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Dave Grossman: First-Person Shooter Videogames Should be Banned
January 4 | Katechon

Posted on 01/04/2013 5:43:51 PM PST by Katechon

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To: Bryanw92
"If you stop letting boys be boys, they will store up all their energy and it will be released explosively. Look at how feminine these young adult shooters look. That’s what’s wrong with them."

At first blush some might think you're crazy.. But I didn't, and you're onto something. I have been ranting for years how the only 'father figures' boys have are females; At home, in the schools and in daycare. It all boils down to the fact that we are VIOLATING GOD'S PLAN FOR MANKIND and it all started with a bunch of progressive liberal man-hater lesbians in the 1960's who decided to convince American women to abandon their children for their careers. The sneaky progressive liberal plot to shatter the American family unit succeeded and we've been paying the price ever since.

141 posted on 01/04/2013 7:21:36 PM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (IMPEACH OBAMA)
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To: JRandomFreeper

OK thats twice on one thread we are on the same thought.

Are you sure you aren’t my other personality? Cuz I got a few...;) Do not...DO TOO!!!


142 posted on 01/04/2013 7:22:13 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: Norm Lenhart
Simple innate superiority of cooks everywhere. We have to run a few seconds ahead of the thoughts of the crowd.

It's a quantum thing.

/johnny

143 posted on 01/04/2013 7:28:36 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Obviously, since the comparaison comes from the function of the brain, we need to compare intra-species — not violence, but murder — among mamalians only.

And Grossman was not talking about war machines, but about individual massacres, and about the reluctance of individual riflemen to aim to kill.

So what’s your point about the 19th century or the 100 years war?


144 posted on 01/04/2013 7:29:57 PM PST by Katechon
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To: Norm Lenhart
Seems like something is missing...

Like the troll who left without ever answering a simple question.

He isn't going to either. He stepped into a maelstrom of righteous slapdown because his s*#t is weak. Now comes backpedalling and silence.

145 posted on 01/04/2013 7:31:36 PM PST by TADSLOS (I took extra credit at the School of Hard Knocks)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Lol, indeed: every villages and cities in Thailand is crowded with internet cafés inhabited by gamers.


146 posted on 01/04/2013 7:32:54 PM PST by Katechon
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To: TADSLOS

I left only a while ; had some stuff to do. I did not left.


147 posted on 01/04/2013 7:34:20 PM PST by Katechon
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To: Katechon; sten

Let’s say these “natural born killers” each kill one person. To keep the math easy, let’s assume that they all kill people who aren’t themselves natural born killers.

In a population of approximately 315 million, that would be 12,600,000 murders. Now, they wouldn’t do that all at once, so let’s say that they commit them over a 20 year period and (again, to keep the math simple) there aren’t any murders before or after the 20 year period.

That’s 630,000 murders per year. Let’s be really generous and cut it in half. 315,000 per year.

There are well less than 20,000 murders in the United States every year. Your guy appears to be off by hundreds of thousands of murderers no matter how we slice this.

If 4% of Americans are natural born killers, they ain’t killing anyone. And that’s BEFORE we factor in this silly video game theory. Maybe they’re too busy playing Halo 4 to kill anyone.


148 posted on 01/04/2013 7:34:57 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (Don't worry about the cliff. We're going to all land on some rich guy's wallet.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Yea well the service sucks. I’ve been waiting weeks now and no sammich!

Probably full of calimari anyway...;)


149 posted on 01/04/2013 7:35:16 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: Katechon

Good. Answer the question.


150 posted on 01/04/2013 7:36:10 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: KC_Lion
More gamer fun:
151 posted on 01/04/2013 7:37:08 PM PST by EEGator
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To: Mr. Silverback

It’s not about reducing gangs in the ‘hood and drudlords and the insane violence FPS videogames.

I never was about that.

It was about thinking about the role of FPS videogames in today’s violence, as Grossman suggests we do.


152 posted on 01/04/2013 7:38:35 PM PST by Katechon
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To: Norm Lenhart

Which question?


153 posted on 01/04/2013 7:39:24 PM PST by Katechon
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To: Katechon

This week, Al Sharpton was demanding tight gun control restrictions on his radio show. A caller asked him what he would do when the murderers in our society began using knives instead of guns. Al said that at that point we would ban knives.

If we banned video games and young gangbangers still killed each other in the streets, people like you and Grossman would just blame movies or television. If you don’t recognize now that the problem is a problem of the heart, you won’t recognize it later. Like Al Sharpton, you will simply change targets.


154 posted on 01/04/2013 7:39:43 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (Don't worry about the cliff. We're going to all land on some rich guy's wallet.)
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To: Katechon

No such role has an iota of peer reviewed evidence to back the assertion.

So are you going to answer the question a number of us asked you?


155 posted on 01/04/2013 7:40:09 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: Katechon

How about paying attention to the conversation going on on this thread?


156 posted on 01/04/2013 7:41:22 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: Katechon
It was about thinking about the role of FPS videogames in today’s violence, as Grossman suggests we do.

You mean the role of FPS videogames in reducing today's violence?

157 posted on 01/04/2013 7:42:07 PM PST by Strategerist
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To: Norm Lenhart

If the question is “So are you going to ever address the now several posters who have lifetines of FPS games and no real world kills? If not, why not?” then I’ve already answered it:

it creates the potential; it disaffects from murder; its deactivate the innate resistance to murder (according to Grossman, here, no me).

That does not mean that it would transform every FPS gamer into an actual killer.

It operates on a collective level; so the realm of statistics should be applied here, not random testimony by Freepers.


158 posted on 01/04/2013 7:43:12 PM PST by Katechon
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To: Katechon

What about the FACT that millions of people play them daily and do not kill anyone?

You DO realize FR has a sizable gamer contingent do you not?

Are we all killers in training waiting to snap?

Yes or no because you cannot have it both ways


159 posted on 01/04/2013 7:43:40 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: Katechon

You assert facts not in evidence. where is the evidence to back the assertion? Peer reviewed evidence that proves that the data on the ground is wrong.


160 posted on 01/04/2013 7:45:40 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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