Skip to comments.Congressmen Confirm That Boehner Will Either Resign Speakership Or Be Forced Out
Posted on 01/02/2013 5:08:45 PM PST by drewh
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In my opinion, the Rs’ best shot at getting rat concessions on spending is the automatic sequestration cuts due to trigger in early March. The Rs should let them happen (while playing like they are really, REALLY trying hard to avoid them, ha ha) unless they can get some MAJOR rat concessions. If they can’t, then they need to throw up their hands in despair and point the finger at the rats.
Again, the beautiful thing about these three upcoming “fiscal cliffs” is that the tax debate is over and settled, with 98% of earners now locked in at the lower Bush tax rates, and the Republicans are now holding all the cards. (I still can’t get over that the Republicans accomplished that despite an African communist in the White House and rat control of the Senate! Just wow..!)
I agree 100%
Except there are many Rs , and many here, spent all year whining about how the automatic Defense cuts will devastate the military, like Ryan did. So they must be repealed, no taxes can go up at all, and we must cut spending too.
This is a great way to lose to Dems.
I never understood how Rs can claim they got NO spending cuts out of the budget control act, when 50% are military that they claim will devastate it.
It takes a lot more than that to be abrasive on FR.
gave the time because I knew he’s already been elected at
that time. I tuned into something the much more conservative-than-Boehner Jason Chaffetz (Utah) said before the vote that convinced me JB was going nowhere.
I been posting that for weeks here.
For weeks I been posting challenges here to call someone you love in the House Rs Fwightened Wabbit Club who were against plan B to challenge him as Speaker, to volunteer to be in the impossible position he was in in this tax extension fight.
But none of those who were against plan B, and voted against this final bill they complained about, or even voted against Bohner (like Broun and Gohmert ) will step up themselves to run as Speaker. This was VERY easy to predict and I did it here over and over here. Not one.
Itsjust too easy just to hide in their Hidy-hole and vote against bills that pass and only for bills that don't. No risk there.
Obama will NEVER be beat by this type of hero.
Same to you my friend. boner is a coward... all that we need to do is make him more scared of US than he is of them. We just keep the pressure on him and believe me... tons of money will be flowing into his district to defeat him if he does not tow the line. The NRA and GOA have a plan. They have the money and the lawyers and we must also do out part. Cowards are cowards and we must use that against him. He can be defeated easier in his home district that on the floor of the House. He knows this. We still have power.
GOD bless you my friend.
Same to you my friend. boner is a coward... all that we need to do is make him more scared of US than he is of them. We just keep the pressure on him and believe me... tons of money will be flowing into his district to defeat him if he does not tow the line. The NRA and GOA have a plan. They have the money and the lawyers and we must also do out part. Cowards are cowards and we must use that against him. He can be defeated easier in his home district than on the floor of the House. He knows this. We still have power.
GOD bless you my friend.
There are precisely ZERO New England Republicans in the House and only a modest number in the Northeast (although they have a majority in PA and a tie in New Jersey). As it is, Democrats are overrepresented in office in that region, and that is unsustainable. Same goes for California, which is ludicrously overrepresented (ditto Oregon and even Arizona). Had it not been for Democrat and (left-wing) "Independent" redistricting commissions (and an absurd law in FL demanding "fair" lines, whatever that means), the GOP might not have lost any seats overall (aside from some weak wins from 2010).
Fighting evil with john boner is like cutting grass with a pair of scissors. But the grass must be cut.
I count eleven GOP-held House seats in the Northeast that, on paper, truly are very competitive for Democrats (NY-02, NY-11, NY-19, NY-22, NY-23, NJ-02, NJ-03, PA-06, PA-07, PA-08 and PA-15), but none of them can be said truly to lean Democrat. The closest would be NY-19 (Gibson) and NJ-02 (LoBiondo), but Gibson won fairly comfortably in spite of the 2012 Obama turnout and LoBiondo is well entrenched in his district. And even if the Democrats won all eleven of these CDs, they’d still fall short of 218.
More like cutting poison ivy with a pair of scissors.
More like cutting poison ivy with a pair of scissors.
