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A Chicago Divided by Killings [Rahm the Racist is Allowing Poor Uneducated Blacks to Die!!]
NY TIMES ^ | January 3, 2013 | Mike Bostock, etc.

Posted on 01/03/2013 3:28:02 AM PST by SoFloFreeper

A New York Times analysis of homicides and census data in Chicago compared areas near murders to those that were not. Residents living near homicides in the last 12 years were much more likely to be black, earn less money and lack a college degree....

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: banglist; guncontrol; liberals; murder; race; secondamendment
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To: SoFloFreeper

Their push of strict gun laws seems targeted at rights of this group to own guns.


21 posted on 01/03/2013 5:17:44 AM PST by opentalk
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To: Venturer
I disagree.

While Chicago, given its demographics, will always be a violent city Emanuel has overseen a significant worsening of the problem.

In 2009, Chicago homiccides were down almost 11%. They were down 6% in 2010. They were down 1% in 2011 - Emanuel took office almost halfway through that year - but the rate was lower in the first non-Emanuel half of the year.

In his first full year in office, the hopmicide rate is up 19%.

He's had 17% more murders in his first year and a half in office than his predecessor had in his final 18 months.

There is policy involved, not just randomness.

22 posted on 01/03/2013 5:18:48 AM PST by wideawake
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To: SkyPilot

btt


23 posted on 01/03/2013 5:21:11 AM PST by KSCITYBOY
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To: Condor51
The 2010 Census puts Chicago's non-Hispanic white population at 32%, its black population at 33% and its Hispanic population (both "white" and "non-white") at 30% with Asians making up the remaining 5%.
24 posted on 01/03/2013 5:25:16 AM PST by wideawake
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To: Condor51
Addendum

The neighborhood I referred to as 'Back Of The Yards', the NY Slimes map has labeled as, 'New City'. They're pretty much basically one in the same. The old Police District for where I grew up was called (back in my yute) the 'New City Precinct'. It was located on West 47St in 'The Back of The Yards' -- see what I mean.

Plus, old habits die hard :-)

25 posted on 01/03/2013 5:31:59 AM PST by Condor51 (Si vis pacem, para bellum.)
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To: Condor51
That's some 'odd' map the NY Times has there of the Chicago neighborhoods by race. Namely the majority of the Tan areas which are labeled as (cough) 'white' (cough).

The fact is there are few 'white neighborhoods' left in Chicago. There's Lincoln Park, the Gold Coast, the ones in the far North and Northwest sides, and in the far Southwest side like Mt Greenwood, and in the Southeast side's Hyde Park. [Wait.. Hyde Park are mostly commies and always has been so shouldn't that be 'red' or 'other'? (not joking)]

But the Tan shaded (cough) 'white neighborhoods' (cough) like McKinley Park and Brighton Park ain't exactly what one would call 'white'. Those two neighborhoods are 97%-98% Brown, or more accurately -- Mexican. And not those nice hard-working Mexicans 'doing the jobs us lazy American refuse to do'. No siree Bob, they're now below poverty level Gang-Bangin' Mexican Barrios all living off government freebies. And that'd be from us!

I know, it's where I grew up. And where I still have family.

Oh. And that other 'white neighborhood' called Back Of The Yards, well -- that's been 100% Mexican, and not exactly safe, since the 1980's. So boys and girls I wish we could get this thing called 'People Of Color' and whose 'white', whose a 'minority', and who isn't straightened out pretty darn quick as I'm getting confused as heck.

Note: 'Latinos' are now the majority population in Chicago and have been since the 2000 Census (at least). Followed closely by Blacks and waaaay behind in numbers and percent -- Whites. In short, that map is 100% B*llsh*t. Black and Brown criminals are whacking each other -- the end.

Same is true with Dallas and I'm sure it could just as easily be said of many downtown urban areas. The municipalities have been turned into hubs of the welfare matrix. The worker bees fled to the rural areas to avoid the gangs, drugs and culture of government dependence and violence.

