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Why Was a 2.3% ‘Medical Excise Tax’ Showing Up on Receipts from Sporting Goods Giant Cabela’s?
The Blaze ^ | January 4, 2013 | Mike Opelka

Posted on 01/05/2013 9:17:20 AM PST by yoe

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It will pay to check your receipts for the next year as the Obamacare pork rises to the top - a non health care bill is mostly a TAX as Justice Roberts said....OBAMACARE IS A TAX!. Anytime some weird or out of place "excise" tax pops up on a receipte....(the Algore excise tax is still on AT&T Bills)....ask what it is for and maybe get a reimbursement.
1 posted on 01/05/2013 9:17:27 AM PST by yoe
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To: yoe

You mean.....you mean......the customers end up paying the tax? It doesn’t come out of Obama’s stash? Cruel, cruel world.


2 posted on 01/05/2013 9:22:03 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Stillwaters

ping


3 posted on 01/05/2013 9:22:18 AM PST by lonevoice (Today I broke my personal record for most consecutive days lived)
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To: yoe

We have to pass the bill to find out what’s in it.

That excise tax also applies when you sell a house, or any financial security.

This is in addition to the Obamacare payroll tax 3.2%.


4 posted on 01/05/2013 9:24:50 AM PST by FlyingEagle
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To: yoe

It is a good thing for sales receipts to itemize all the government extortion charges. More retailers should help make it much more obvious to consumers where their money is going.


5 posted on 01/05/2013 9:26:42 AM PST by soycd
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To: yoe

The company for which I work anticipated it. In fact they (we) lobbied against it much of last year.

The estimate is that it will hit us to the tune of 40 million dollars. That’s either a lot of streamlining (”lean” processes) or layoffs.

dividends cannot be affected, so we are on pins & needles.
Well done, Congress.


6 posted on 01/05/2013 9:27:17 AM PST by SparkyBass
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To: yoe
From link: “Some tax experts say that adding the word “generally” may allow for the manufacturers and importers to pass that same 2.3% tax on to consumers through elevated prices at the retail level. At least one source at a major American manufacturer — who asked to remain anonymous because they’re not authorized to speak publicly on the matter — said the company will be forced to increase prices.
“If our profit margin is 4%, and we’re hit with an added 2.3% charge by this tax, more than half of our profit is instantly gone,” the company source said.”

This a good thing if they can charge it directly on receipts, then it is visible and not hidden. Otherwise prices go up and it looks like the seller is just trying to make more $$$.

7 posted on 01/05/2013 9:29:07 AM PST by sickoflibs (Fight like Dems, fight to win !)
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To: yoe

But since it only affects millionaires and billionaires, it doesn’t matter, right? (I can’t wait for the uninformed electorate to finally wake up.)

Yesterday it occurred to me that if they get mad about the new payroll tax, then see all these other taxes and the cost of everything going up, maybe they will turn on him. It won’t get rid of him, BUT, if they’re vocal enough, maybe it will keep him from passing anything else AND influence the 2014 election. (I’m looking for a silver lining.)


8 posted on 01/05/2013 9:30:41 AM PST by MomofMarine
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To: SparkyBass

If I see this tax on a receipt I will just put the item back and not buy it. Everyone should do this unless they need the product for health or safety reasons.


9 posted on 01/05/2013 9:33:58 AM PST by Gasshog (Welcome to the United States of Stupidos!)
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To: soycd

I went to the Cabela’s website and searched “medical tax in stores”

Here’s the result:

http://www.cabelas.com/catalog/search.cmd?form_state=searchForm&N=0&fsch=true&Ntk=AllProducts&Ntt=medical+tax+in+stores&WTz_l=Header%3BSearch-All+Products

My guess is that any product that specifically has ‘medical’ in its name is hit for this tax. Unfrigging real.....


10 posted on 01/05/2013 9:41:12 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: yoe

So, in the end, it was a computer glitch. You can get it refunded from Cabela’s.

Um, ok.


11 posted on 01/05/2013 9:47:16 AM PST by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind.)
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To: Gaffer

Nope. It was a computer glitch. Cabela’s will refund the money.


