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FDA begins implementing sweeping food-safety law
Washington Post ^ | January 4, 2013 | Brady Dennis

Posted on 01/04/2013 7:45:19 PM PST by Vince Ferrer

The Obama administration moved ahead Friday with the first major overhaul of the nation’s food-safety system in more than 70 years, proposing tough new standards for fruit and vegetable producers and food manufacturers.

The long-awaited proposals by the Food and Drug Administration are part of a fundamental change aimed at preventing food-borne outbreaks — caused by everything from leafy greens to canteloupes to peanut butter — rather than simply reacting to them. Every year, contaminated foods sicken an estimated 48 million Americans and kill 3,000.

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KEYWORDS: agenda21; bho44; bhofda; fda; foodsupply
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Obama's economic philosophy can be summed in the broken window fallacy. From forcing power producers to switch power plants before their operating life is over, to car manufacturers redesigning cars to fit his new CAFE standards, to adding wheelchair access to swimming pools , to now redesigning food distribution and increasing the cost of food, everyone in business has to conform to his priorities, rather than work on their own priorities.
1 posted on 01/04/2013 7:45:25 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: Vince Ferrer

” - - - everyone in business has to conform to his priorities - - - “

That is why B. Hussein Obama is a Communist Dictator.


2 posted on 01/04/2013 7:48:58 PM PST by Graewoulf ((Traitor John Roberts' Commune Obama"care" violates Anti-Trust Laws, AND the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: Vince Ferrer
Obama wants to be Stalin. From wikipedia:

On 7 August 1932 a law came into force that stipulated that all food was state property and that mere possession of food was evidence of a crime.

You want to control people? Control their food.

3 posted on 01/04/2013 7:52:04 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (Nothing will change until after the war.)
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To: Graewoulf

I would label him as a fascist over communist. Communists like to own businesses, but fascists just like to tell others what to do with their businesses, or else.


4 posted on 01/04/2013 7:52:41 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: Vince Ferrer
Now food will become astronomically expensive.

All part of the plan to starve the peasants so the ruling-class can live in the Walden paradise they deserve.

5 posted on 01/04/2013 7:54:14 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("More law, less justice." --Cicero)
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To: ClearCase_guy
You want to control people? Control their food.

I'll kill my food.

F U B O!

6 posted on 01/04/2013 7:59:03 PM PST by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: Vince Ferrer

as with all statist edicts, this will further raise prices while actually decreasing food safety.


7 posted on 01/04/2013 8:03:57 PM PST by dadfly
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To: Vince Ferrer

” - - - but fascists just like to tell others what to do with their businesses, or else.”

So a gangsta would be a fascist?


8 posted on 01/04/2013 8:07:08 PM PST by Graewoulf ((Traitor John Roberts' Commune Obama"care" violates Anti-Trust Laws, AND the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: Graewoulf

“That is why B. Hussein Obama is a Communist Dictator.”

I think fascist is a better term. A communist wants the state to own everything (thus The People really own it), while a fascist allows private ownership of business but has a big say in how that business is run, from wages to products to, well, just about everything is regulated by some central fascist authority.


9 posted on 01/04/2013 8:07:55 PM PST by DBrow
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To: Graewoulf

The only difference is that a fascist has the force of law behind him.


10 posted on 01/04/2013 8:09:57 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: unixfox

Did Michael Taylor NOT come from MONSANTO ?
Yes indeed he did!
AND what does Monsanto produce? Why it just may be genetically modified food! Or as those of us who pay attention, it’s called GMO seed for Genetically Modified Organism.

Yum! Tasty , built in insecticides like, Bt. (Bacillus Thuringenesis)

95 % of the soy in this country is GMO... who knew? So is the corn....Who knew?

THIS is Agenda 21 and Michael Taylor is getting his payoff for being the face of true evil.

What do you suppose happens to your gut after you eat this?

Just sayin’.


11 posted on 01/04/2013 8:10:58 PM PST by acapesket
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To: Graewoulf

Organized crime is like government, or government is organized crime. I can never tell which. The protection rackets are the most obvious parallel. Even when gangsters meet market demand, as with women, licker, feel good pills, loose cigarettes, soon sody pop in NYC, or games of chance, they do so by violently enforcing their monopoly, exactly like government.


12 posted on 01/04/2013 8:12:37 PM PST by Tublecane
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To: Vince Ferrer

It’s not like people all over the country dropping dead from “unsafe” food.......


