Skip to comments.The Great New Year Stampede: Americans Rushing to beat Obamacare and gun bans.
Posted on 01/03/2013 7:07:37 AM PST by SeekAndFind
There is a New Year stampede developing that we have not seen for a long time.
Gun stores are swamped with panicking customers. They are looking for handguns, semiautomatic rifles, and as much ammunition as they can afford. But buyers are not just camouflaged hunters, conspiracy theorists, and gun hoarders. Instead, many of those purchasing firearms and ammo are so-called ordinary people, convinced that this administration will soon begin to centrally register and then ban far more than assault rifles.
There were probably lots of reasons why Adam Lanza shot 26 innocent children and adults at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Conn. But so far the government and media are not focusing much on his prior obsessions with violent video games, on societys seeming inability to hospitalize the unstable, or on the crude violence peddled in Hollywood and through popular music that portrays shooting people as a sort of cheap fantasy without consequences.
Instead, the administration is zeroing in on the ability of Lanzas mother to legally buy semiautomatic weapons that her son then stole to murder her and the schoolchildren and employees. The result is a pandemic of fear that the Second Amendment will be reinterpreted and redefined as never before.
With the resolution of the fiscal cliff, taxes on those who make more than $400,000 are going to rise considerably as they will revert to the Clinton-era rates. But this time the landscape is radically different.
There will not be much deficit reduction and certainly no balanced budgets, adding insult to injury for those who must pay the government far more.
The new, higher rates come on top of state-income-tax hikes in much of the country all in addition to further increases in capital-gains taxes, new Obamacare taxes, and much steeper inheritance taxes. The result is not just a 3 percent to 5 percent increase on the well-off, but for some payers aggregate hikes of 7 percent to 8 percent or even more.
No wonder many companies are rushing to pay dividends now to beat rising capital-gains-tax rates. Likewise, many individuals are considering expensive new life-insurance policies to protect their heirs from losing small farms and businesses to steep new federal estate taxes. Red states will attract even more refugees fleeing high-tax and near-insolvent blue states.
Most Americans are already seeing their health-insurance premiums shoot up in anticipation of the 2014 federal takeover of health care. To pay for the vast Obamacare programs whose details still remain a mystery for most money will be raised in all sorts of bizarre ways, from reducing Medicare coverage to taxing new medical devices and some drug makers.
A sense of foreboding hangs over the currently insured. Almost everyone is unsure whether the new federal statutes will still cover currently covered procedures or whether they will be rationed or curtailed altogether. Expect many people to schedule check-ups and major medical procedures in 2013 before Obamacare kicks in.
There is a common denominator that underlies all this multifaceted uncertainty. Fairly or not, there is a sense that those who played by the rules and did well have instead done something wrong, or at least are under suspicion and it is now time for their government to seek atonement from them. Worse still is the dread that the governments new policies and taxes will not solve problems but may make them worse and prompt even more government engineering.
For the law-abiding gun owner, the federal government may make it more difficult to buy legal arms even though there is little evidence that gun restrictions per se have stopped shootings, and some evidence that states with lots of armed citizens have lower crime rates. If the semiautomatic-rifle ban does not work, what gun will be banned next to stop violence?
Most well-off taxpayers add up their local, state, federal, payroll, and capital-gains taxes and feel they really have paid their fair share. They all know that handing over more wont solve the fiscal crisis, but instead will only empower more government deficit spending. If new taxes wont stop deficits, whats next?
Finally, those who budgeted and provided their own health insurance feel that the new restrictions and higher taxes on their coverage are the costs of subsidizing many who could have bought, but chose not to buy, their own health insurance.
The ability of citizens to protect their households, to keep at least half their earnings safe from various government taxes, and to use their own judgment in making health-care decisions is central to a free people. No wonder the fear that a radically growing government will infringe on such traditional freedoms is stampeding millions of panicky Americans in all directions.
Victor Davis Hanson is a classicist and historian at the Hoover Institution, Stanford University, and the author, most recently, of The End of Sparta.
I admit it. I bought one for the first time.
I’m trying to by a new 7.62 semi-auto. No luck at all so far.
Vote with your $.
Buy hard goods as inflation hedge.
If bed breaks, mattress won’t hit the ground, but may be a little hard.
It was the corrupt MSM that elected and then floated Bill Clinton. It was the corrupt MSM that prevented information about Obama from causing him political damage and thus enabling him to be elected. It was the corrupt MSM that reelected Obama despite the abject misery.
Coupled with a nation of people who have absolutely no spiritual and moral foundation and you have a people who believe anything pop culture pitches them.
Unless there is a spiritual revival of huge proportions in this land we are doomed.
.....but did not Sandy Hook come along at the most convenient time for this administration?...right on the heels of F&F?....it has to be a coincidence since there is NOBODY who would engineer such a tragedy just to further an agenda......
.....or is there?
