brady can rail all they want but neither was shot with an assault rifle. Brady was hit with a .22!


31 posted on 01/06/2013 3:15:04 PM PST by shalom aleichem
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To: blam
With apologies for taking the topic slightly sideways, IIRC, it was none other than the NRA who refused to give support to Angle during her race against Reid for Nevada Senator (apparently attempting to curry favor with Mister Reid) who was alleged to be something of a 2nd Amendment supporter (hah!).

Unless I missed something, Mister Reid, who has always seemed like a true weasel's weasel to moi, seems most reluctant to call Mister Obama's push on guns as "extreme" or anything at all negative, n'est ce pas?

.

32 posted on 01/06/2013 3:16:26 PM PST by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: NewJerseyJoe

P4L


33 posted on 01/06/2013 3:16:45 PM PST by NewJerseyJoe (Rat mantra: "Facts are meaningless! You can use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!")
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To: Sarabaracuda

“It won’t be just one person. Obama will be backed by tens of millions of his supporters and the world as a whole.”

Good. Then we’ll have them where we want them. Enemies in all directions. That eliminates the concern for the dangers of receiving ‘friendly fire’ from any quarter.


34 posted on 01/06/2013 3:19:56 PM PST by chulaivn66 (Semper Fidelis in Extremis)
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To: Sarabaracuda

His supporters are mostly metrosexual wussies that have never served in the military, hunted, or worked in any manly profession. They can stamp their feet and throw a hissy fit, but they can’t beat us by force.
Obama’s supporters cannot hope to prevail in a dirty war.

The “occupy” movement, where they posted those photos of messages, held in front of their sad little faces, is as rough as they’ve ever had it.

As for the rest of the world, i double dog dare him to bring foreign troops here to enforce so much as a traffic ticket. NO, i triple dog dare him!
Foreign soldiers doing -any- action against Americans can be shot on sight. I cannot find anything, anywhere, that states the American people must ever tolerate foreign troops arrayed against us, -here-.
Unarmed disaster relief, like handing out water, driving a bulldozer, or flying a rescue helicopter, fine. Training on a base as our friendly guests, like the Luftwaffe flying jets in the desert southwest, perfectly fine.

But conducting law enforcement, COIN, or gun grabbing raids (even in a support role) makes them an instant legitimate target.


35 posted on 01/06/2013 3:20:23 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: blam

In September, 1994, Congress passed an assault-weapons ban. Less than two months later, an historic election took place which returned control of Congress to the Republicans after decades of wandering in the wilderness.

A chief sponsor of the 1994 ban was Senator Dianne Feinstein, who is now leading the effort to pass another similar ban this year.

The most intensely active voter-base organization of the Republican party is the NRA, and crazy Dianne wants to take them on again?!

The Republicans maintained control of Congress until two years after the NRA’s goal was achieved — expiration of the 1994 assault-weapons ban without renewal. Having nothing to fight for, the NRA was not active in the 2006 elections, when the Democrats regained Congress. But now that Dianne Feinstein wants to bring them back into the fray, what can Republicans do but encourage her? Please, Senator, go ahead. Make our day.


36 posted on 01/06/2013 3:20:23 PM PST by Bluestocking
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To: From The Deer Stand

37 posted on 01/06/2013 3:24:51 PM PST by NewJerseyJoe (Rat mantra: "Facts are meaningless! You can use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!")
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To: JohnBrowdie
If they overreach, they won’t even have the votes in the senate

That's why God created Executive Orders.

38 posted on 01/06/2013 3:24:56 PM PST by null and void (The world is full of Maple Streets.)
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To: Sarabaracuda
Obama will be backed by tens of millions of his supporters and the world as a whole.

It's not so much what you don't know that will get you in trouble. It's what you know that ain't so.

39 posted on 01/06/2013 3:26:10 PM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: Farmer Dean

No kidding, the hunting and shooting argument is loosing. It’s about defending us from tyrannical government. Right now we need the 2nd amendment more than anything. The lefties know it. Gun laws will never pass the house.


40 posted on 01/06/2013 3:30:04 PM PST by Indy Pendance
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