You see....it's how they do 'communities' these days. If you are self aware, independently motivated, educated, embrace the realities and challenges that life brings and demonstrate moral integrity......then you really aren't part of the community.

26 posted on 01/03/2013 5:42:18 AM PST by Mobilemitter (We must learn to fin >-)> for ourselves.........)
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To: Condor51
That's some 'odd' map the NY Times has there of the Chicago neighborhoods by race. Namely the majority of the Tan areas which are labeled as (cough) 'white' (cough).

The fact is there are few 'white neighborhoods' left in Chicago. There's Lincoln Park, the Gold Coast, the ones in the far North and Northwest sides, and in the far Southwest side like Mt Greenwood, and in the Southeast side's Hyde Park. [Wait.. Hyde Park are mostly commies and always has been so shouldn't that be 'red' or 'other'? (not joking)]

But the Tan shaded (cough) 'white neighborhoods' (cough) like McKinley Park and Brighton Park ain't exactly what one would call 'white'. Those two neighborhoods are 97%-98% Brown, or more accurately -- Mexican. And not those nice hard-working Mexicans 'doing the jobs us lazy American refuse to do'. No siree Bob, they're now below poverty level Gang-Bangin' Mexican Barrios all living off government freebies. And that'd be from us!

I know, it's where I grew up. And where I still have family.

Oh. And that other 'white neighborhood' called Back Of The Yards, well -- that's been 100% Mexican, and not exactly safe, since the 1980's. So boys and girls I wish we could get this thing called 'People Of Color' and whose 'white', whose a 'minority', and who isn't straightened out pretty darn quick as I'm getting confused as heck.

Note: 'Latinos' are now the majority population in Chicago and have been since the 2000 Census (at least). Followed closely by Blacks and waaaay behind in numbers and percent -- Whites. In short, that map is 100% B*llsh*t. Black and Brown criminals are whacking each other -- the end.

Same is true with Dallas and I'm sure it could just as easily be said of many downtown urban areas. The municipalities have been turned into hubs of the welfare matrix. The worker bees fled to the rural areas to avoid the gangs, drugs and culture of government dependence and violence.

You see....it's how they do 'communities' these days. If you are self aware, independently motivated, educated, embrace the realities and challenges that life brings and demonstrate moral integrity......then you really aren't part of the community.

27 posted on 01/03/2013 5:42:18 AM PST by Mobilemitter (We must learn to fin >-)> for ourselves.........)
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To: SkyPilot
RE: "Blacks are an estimated 39 times more likely to commit a violent crime against a white than vice versa"

Overwhelmingly the MSM are full of claims that black Americans are 24/7 victims of white America.

Crimes of violence. This source is from a US DoJ regular survey of 75,000 (I think is the number) crime victims -- not directly from police reports.

The numbers are extrapolated and will not match exactly but do comport with the police records.

Rape and sexual assaults are separate. See my post below.

Criminal Victimization in the United States, [YYYY] Statistical Tables

Table 42: "Percent distribution of single-offender victimizations, by type of crime, race of victim, and perceived race of offender"