When they come for the guns, and that will be sooner, I think, than later, the decision will have been made to sovietize the USA completely and things will move very quickly. The killings and disappearances will begin and targeted famines. George W Kerensky has been followed by Barrack Hussein Lenin. The guns will be confiscated when the military has been satisfactorily neutralized which operation is probably well under weigh.
Seemingly, every department's reason for existence is to expand itself. To finance this expansion, fedgov is borrowing 40 cents of every dollar it spends. Most of this money is borrowed from the Federal Reserve, in essense fedgov borrows from fedgov to finance fedgov. This will not end well. Am I missing something?
The Illinois legislature is poised to take away all modern guns, including those that were grandfathered in, from registered gun owners.
The government plans to seize them one way or the other.
I did my part yesterday.
Subject: thinking on your feet
Tim decided to tie the knot with his long time girlfriend. One evening, after the honeymoon, he was assembling some loads for an upcoming hunt.
His wife was standing there at the bench watching him. After along period of silence she finally speaks. “Honey, I’ve been thinking, now that we are married I think it’s time you quit hunting, shooting, handloading, and fishing. Maybe you should sell your guns and boat.”
Tim gets this horrified look on his face.
She says, “Darling, what’s wrong?”
There for a minute you were sounding like my ex-wife.
“Ex wife!” she screams, “I didn’t know you were married before!”
Good for you. Consider it a badge of citizenship.
You have nailed it about the corrupt MSM. The sad thing is that they are exeptionally well versed in “doublethink”. They are very good at lying to themselves.
With the new media, we have a chance, but we have to fight. Giving up is not an option. We have no where to flee.
I held an AR-15 (on sale) in my hands about a week before the school shooting, but I just could not bring myself to buy something so ugly. I am thinking another M1 Garand instead. They still have some at the CMP.
Members of the military I know tell me they will not be part of any confiscations down the road. Gun owners tell me there will be civil insurrection and vigilantism before they give them up. All I know is that our country only functions through voluntary compliance of our laws by the majority. If the majority refuses to comply, it doesn’t matter what Big Ears has to say. We shall see.
So, freepers, if I join the NRA, will that info be published anywhere?
I finally have all the parts on order to build one. Not my original plan, nor my original timing for this purchase, but not much choice. I believe the best we will get is grandfathering in what is currently in your possession. I have a second lower and LPK that I need to figure out what to do with. I really want a .308 but the parts on those are $$$$, and the extra lower wont work for it.
It does not matter. You are on Freerepublic. You are already on a higher priority list than the NRA.
The NRA sends its members print magazines, so the post office already has that list.
I do not think the NRA list is available via google search. I should have read your question more carefully before I posted!
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Most of the military will be sidelined, “kept in the barracks,” so to speak. The confiscaion will be attempted using the army of federal, state, and local SWATs, of which there are far more than most people imagine, and by TSA, Forest Service, DOE DEA, AFT, and SIEU etc. etc. Billions of bullets to the “civilian” agencies this past year, remember?
Folks, write to your representatives and senators. Call them. Also contact your state representatives and senators, if gun control bills are coming to them. Join the NRA and state Second Amendment rights organizations, or at least send donations to them.
That said, it appears that most of the money and efforts against our Second Amendment are going into Colorado this time. Their national efforts won’t be likely to pass the US House.
In Colorado (recent recipient of large numbers of people moving from the west coast and the northeast), they are attempting to root their agenda and go from there. The Colorado legislature is now a Democrat majority, and the Governor is a Democrat. Some State Assembly Democrats there would vote against gun control measures, though, if they felt that voting in favor of them is too unwise (volumes of letters and calls they receive).
They should also know that more gun control laws will also adversely affect the State’s economy (tourism, hunting, etc.).
Calirado is much further to the left than most of you know (big city regulations in rural areas, big federal funding and much more). Residents of some states tend to cheerlead for their states regardless of true political conditions, because they depend on big government for their incomes. Although leaning far to the left on most issues, Caliradans in both socialist political parties like firearms, especially the tacticool kind. Such firearms are in style, and don’t you know the planet Niburu is heading our way. ;-) [Little humor there.]
“All rifle, upper half, lower half, and lower receiver orders.”
Sometime in the last few days, it said that the lead time was a year. Now, it says that they’re not taking orders on those items.
There were rumors a few days ago, that other manufacturers were also backed up for about a year.
The few Democrats leading efforts against our Second Amendment said months ago, that they were going to try to affect supplies (raise prices, lower availability). Looks like they’ve done it again.
I got a Taurus Judge. The idea of a revolver handgun that shoots shotgun rounds appealed to me. After taking it to the range, I don’t regret the decision.
Happy New Year!
Have a happy one, yourself.
I could only imagine what would now occur if the feds tried anything around these parts. Most the locals and Indians hunt with old military guns, M1's, SKS's, Ar's, and Aks. All the open river for the park service to patrol and all that forested woods along the bank; could become a problem; maybe they should agent orange the bank for 100 yards on both sides.