12 posted on 01/05/2013 9:49:00 AM PST by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind.)
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To: yoe

Starve the beast in 2013!


13 posted on 01/05/2013 9:50:44 AM PST by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

Good to hear but I didn’t see this in the story.


14 posted on 01/05/2013 9:56:43 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: BuckeyeTexan

I’m wondering if an ace bandage counts as a “medical device” or a training device to prevent tennis elbow.

I wonder if special shoes to prevent shin splints are medical devices.

Maybe high top basketball shoes (prevents ankle sprains) are “medical devices”.

Maybe running shoes (running is good for preventing heart attacks) are “medical devices”. Ditto for swimming suits. Come to think of it, any athletic device is good for health and maybe a “medical device”.


15 posted on 01/05/2013 10:05:31 AM PST by staytrue
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To: BuckeyeTexan

Maybe “the salad bar” is a medical device, or “fat free food” is a medical device.

Maybe automobile catalytic converters (helps asthma patients) are medical devices.

Fruits and vegetables could be medical devices (aids with bowel movements) along with vitamins.

Temperpedic beds along with Posturepedic beds, memory foam pillows might be medical devices (promotes good sleep).

I guess seat belts and air bags are on the medical device list (prevents injury in auto crash).

Homedics massagers are probably on the list too.

Dr. Schoals foot implants ditto.

Maybe alarm systems, mace, and small handguns are medical devices (helps prevent rape).

You know maybe we can balance the budget with the medical device tax afterall.


16 posted on 01/05/2013 10:13:57 AM PST by staytrue
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To: yoe; All

I believe this is a scam. I shopped at Cabela’s yesterday and there was no such ‘tax’ on my receipt, nor anyone else I know who has bought from Cabaela’s since the first of the year at several of their stores.


17 posted on 01/05/2013 10:16:32 AM PST by reaganaut (Kyrie eleison...Christe eleison...Kyrie eleison)
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To: sickoflibs

I wish there was a way of putting the actual amount of corporate tax a product has in its price on the label.


18 posted on 01/05/2013 10:43:03 AM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: sickoflibs
foolish fr a business to not itemize the taxes on the customers receipts...

i still dont understand why gas stations dont post it on the pump...

19 posted on 01/05/2013 10:49:13 AM PST by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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To: Gilbo_3
i still dont understand why gas stations dont post it on the pump...

I've seen it posted on many gas pumps in California.

20 posted on 01/05/2013 10:53:59 AM PST by reformed_dem
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To: yoe

Typically, the clerk/cashier won’t know? What can one do in that case? In any intercourse with a manaer, one must know what one is talking about. “I’m not paying this because ________.”


21 posted on 01/05/2013 10:54:29 AM PST by definitelynotaliberal
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To: staytrue
RE: #16; Are you hinting that our government could unlimitedly redefine “medical device” much as they have “commerce” so as to gain oppressive power over citizens?
22 posted on 01/05/2013 11:03:09 AM PST by fella ("As it was before Noah, so shall it be again,")
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To: GeronL
I wish there was a way of putting the actual amount of corporate tax a product has in its price on the label.

It is possible that there are as many as 100 separate taxes on just a loaf of bread. Starting with the purchase of the seed and fertilizer by the farmer, the fuel for his tractor etc. etc. all the way to the delivery and shelving of the product at your local store. Think about it. Taxes are everywhere...and YOU pay them.

23 posted on 01/05/2013 11:04:21 AM PST by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: All; staytrue

“Maybe the salad is a medical device, or fat free food& is a medical device.
Maybe automobile catalytic converters (helps asthma patients) are medical devices.
Fruits and vegetables could be medical devices (aids with bowel movements) along with vitamins.
Temperpedic beds along with Posturepedic beds, memory foam pillows might be medical devices (promotes good sleep).
I guess seat belts and air bags are on the medical device list (prevents injury in auto crash).
Homedics massagers are probably on the list too.
Dr. Schoals foot implants ditto.
Maybe alarm systems, mace, and small handguns are medical devices (helps prevent rape).
You know maybe we can balance the budget with the medical device tax afterall.”