13 posted on 01/04/2013 8:13:06 PM PST by basil (Second Amendment Sisters.org)
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To: Vince Ferrer

But what is the force of law but implied and actual violence that’s generally accepted as legitimate? I’m sure from time to time, here and there, gangsters have cut out their own little polities accepted by locals as every bit as legitimate as the state.


14 posted on 01/04/2013 8:15:26 PM PST by Tublecane
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To: Vince Ferrer

1. control food

2. control guns

3. control insurance

4. control the medical system

5. control the environment

6. control waterways

7. control schools

8. control unions

9. control the internet

10. control transportation

WHAT DID I MISS..?


15 posted on 01/04/2013 8:19:04 PM PST by gaijin
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To: Vince Ferrer

John Stossel will have plenty of fodder for his program these next four years. We’re going to be regulated to death if not by other means.


16 posted on 01/04/2013 8:19:41 PM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (IMPEACH OBAMA)
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To: dadfly
as with all statist edicts, this will further raise prices while actually decreasing food safety.

And think of who this will hit. He is already hitting hard the low cost restaurant industry with ObamaCare, now he is increasing the price of food. This may not affect the large franchises as much, because most of them enforce higher standards than the old rules anyway, but for many it will raise the price of food as well.

He is also just hitting customers everywhere with a tax increase, so they will be in the mood to save money.

High end restaurants will survive, because the rich can pay no matter what the price, and every man needs a place to impress a girl. But on the low end, it is very price sensitive, and people can always bring a lunch pail to work. For the small restaurants and grocers, they are getting hit from every angle.

17 posted on 01/04/2013 8:23:37 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: Vince Ferrer

I would have rather the enemy had come in uniform.


18 posted on 01/04/2013 8:27:52 PM PST by Gator113 (**WHO in the hell gave the damn order to NOT rescue our men in Benghazi?**)
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To: gaijin
9. control the internet speech

And I think you're there.

19 posted on 01/04/2013 8:32:54 PM PST by mykroar ("I'm afraid I can't use a mule. I have several hundred up on Capitol Hill." - Ronald Reagan)
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To: Gator113

POST OF THE DAY!


20 posted on 01/04/2013 8:33:19 PM PST by Shadowstrike (Be polite, Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: Vince Ferrer

All yer foods are belong ta us.


21 posted on 01/04/2013 8:36:35 PM PST by Jyotishi (Seeking the truth, a fact at a time.)
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To: gaijin

Control thought.


22 posted on 01/04/2013 8:40:09 PM PST by Jyotishi (Seeking the truth, a fact at a time.)
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To: unixfox

“I’ll kill my food”

Why do you think they have re-introduced the wolf. (statement, does not require a ?)


23 posted on 01/04/2013 8:40:23 PM PST by Cold Heart
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To: ClearCase_guy

I just looked that up and the rest of the paragraph is “food for thought”: Among the most enthusiastic enforcers of the law were urban members of youth organisations, educated under the Soviet system, who fanned out into the countryside in order to prevent the “theft” of state property. They constructed and staffed watchtowers (over 700 in the Odessa region alone) to ensure that no peasants took food home from the fields. The youth brigades lived off the land, eating what they confiscated from the peasants. They often humiliated the starving peasants by forcing them to box each other for sport, or forcing them to crawl and bark like dogs. Under the pretext of grain confiscation, the brigades routinely raped women living alone.[58]


24 posted on 01/04/2013 8:43:31 PM PST by Rusty0604
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To: DBrow; All

” - - - A communist wants the state to own everything - - - “

So does that make the Federal Housing Agency a Communist entity?

They own more home loans (by way of Federal Loan guarantees) than any other entity.

Is Obama”care” also a Communist entity?


25 posted on 01/04/2013 8:43:56 PM PST by Graewoulf ((Traitor John Roberts' Commune Obama"care" violates Anti-Trust Laws, AND the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: Vince Ferrer

Higher food prices and more small businesses eliminated. More jobs lost.


26 posted on 01/04/2013 8:46:43 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: basil
It’s not like people all over the country dropping dead from “unsafe” food.......

Around 3,000 people in the US die every year, and around 48 million become ill. There are always food recalls.

I got food poisoning a few months ago. I had to get an IV for dehydration, and pills to stop the nausea. It was not fun.

