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‘National database’ on gun sales part of Obama anti-gun game plan
Seattle Gun Rights Examiner ^ | 5 January, 2013 | Dave Workman

Posted on 01/06/2013 11:51:07 AM PST by marktwain

The Washington Post is reporting that President Barack Obama is preparing to pull out all the stops in pushing his anti-gun agenda in what the newspaper calls “a far broader and more comprehensive approach” than the Clinton-era ban on semi-autos.

That ban expired in 2004 after a ten-year lifespan. Passage of the measure cost Democrats control of Congress in November 1994.

The moves will be sold as an effort to curb “gun violence,” but it appears there is much more in the president’s plan, including what the Post calls “measures backed by key law enforcement leaders that would require universal background checks for firearm buyers (and) track the movement and sale of weapons through a national database…”

“National database” just might sound like “national gun registration” to some firearms activists. The concept is almost certain to be toxic to the firearms community. Fear of impending gun restrictions has fueled a buying rush across the nation, and is reportedly swelling the ranks of gun rights organizations with thousands of new memberships.

(Excerpt) Read more at examiner.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: banglist; gunregistration
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To: JRandomFreeper

If you want to oppose the government do it legally. Don’t resort to intimidation and murder. That’s exactly what a terrorist does.


81 posted on 01/06/2013 4:01:04 PM PST by Sarabaracuda (Keep guns out of the hands of lunatics or the government will keep guns out of your hands.)
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To: marktwain

And closing the “gun show loophole” is gun registration.


82 posted on 01/06/2013 4:01:49 PM PST by Trailerpark Badass (So?)
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To: Sarabaracuda
You seem to think I'm talking about taking up arms against the government proactively. That's silly.

I will protect myself against unlawful acts by anyone, however, even government.

It's not intimidation to let a criminal know that you intend to defend yourself.

Or to let government know you won't comply with an unconstitutional law.

/johnny

83 posted on 01/06/2013 4:11:17 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: marktwain

We all need to make sure our reps understand that any type of additional gun restrictions are unacceptable and that no one will comply.


84 posted on 01/06/2013 4:11:59 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Sarabaracuda
If you want to oppose the government do it legally. Don’t resort to intimidation and murder.

Is that what you would have advised the founding fathers, in 1774?

You don't think much of God given rights, but you are right there to support government, and the establishment.

/johnny

85 posted on 01/06/2013 4:17:52 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: marktwain

Guns have been nationally traceable to the first consumer sale since 1968. Unless there’s something else in this that is so far unstated it is just Obamuzzie giving more smoke enemas.


86 posted on 01/06/2013 5:10:42 PM PST by cherokee1 (skip the names---just kick the buttz)
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To: Sarabaracuda

Well fret not dear, there are rules after all, we don’t want folks targeting family members, etc as discussed by enraged citizens, police officers, etc in blogs and commentary all over the web; the focus should be on the tyrants once the first innocents are killed defending their inherent natural rights to self-defense, reiterated in the Constitution. Introducing the doctrine of one hundred heads:

http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com/2009/10/mathematics-of-liberty-one-hundred.html


87 posted on 01/06/2013 5:34:36 PM PST by TheBigJ
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To: Standing Wolf

Point of order, I’ve yet to see the compromise where the National Disgrace In Chief only gets HALF of what he wants. Usually the bozos on “our side” (and I use that loosely) give him about 90% of what he wants, plus invite him home to have drinks, relations with their wives and daughters, and kick their dogs on the way out the door.


88 posted on 01/06/2013 5:38:53 PM PST by SoCalTransplant (Wake me when we get to the part where we alter or abolish it.)
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To: Sarabaracuda

Federalist 28
http://www.constitution.org/fed/federa28.htm

If the representatives of the people betray their constituents, there is then no resource left but in the exertion of that original right of self-defense which is paramount to all positive forms of government, and which against the usurpations of the national rulers, may be exerted with infinitely better prospect of success than against those of the rulers of an individual state. In a single state, if the persons intrusted with supreme power become usurpers, the different parcels, subdivisions, or districts of which it consists, having no distinct government in each, can take no regular measures for defense. The citizens must rush tumultuously to arms, without concert, without system, without resource; except in their courage and despair.