Folks, welcome to the Arbeitsziehungslager. I have been warning this for years.


24 posted on 01/05/2013 11:16:49 AM PST by Varsity Flight (Extortion-Care is the Government Work-Camp: Arbeitsziehungslager)
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To: Gaffer

It’s in there. Read the full story at The Blaze.


25 posted on 01/05/2013 11:25:15 AM PST by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind.)
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To: reaganaut

It wasn’t a scam. It was a computer glitch. Cabela’s will refund the money to anyone who asks.


26 posted on 01/05/2013 11:27:20 AM PST by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind.)
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To: staytrue

From the article:

There are two main categories of devices exempt from the tax. First, eyeglasses, contact lenses and hearing aids are specifically listed as being exempt. The second and broader category, commonly referred to as the “Retail Exception,” exempts a device which is “of a type which is generally purchased by the general public at retail for individual use.”

So, probably, the individual items you listed are exempt.


27 posted on 01/05/2013 11:30:13 AM PST by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind.)
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To: Gaffer

bow strings? are a medical device?

Idiots, just nuts.


28 posted on 01/05/2013 11:32:33 AM PST by Texas Fossil
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To: Gaffer

Since I was over there copying something else, here ya go:

A series of phone calls to both the corporate offices of Cabela’s as well as three Texas outlets where the taxes have been showing up yielded what appears to be a satisfactory explanation and resolution.

Customer service reps for Cabela’s stated the added tax was “a computer glitch that has been fixed.” In one case, a representative offered to take my receipt information over the phone and expedite a refund to my credit card. Cash purchases that were hit with the extra 2.3% tax must return to the store for a cash refund.


29 posted on 01/05/2013 11:34:26 AM PST by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind.)
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To: yoe

From what I can see in the article, it’s expected the tax will be collected at the distributor level, thus hiding it from the consumer. If there was a mess-up here, it was in tipping the hand of the government.

Wait until people start getting their W2 forms this month. The employer’s contributions to health insurance will be listed and folks are going to get sticker shock. Heh. Good.


30 posted on 01/05/2013 11:37:24 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: Lazamataz

This turned out to be a computer glitch and Cabela’s will refund the money.

But ya gotta wonder ...

Somebody had to program this. Somebody wrote the code to charge a medical excise tax either on specific items sold at Cabela’s or on all Cabela’s receipts. Seems like a weird glitch. I can understand that they were updating their source code for taxes since it’s the beginning of the new year. And I guess they could be pulling the tax and it’s description from a database and maybe the wrong tax was indexed, but still it’s weird.


31 posted on 01/05/2013 11:46:29 AM PST by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind.)
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To: Gaffer

According to the page your search found, both tires and GPS devices are listed ... along with bow strings and just about everything else they sell. Everything must have some sort of real, poosible or imagined medical use ...


32 posted on 01/05/2013 11:47:25 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: Don Corleone

“It is possible that there are as many as 100 separate taxes on just a loaf of bread. Starting with the purchase of the seed and fertilizer by the farmer, the fuel for his tractor etc. etc. all the way to the delivery and shelving of the product at your local store. Think about it. Taxes are everywhere...and YOU pay them”

Which is why the phony “market” (along with commodities/oil) rose this week, and fed employees were after raises, because of the cliff extortion

Many (if not most) have been behavior-conditioned, and bred into, that propaganda that “Bush” tax rates are a good thing, not realizing that had the “cliff” not gone through the market drops 400 > points, and the savings (in multiples) begins at the store.

Those that think they are not double or triple COST-”taxed” because of the “Bush” so called “cut”, are totally brainwashed or behaviorally-conditioned inbred, never having experienced a 5 and 10, 37 cents/gallon, nickle candy bar, 1200$ VW, nice brand new OWNED (not rented-payments from a bank) for under 3000$ brand new, and a nice new home under 20K.

Those that “think” the preservation of the “Bush” (”mark my words, no new taxes” Family) “cuts” RATES) saved them money, are now subject to sustained higher price pressures, or price pressured to spend less, lowering their living standard.

Productivity is not matching, nor sustaining these levels, and the reason feds wanted pay raises.