Year of Stats Race of Victims % White
Offenders
% Black
Offenders
%
Not known
& other
1995 Crimes of violence
6,016,200 White 72.3 % 18.1 % 9.6 %
1,035,740 Black 12.4 82.3 5.2 *
Completed violence
1,570,790 White 74.6 15.8 9.6
399,170 Black 9.4 87.7 2.8 *
Attempted/threatened
violence
4,445,410 White 71.4 18.9 9.6
636,570 Black 14.3 78.9 6.8 *
Year of Stats Race of Victims % White
Offenders
% Black
Offenders
%
Not known
& other
1996 Crimes of violence
5,758,340 White 71.0 % 17.6 % 11.4 %
985,020 Black 12.2 78.3 9.6 *
Completed violence
1,490,970 White 71.8 17.6 10.6
359,250 Black 10.1 82.3 7.7 *
Attempted/threatened
violence
4,267,370 White 70.7 17.6 11.7
625,770 Black 13.4 76.0 10.5 *
Year of Stats Race of Victims % White
Offenders
% Black
Offenders
%
Not known
& other
1997 Crimes of violence
5,549,410 White 71.5 % 15.9 % 12.6 %
1,000,780 Black 10.5 78.6 10.8 *
Completed violence
1,585,350 White 72.4 16.0 11.6
329,800 Black 5.4 * 85.1 9.5 *
Attempted/threatened
violence
3,964,070 White 71.2 15.9 13.0
670,980 Black 13.0 75.5 11.5 *
Year of Stats Race of Victims % White
Offenders
% Black
Offenders
%
Not known
& other
1998 Crimes of violence
5,295,480 White 74.8 % 14.0 % 11.2 %
854,450 Black 16.1 76.1 7.8 *
Completed violence
1,546,430 White 76.9 11.2 11.9
278,460 Black 10.4 78.2 11.4 *
Attempted/threatened
violence
3,749,050 White 74.0 15.1 11.0
575,990 Black 18.9 75.1 6.0 *
Year of Stats Race of Victims % White
Offenders
% Black
Offenders
%
Not known
& other
1999 Crimes of violence
4,760,930 White 74.5 % 13.8 % 11.7 %
867,150 Black 10.5 80.0 9.5
Completed violence
1,372,770 White 73.9 14.4 11.6
292,790 Black 2.8 * 86.5 10.7 *
Attempted/threatened
violence
3,388,160 White 74.8 13.5 11.7
574,360 Black 14.4 76.8 8.9 *
Year of Stats Race of Victims % White
Offenders
% Black
Offenders
%
Not known
& other
2000 Crimes of violence
4,120,110 White 73.1 % 14.7 % 12.2 %
702,850 Black 12.6 81.9 5.5 *
Completed violence
1,263,820 White 71.6 14.3 14.1 *
220,880 Black 6.3 * 92.2 1.5 *
Attempted/threatened
violence
2,856,290 White 73.8 14.8 11.4
481,970 Black 15.5 77.2 7.3 *
Year of Stats Race of Victims % White
Offenders
% Black
Offenders
%
Not known
& other
2001 Crimes of violence
3,661,770 White 74.7 % 14.4 % 10.9 %
660,720 Black 10.7 83.1 6.3
Completed violence
1,069,400 White 72.3 18.0 9.7
214,810 Black 6.0 * 87.5 6.5
Attempted/threatened
violence
2,592,370 White 75.7 12.9 11.4
445,910 Black 13.0 80.9 6.1 *
Year of Stats Race of Victims % White
Offenders
% Black
Offenders
%
Not known
& other
2002 Crimes of violence
3,427,980 White 72.6 % 13.6 % 13.7 %
617,970 Black 16.2 74.5 9.3 *
Completed violence
1,056,610 White 71.8 15.4 12.9 %
186,240 Black 8.6 * 84.6 6.7 *
Attempted/threatened
violence
2,371,370 White 73.0 12.8 14.1 *
431,730 Black 19.5 70.1 10.4 *
Year of Stats Race of Victims % White
Offenders
% Black
Offenders
%
Not known
& other
2003 Crimes of violence
3,283,030 White 72.9 % 12.1 % 15.0 %
556,140 Black 12.0 74.8 13.2
Completed violence
879,830 White 71.4 13.4 15.2
190,170 Black 8.3 * 77.3 14.4 *
Attempted/threatened
violence
2,403,210 White 73.5 11.6 14.9
365,970 Black 14.0 73.5 12.6 *
Year of Stats Race of Victims % White
Offenders
% Black
Offenders
%
Not known
& other
2004 Crimes of violence
3,382,920 White 52.7 % 9.6 % 37.7
559,130 Black 10.8 73.6 15.6
Completed violence
1,052,650 White 57.9 8.8 33.2
222,910 Black 7.3 * 78.8 14.0
Attempted/threatened
violence
2,330,270 White 50.3 10.0 39.6
336,230 Black 13.2 70.2 16.6 *
Year of Stats Race of Victims % White
Offenders
% Black
Offenders
%
Not known
& other
2005 Crimes of violence
3,201,320 White 49.0 % 13.5 % 37.5 %
507,210 Black 10.4 63.5 26.1 *
Completed violence
916,130 White 51.2 14.3 34.5
192,040 Black 4.7 * 69.7 25.6 *
Attempted/threatened
violence
2,285,190 White 48.1 13.2 38.8
315,170 Black 13.9 59.7 26.4 *
Year of Stats Race of Victims % White
Offenders
% Black
Offenders
%
Not known
& other
2006 Crimes of violence
3,699,360 White 69.3 % 13.0 % 17.7 %
719,880 Black 11.5 74.8 13.7
Completed violence
1,057,920 White 65.2 19.2 15.6
299,970 Black 9.5 * 80.1 10.4 *
Attempted/threatened
violence
2,641,450 White 70.9 10.5 18.6
419,920 Black 12.9 71.0 16.0 *
Year of Stats Race of Victims % White
Offenders
% Black
Offenders
%
Not known
& other
2007 Crimes of violence
3,262,660 White 68.0 % 13.3 % 18.7 %
562,470 Black 9.9 72.8 17.2 *
Completed violence
916,170 White 70.5 13.4 16.2
171,460 Black 1.5 * 84.6 13.9 *
Attempted/threatened
violence
2,346,480 White 67.1 13.2 19.6
391,010 Black 13.7 67.7 18.7 *
Year of Stats Race of Victims % White
Offenders
% Black
Offenders
%
Not known
& other
2008 Crimes of violence
2,788,600 White 67.4 15.4 17.1
570,550 Black 15.9 64.7 19.5
Completed violence
706,540 White 67.8 19.4 12.9 *
210,740 Black 14.5 * 66.5 19.0 *
Attempted/threatened
violence
2,082,050 White 67.3 14.1 18.7
359,800 Black 16.8 63.6 19.7 *