Federalist 46
http://www.constitution.org/fed/federa46.htm

But ambitious encroachments of the federal government, on the authority of the State governments, would not excite the opposition of a single State, or of a few States only. They would be signals of general alarm. Every government would espouse the common cause. A correspondence would be opened. Plans of resistance would be concerted. One spirit would animate and conduct the whole. The same combinations, in short, would result from an apprehension of the federal, as was produced by the dread of a foreign, yoke; and unless the projected innovations should be voluntarily renounced, the same appeal to a trial of force would be made in the one case as was made in the other.

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Besides the advantage of being armed, which the Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation, the existence of subordinate governments, to which the people are attached, and by which the militia officers are appointed, forms a barrier against the enterprises of ambition, more insurmountable than any which a simple government of any form can admit of. Notwithstanding the military establishments in the several kingdoms of Europe, which are carried as far as the public resources will bear, the governments are afraid to trust the people with arms. And it is not certain, that with this aid alone they would not be able to shake off their yokes.


89 posted on 01/06/2013 5:39:41 PM PST by TheBigJ
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To: JRandomFreeper

They did not live in a representative democracy. We do.


90 posted on 01/06/2013 5:49:26 PM PST by Sarabaracuda (Keep guns out of the hands of lunatics or the government will keep guns out of your hands.)
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To: JRandomFreeper
+1
91 posted on 01/06/2013 5:52:40 PM PST by tomkat (-/\/\/\-)
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To: Sarabaracuda
No, we live in a Republic.

You are clueless.

/johnny

92 posted on 01/06/2013 5:52:53 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: tomkat
The kids are grown and gone. I live alone. All I have to lose is my life, and God gets my soul.

Some folks aren't in that position, but it makes it easy for me to draw a line in the sand.

/johnny

93 posted on 01/06/2013 5:55:22 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Sarabaracuda

“If you want to oppose the government do it legally. Don’t resort to intimidation and murder. That’s exactly what a terrorist does.”

Actually, terrorists attack the civilian populace, not the government entities. The goal being to change the form of government via pressure from the people, rather than by direct application of force of arms against the armed forces.


94 posted on 01/06/2013 5:59:38 PM PST by castlebrew (Gun Control means hitting where you're aiming!))
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To: JRandomFreeper
I take care of an aging mother, otherwise ditto.


(pretty good bet the bastards already knew that, but if not, F 'em)

95 posted on 01/06/2013 6:03:00 PM PST by tomkat (-/\/\/\-)
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To: Sarabaracuda
It is only coming if a few nutjobs on the rightwing fringe start shooting people they don’t agree with and give Obama the excuse he so desperatly is looking for to take the rights of the rest of us away.

You don't get it. If that's the "excuse" Obama and his minions are looking for, they'll set things up so it looks like that's exactly what happens. So if it comes, it comes. Enough with the hand-wringing.

96 posted on 01/06/2013 6:07:14 PM PST by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: ctdonath2

I know.

That attitude on the part of the governmnet is going to get a lot of good people hurt.


97 posted on 01/06/2013 6:14:36 PM PST by Dead Corpse (Sine ullo desiderio vive et ama.... Carpe diem.)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

“Id really like to know what happened to all of those Fast and Furious guns he handed out to drug pushers”

Well, we’ll just have to tune to the six-o’clock news to find out. Oops, I plum forgot, bathhouse barry is a dim.


98 posted on 01/06/2013 6:21:16 PM PST by jivin gene (Breakin' up is hard to do)
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To: Dead Corpse

“The Boy who would be King is treading on dangerous ground.”

Methinks the boy is king. Who really has the gonads to stop him?


99 posted on 01/06/2013 6:24:40 PM PST by jivin gene (Breakin' up is hard to do)
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To: Charles Martel

It is you who don’t get it. If the extremists have their way we will be plunged into a war we cannot win and the government will strip us of even more of our rights.


100 posted on 01/06/2013 6:29:28 PM PST by Sarabaracuda (Keep guns out of the hands of lunatics or the government will keep guns out of your hands.)
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