I haven't seen the text of the law, to know if it is based on scientific advice, or if it is just another power-grab in the name of a legitimate government function. Maintaining food safety is a huge challenge.

27 posted on 01/04/2013 8:49:44 PM PST by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: Vince Ferrer

Mark


28 posted on 01/04/2013 8:55:42 PM PST by sport
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To: Tublecane
Organized crime is like government, or government is organized crime. I can never tell which.

That's easy. The Mob has a code and therre are some things that even they won't do. Progs have no such restrictions as the ends always justity the means.

29 posted on 01/04/2013 8:58:50 PM PST by Drill Thrawl (The Progs are pushing for war. Be ready.)
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To: Vince Ferrer

You always have to watch what Obama is doing with his other hand. While all the media’s attention has kept us focused on the Fiscal Cliff, Obama’s regulatory people just slipped a big one past us that could have much more enduring and profound consequences on our country. Similar to his EPA declaring CO2 to be a hazardous substance. Similar to his regulations requiring “economic justice” to be factored into every federal government funded transportation project.


30 posted on 01/04/2013 9:32:39 PM PST by Avid Coug
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To: Vince Ferrer
It's starting to feel like the cold, calculating logic of simple self-interest is going to dictate that the makers start looking to outside-the-US opportunities.

Maybe it's time to form a "virtual nation"? Let the physical nations compete for the benefits of the economy of a virtual economy that is always ready and able to relocate elsewhere. (I'm not sure this is possible?)

31 posted on 01/04/2013 9:48:40 PM PST by The Duke
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To: The Duke

If I were in the food production business, I would look at either exporting, or importing the food I used. If as a farmer I didn’t have to have these new regulations if I exported, or if I could just import food, I may do that.


32 posted on 01/04/2013 9:54:25 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: Vince Ferrer
"Produce farmers would be required to ensure that their crops aren’t contaminated by bad water or animal waste. Some will likely be compelled to build fences to keep out wildlife . . . Food industry groups welcomed the proposals . . . The FDA estimated that the produce regulations would cost a large farm roughly $30,000 a year.

The stupidity of our government is breathtaking. I wash produce before eating it. That is a dramatically more sensible option than trying to keep birds, bunnies, squirrels, and for all we know bees from entering farmland. As for adding $30k to a farm's annual costs, I don't think anyone in the Obama Administration has even the slightest clue how economics works (unless they really are trying to destroy our economy).

33 posted on 01/04/2013 10:24:33 PM PST by Pollster1 (Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: Pollster1
As for adding $30k to a farm's annual costs,

And don't forget, the inheritance taxes are back now. Many large farms will have to be sold instead of inherited and farmed.

34 posted on 01/04/2013 10:34:26 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: Vince Ferrer

This means more families will be harvesting their meals from dumpsters.


35 posted on 01/04/2013 11:26:16 PM PST by clearcarbon
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To: gaijin

“WHAT DID I MISS..?”

The air that we breathe or perhaps the CO2 we exhale.


36 posted on 01/05/2013 3:07:20 AM PST by Artie (We are surrounded by MORONS)
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To: Vince Ferrer

Let’s not blow this out of proportion. For 70 years we’ve been suffering and now, finally, somebody’s doing something about our safe, cheap food.


37 posted on 01/05/2013 3:29:01 AM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Vince Ferrer

CONTROL EVERYTHING


38 posted on 01/05/2013 3:53:53 AM PST by ronnie raygun (Being Breitbart)
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To: exDemMom

It sure is a huge challenge! I mean, there’s no way mankind could feed themselves and survive WITHOUT THIS LAW, is there?

This is yet another unconstitutional power grab.


39 posted on 01/05/2013 4:22:50 AM PST by dinodino
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To: clearcarbon
This means more families will be harvesting their meals from dumpsters.

NEXT: FDA regulated dumpsters.....

40 posted on 01/05/2013 4:57:58 AM PST by libertarian27 (Check my profile page for links to the 2011 & 2012 FR Cookbooks- Enjoy)
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To: Graewoulf
That is why B. Hussein Obama is a Communist Dictator.

Yeah but many here campaigned against Romney and so for the pos dicatator Obama.

It took stupid government 4 years to come up with these non-flexible laws and regulations. Oh yeah that's going to help innovation and productivity? NOT. government moves at snails pace and is dictaorial . leave the free market alone you socialists pos, including you communist obama pos.

How much more are we going to take? We should secede and ban the stupid FDA,EPA, IRS, government schools etc.