*0.0 Estimate is based on 10 or fewer sample cases.
Percentage may not equal 100% due to rounding.

1995 1996 1997 1998 1999 2000 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008

28 posted on 01/03/2013 5:42:56 AM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: wideawake
That 'white' isn't 'white'. It's 'white' like the FBI Hate Crime Stats are 'white'. That comes from 'Latinos' checking a box saying 'White Hispanic' on some form. Magically the 'Hispanic', and very convenient 'People of Color' bullshit, disappears. They love playing their friggen race card game as they see fit for what gives them the most advantage when.

And I'd gladly drop you off in some of those 'white neighborhoods' -- like Gage Park which I didn't address -- at 9:00pm with $50 $20 Bills hanging out of your pockets, or just wearing some of those new Air Jordan kicks, but I don't want to be responsible for your murder.

Plus I don't go into Chicago anymore unless; 1) I absolutely positively have to, 2) I'm armed, and 3) see 1 and 2. Not to prove a point or that the NY Times and a bunch of gubmint stats are full of crap.

29 posted on 01/03/2013 5:54:07 AM PST by Condor51 (Si vis pacem, para bellum.)
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To: SkyPilot
RE: "the subject of inter-racial rape . . . If you really want to see some chilling statistics, Google that subject."

Liberals seem to feeeeeeeeel that it doesn't matter that the charges are false.. because the charges express the essential nature of white men's treatment of black women in this country.