33 posted on 01/05/2013 11:48:20 AM PST by Varsity Flight (Extortion-Care is the Government Work-Camp: Arbeitsziehungslager)
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To: staytrue

Toothbrushes and tampons count ...


34 posted on 01/05/2013 11:48:43 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: yoe

We had dinner in San Francisco a couple of weeks ago and there was a 4% charge tacked onto the dinner bill for “Employer Mandates”.

My health insurance premium went up 27% this year (144% last year) I don’t understand, I thought all this health care stuff was supposed to be free??? /s


35 posted on 01/05/2013 11:48:59 AM PST by TMD (Behind enemy lines.....)
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To: yoe

download irs form 720 and look at part II - there has been an excise tax on some sporting goods for years, so I wonder if they just mislabeled what was being taxed?


36 posted on 01/05/2013 11:53:53 AM PST by IFly4Him
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To: Gasshog
If I see this tax on a receipt I will just put the item back and not buy it.

Uh....

37 posted on 01/05/2013 11:58:29 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

“And I guess they could be pulling the tax and its description from a database and maybe the wrong tax was indexed, but still its weird.”

Not it isn’t, the MO for the shakedown gang. Move the goalposts shakedowns.

In fact, what is happening is now a “duty”/”tariffs” on each “citizen” by 1. behavior (any), and 2. movement (anywhere)...now SUBJECTs of the State.

“Extortion-Care is the Government Work-Camp: Arbeitsziehungslager”


38 posted on 01/05/2013 11:58:29 AM PST by Varsity Flight (Extortion-Care is the Government Work-Camp: Arbeitsziehungslager)
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To: soycd

I notice that gas pumps no longer list the state and fed fuel taxes.


39 posted on 01/05/2013 12:06:26 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Varsity Flight

Yeah, I get that, but the federal government didn’t program the software that prints Cabela’s receipts. It’s a weird computer glitch.


40 posted on 01/05/2013 12:06:38 PM PST by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind.)
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To: Varsity Flight

Work makes you free.


41 posted on 01/05/2013 12:07:37 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Revolting cat!

What’s a giant cabela and why is there a tax on it?


42 posted on 01/05/2013 12:12:07 PM PST by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: yoe

             

43 posted on 01/05/2013 12:12:18 PM PST by tomkat (-/\/\/\-)
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To: Gaffer; Revolting cat!
My guess is that any product that specifically has ‘medical’ in its name is hit for this tax. Unfrigging real.....

The price of my rheumatism medicine is going up?!!!


44 posted on 01/05/2013 12:19:56 PM PST by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: yoe

Here it is. Got to pass the bill to see what is in it!

http://www.snopes.com/politics/taxes/medicaldevice.asp

Good Hunting... from Varmint Al

45 posted on 01/05/2013 3:30:14 PM PST by Varmint Al
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To: yoe; All

So...the Medical Excise Tax on Cabela’s purchases is for the use of medical equipment to remove the bullets and fragments from Obama’s Amish Children when they are tagged during a crime?

I prefer a Cap on Taxes than a Tax on Capping....


46 posted on 01/05/2013 5:32:31 PM PST by SeminoleCounty (Fiscal Conservatives are Neither)
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To: Paladin2

Work makes you free.

The Son makes you free.


47 posted on 01/05/2013 5:50:55 PM PST by Varsity Flight (Extortion-Care is the Government Work-Camp: Arbeitsziehungslager)
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To: yoe

I hope it says OBAMACARE MED TAX on every receipt.


48 posted on 01/05/2013 5:55:14 PM PST by Chickensoup (Leftist Totalitarian Fascism coming to a country like yours.)
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To: Varsity Flight

49 posted on 01/05/2013 7:23:07 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: yoe

The original intent, as I understand it, was for medical devices, such as pacemakers or wheelchairs, to now be taxed.

I’ve heard some people interpret this to also include every piece of gauze, or cotton swab used by a dentist when having your teeth cleaned, now being taxed.

I suspect at some point, any item used in the medical profession which may be purchased over the counter, will not fall into the medical device category, otherwise they could also be deductible items.


50 posted on 01/05/2013 7:32:25 PM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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