We live in a conservative state, with conservative government that already puts word out to state police not to enforce fed law that goes against the constitution. I do believe that if the feds tried such lunacy, it would end with the non compliance of the populace, rejection by the state government, and could mushroom into civil disorder the likes the left can't imagine; maybe that's what they want but the end result would hurt Big "O" more than would help him. They need the populace to abide by the law voluntarily or the country will fall into turmoil and their future plans will be short tracked. When the law is seen as unconstitutional by the populace, they won't support or abide by that law; it's always been that way. Gun control has always hurt the dems at the ballot box.
I'm too far along in my life to give up my constitutional rights to anybody and I know most everybody around here feel the same, they won't become slaves. I have a friend that is now dying of cancer, I'd rather go out for an important concept if need be and for that reason, I don't live in fear of all the fed agencies that you mentioned. Just my makeup I guess and there's millions more just like me all over America.
My son and I were at the gun shop this last weekend. He wanted to spend his christmas money on a Ruger 10/22. After calling about 15 places this shop had stock. Many of the gun racks were empty but the place was busy. While we were there employees brought out 2 AR-15s and placed them on the wall racks. You could see dozen’s of heads turn. Both guns were off the racks within 30 seconds. They were doing background checks for both of them before we left.
I met a man today who just relocated from Durango, CO to northern Idaho. I asked him why he left a nice place like Durango. He told me he had a Romney sticker on his car and his tires got slashed.
It appears that Colorado is lost.
That’s not news. You might be able to find someone with a Saiga 308 who hasn’t sold out of them yet (because a lot of people don’t know the thing exists) and you might be able to find a just-built FAL professionally assembled on a US receiver from surplus parts.
These were not coincidences.
Good thing these agencies placed their HUGE orders for ammo right before an event which would cause HUGE PUBLIC DEMAND FOR AMMO!!
I’m SO glad I got started back in 2008. Still wish I could have done more. Dammed if I’m gonna pay $50 for a 30rnd AR magazine.
I’d investigate how to make the things myself before spending a small fortune on them. I may already have plenty though. Just sayin’....
That looks a lot better (both the gun and the shooter).
TSA will be in charge of all transportation if SHTF. Think checkpoints and “Where's your papers/travel orders?” If you have been in an airport lately you will see the demographic of the TSA crowd.
We could very well see a second American civil war in our lifetimes.
“I admit it.... I bought one for the first time....”
Me too....2nd one is on order....Ammo is VERY scarce here.....All 5 dealers in this area had nothing but a couple boxes of buckshot!!....No .38 nothing......
“...to buy something so ugly. ...”
It’s in the eye of the beholder.
I see it as “something that makes liberals pee themselves and infuriates socialists” and that has a beauty all it’s own...
As a matter of fact, it makes it downright “Helen Of Troy” beautiful...
If you don’t mind a bolt-action rifle, Savage makes a very accurate .308 that goes for about $300.
We need a congressional investigation into Sandy Hook.
Yes you are. The Federal Reserve is a private bank owned by private bankers (like Citi) who own shares in it. It acts in the interest of these member banks
My “plan”, since I am new to this, was handgun first (did that in August), then, Ruger 10/22 for Christmas (done), then shotgun (used 1100 at auction last week), ARs and bolt actions to follow the next 2-3 years. I am looking at bolt actions now and am leaning towards Thompson Center Dimension that I can swap between .223 and .308. I got to hold one at a gun auction last week and it felt good. That way I can be working with only 4 calibers plus 12 gauge, .40, .22LR, .223/5.56, and .308/7.62, across 7 “guns” ( XDm, 10/22, AR and bolt actions in 5.56 and .308, and 12 gauge).
That would be my next handgun purchase also.
The upside is that since I worked in LE for a while I can say with confidence that most of them couldn’t hit an elephant at 50 yards. Most armed officers never practice except at the once a year re-qualification.
At the range it was laughable how many fumbled with their mags during a reload and then recharging the weapon. As a matter of convenience most don’t know where their extra mags are. Uniformed officers would pull a mag from their belt and it would have food crumbs and funk all over them.
I am not too worried.
Being shamefully ignorant of firearms, I don’t recognize this one but that is a beauty.
Even up here in rural Alaska some 35 miles north of Wasilla we have a trained SWAT team, I know because I was accidentally involved in a situation some years ago.
I was making a concrete delivery to a house in Big Lake, about 6 houses away a silent alarm was tripped, somehow they ascertained the intruder was armed and may have a hostage, I could not leave my concrete mixer and watched the whole scenario of how the team was delivered, how they deployed, how air support stayed overhead, they were fully armored with helmets and vests plus the usual black gun rollout.
Many police departments all across America have formed their own SWAT team because the Feds were hosing cash out of tankers to them. And now they are getting even more cash, weapons far beyond what you could have bought in a store.
They will never out number armed Americans but they will have superior firepower.
I suggest scouring the video database of movies made about guerrilla warfare, behind enemy lines insurrection, freedom fighters etc, but skip the latest Hollywood crap like Red Dawn 2. They make films like that hoping to falsely educate insurrectionist Constitution Freedom Fighters.