Criminal Victimization in the United States, [YYYY] Statistical Tables

Table 42: "Percent distribution of single-offender victimizations, by type of crime, race of victim, and perceived race of offender"
"Rape/Sexual assault"

Year of Stats Total
Rape/
Sexual assault
Race of Victims % White
Offenders
% Black
Offenders
%
Not known
& other
1995 255,260 White 78.7 15.3
38,330 Black 7.9 * 92.1
1996 216,710 White 82.2 8.8 *
44,890 Black 13.5 * 80.2 6.3 *
1997 234,800 White 74.8 8.0 *
43,890 Black 0.0 * 93.7 6.3 *
1998 225,330 White 77.2 9.9 *
47,430 Black 7.2 * 68.9 23.9 *
1999 274,020 White 79.4 7.3 *
67,890 Black 0.0 * 79.3 20.7 *
2000 199,360 White 81.5 7.0
33,780 Black 7.0 79.7 13.3
2001 183,160 White 71.3 17.1
29,980 Black 13.4 65.5 21.1
2002 134,140 White 76.0 13.1
59,490 Black 14.2 85.8
2003 131,030 White 57.9 15.5
24,010 Black 0.0 87.9 12.1
2004 139,900 White 65.1 8.3
39,300 Black 0.0 89.8 10.2
2005 111,590 White 44.5 33.6
36,620 Black 0.0 100.0
2006 194,270 White 50.6 16.7
17,920 Black 0.0 43.0 57.0
2007 185,430 White 75.5 7.6
12,780 Black 0.0 100.0
2008 117,640 White 74.9 16.4
46,580 Black 0.0 74.8 25.2

*0.0 Estimate is based on 10 or fewer sample cases
May not sum to 100.0 % due to rounding

1995 1996 1997 1998 1999 2000 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008

BTW.. I did google and I started with a wiki graffiti article that has since been changed by removing the following:

In the 111,590 cases in which the victim of rape or sexual assault was white, 44.5 percent of the offenders were white, and 33.6 percent of the offenders were black. In the 36,620 cases in which the victim of rape or sexual assault was black, 100 percent of the offenders were black, and 0.0 percent of the offenders were white.

Fortunately the source of the information is still there.. until the Obama/Holder Dept. of Just Us and Our People realize that it's open to the public.

30 posted on 01/03/2013 5:58:32 AM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: SoFloFreeper

It’s even worse than that. Rahm is not just *allowing* black people to kill each other and die. He is *encouraging* black people to kill each other and die.

Vigilantism begins when either the government does not protect the people from criminals, or worse, when government takes the side of criminals against the people.

Gun control is effectively the latter of these two conditions, because the criminals retain their guns, but the honest citizenry are left defenseless against them.

While mob violence and hanging has long been unfairly associated with vigilantism, the truth is that vigilantism movements only use violence as a last resort, after countless legal actions and petitions to government are either ignored, or despised and labeled as criminal defiance of their rule.

Such governments are invariably corrupt in many ways, and more than willing to use their power to subvert the voting process. Eventually, when a vigilantism movement emerges, it discovers that it must not only contend with the criminals, but the government that supports the criminals.


31 posted on 01/03/2013 6:14:16 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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To: WilliamofCarmichael

Based on those stastics, there is a simple resolve.....Ban Blacks from owning firearms, that might level the field. (sarc)


32 posted on 01/03/2013 6:17:32 AM PST by DaveA37
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To: Condor51
That 'white' isn't 'white'.

Wrong. That number is specifically "white non-Hispanic."

The official "white" number is 45%, but when "white Hispanics" are removed it is 31.7%.

nd I'd gladly drop you off in some of those 'white neighborhoods' -- like Gage Park which I didn't address

Very kind of you. I'm not claiming that Gage Park (which is basically a Maratrucha neighborhood now) is "white."

I'm pointing out that there is no majority ethnic group in Chicago (as opposed to your claim that there is a "Latino" majority) and that the city is roughly one-third white, one-third black and one-third Hispanic.

a bunch of gubmint stats are full of crap

Sounds very scientific.

The Chicago-area Census workers were highly motivated to overcount minorities and undercount whites in order for the city to qualify for the maximum amount of federal funding.

The incentive is the opposite of what you are implying.

33 posted on 01/03/2013 6:46:58 AM PST by wideawake
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