Government should only do the military,border control, international issues.

my Constitution

We the people understand that government concentrates power and that absolute power corrupts absolutely. so in order to limit government and to preserve our freedom and individual rights, to protect our bill of rights we set up this constitution. We understand that in addition to being corrupt, evil , inefficient government just never works as well as the free market (capitallism) by orders of magnitude. So government should be limited to just the military, border control , immigration limiting, and international issues. All other functions should be left to the people and the free market. Only laws which protect individual rights to ownership, including gun ownership that preserve life and individual rights such as free speech, right to privacy, right to own property shall be allowed(of course including local laws against assault, murder,stealing, rape,trespassing). but we realize that science, government and especially the media will create false crisis in order to con the people into voting in more government power and at the same time less individual rights ( as in the “fiscal cliff”, global warming hoaxes of the media, government and science).We realize that the only threat to us is the government and media and such fake science. With google, the millions of products in the free market (thousands of which come out every day and many which cost only a $1 at the dollar tree) we can find the solution to practically all our problems and don't need government at any level , nor the media to tell us what to do or to solve our problems for us with all their government red tape( fema) and thousands of rules and regulations that don't make sense and slow down the free market.

This is only a first draft I just came up with and is not complete. any one have any ides to improve or add or delete of modify?

41 posted on 01/05/2013 5:18:20 AM PST by Democrat_media (media makes mass shooters household names to create more & take our guns)
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To: Vince Ferrer

“...and that animals stay out of fields.”

WTF? Has anyone told the “free range farmers” about this?

I know the bureaucrats in Europe are so bacteriophobic that they demand beer and live culture cheeses be Pasteurized to kill the bacteria. But preventing animals from grazing in fields? Are they essentially proposing that all farm animals must be penned for their entire lives?


42 posted on 01/05/2013 5:26:28 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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To: acapesket
Don't worry. BT is safe and natural - just one of the many things the good Lord put here to make our lives better.

So, don't fear the bug, fear the gov.

My wife and I have been organic gardening, producing a sizable portion of our yearly food, using manure and BT for several decades now.

43 posted on 01/05/2013 5:37:33 AM PST by Aevery_Freeman (The trouble with the "masses" is that they never achieve the "m")
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To: dinodino
The first clause of Article I, Section 8, reads, "The Congress shall have Power to lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States."

Maintaining a safe food supply falls into the category of "general Welfare." It is difficult to see how the free market could ensure a safe food supply, without a system in place to test food, without adequate science-based regulations and policies in place as a guide, or without a central clearing-house for information that must be disseminated rapidly to millions of people. Because in any system that depends on a free market reacting to a problem, people will needlessly get hurt or even killed by the time a problem is even discovered (if it can be identified at all).

I have no issue with the federal government fulfilling its constitutional duties. The problem I see is that legitimate constitutional functions are used as an excuse to cross over into tyranny (like forcing restaurants to stop using salt, even though it is a necessary nutrient).

44 posted on 01/05/2013 5:47:40 AM PST by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: DBrow
Under Stalin, all the business owners were shot.

Under Hitler, all the business owners who didn't do as they were told, were shot.

Cheers!

45 posted on 01/05/2013 6:36:56 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: gaijin
WHAT DID I MISS..?

self control (on their part).

46 posted on 01/05/2013 6:39:43 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: exDemMom

It says it “shall have the power,” not, “it must do.”

Abuse of the General Welfare clause is the most-employed method of unconstitutional expansion of Federal powers.


47 posted on 01/05/2013 7:14:33 AM PST by dinodino
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To: Vince Ferrer
proposing tough new standards for fruit and vegetable producers and food

You didn't produce that! Someone else did.

48 posted on 01/05/2013 7:40:11 AM PST by VRW Conspirator (We were the tea party before there was a tea party. - Jim Robinson)
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To: Vince Ferrer
proposing tough new standards for fruit and vegetable producers and food

You didn't produce that! Someone else did.

49 posted on 01/05/2013 7:40:24 AM PST by VRW Conspirator (We were the tea party before there was a tea party. - Jim Robinson)
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To: acapesket

Yes, exactly, BO basically works for Monsanto. They should just call it “sweeping Franken-fake-food safety.”

How come the kings and queens demand all organic food in the White House? While we the peasants eat poison.


50 posted on 01/05/2013 7:56:04 AM PST by Borax Queen
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