Pennsylvania, New York, and New Jersey are east coast but not New England. Of course, if by "NE" you meant "Northeast", then I suppose they'd count. New Jersey is still solidly RAT statewide probably has more conservatives elected to office now than any time in the last 30 years. There was a time when Chris Smith was pretty lonely, and even he is hardly "conservative" overall aside from being super duper pro-life. Of course I still consider guys like Leonard Lance to be worthless RINOs.
There was a time during the Speaker Pelosi era where it looked like our NY Congressional delegation was going to be wiped away to nothing. I think were down to 2 seats at one point and on the verge of slipping to a single seat. Pretty pathetic considering NY state has over 25 congressional seats. For some odd reason, New York Republicans were able to control the state Senate for years, even when the state went heavily Dem statewide. Wish they were that good at winning congressional races.
Pennsylvania has always been a competitive two-party state when it comes to congressional races, albeit one that leans Dem overall in recent years.
1960 was before my time but it certainly made for an interesting era when Republicans were competitive in New England and Democrats were competitive in the southern bible belt. Probably made national races for control of Congress less predictable. I know RAT Sam Rayburn and Republican William Martin swapped places as Speaker/Minority Leader several times.
The odd thing is that more and more Americans are claiming to be "independent" and identify less and less as Republicans or Democrats, but voting patterns seem to getting more and more partisan. Many states have aligned themselves as "Dem" or "GOP" blocs now, and I've met a ton of voters who just blindly vote for EVERY "D" or EVERY "R" they can find on the ballot (as for me, I've never voted "straight ticket" Republican and never will. Candidates have to EARN my vote)
Speaking of Fwightened, I see none of those House members who opposed plan B and this final much worse bill challenged Bohner to be Speaker, not even the ones that symbolically voted against him wanted to be Speaker. What kind of hero is that.
Sure, they got him to drop plan B, then just passed the much crappier Senate bill to O that gave special tax breaks to Hollywood. Then none of them run for Speaker against him because they dont want the job. I dont see where this is working at all.
In same cases it wont be bad, like O wants gun control and amnesty so those will hopefully die in the senate.
But whenever a huge crisis deadline comes up like all taxes go up, or the Debt limit, or a shutdown, Bohner will just pass whatever the Reid Senate dictates when he cant get House Rs behind him. And they will complain, but no one was willing to step up to the plate.
You are 100% correct. boner is a coward... those under him are even larger cowards... scared to run for speaker. They can be scared into compliance... which was my point.
I seem to remember lots of talk here for the past three years about how Republicans will going to take back the Senate and the WH in 2012. Rush and others were fueling this by claiming that Democrats would not come out and vote.
He was also saying that all the polls were rigged and most Americans naturally sided with Rs over Ds, that was repeated here.
Now it is true that winning lots of House Seats is different than the WH or Senate, that many of these smaller districts are gerry-mandered into either solid D or R. So it is not unlikely that Rs lose a few more House Seats and run the House by a very slim majority in 2016 for Os final years, with him keeping the Senate.
So this means the congress wont function except to pass popular spending bills like this disaster aid bill.
In many cases it wont be bad, like O wants gun control and amnesty so those will hopefully die in the senate. But O will do his best to use executive orders which wont be challenged by new laws.
But whenever a huge crisis deadline comes up like all taxes go up, or the Debt limit, or a shutdown, Bohner will just pass whatever the Reid Senate dictates after he cant get House Rs behind him, which he wont because they cant even agree on what they want.('we want spending cuts, except...')
And they will complain again, but no one was willing to step up to the plate to take his job. That wont happen till Pelosi takes the House back because then opposing everything becomes an election winner again as in 2010.
No, they are scared of being Speaker. Bohner is the goat and they don't want that job. It is very safe and fun for them to vote their No against bills that go into law, and Yes for bills that never do. Most are in safe districts where that works great.
As Speaker you have to worry about races all around the country, not just in deep red states. You think any of them want that headache?
I see the few symbolic votes against Bohner as Speaker didnt scare him much, did you see that pork ridden disaster relief bill he passed with Dem votes? What a pile of crap. Remember the 'we have a spending problem' jingle?
Oh, and Newt who I am no fan of has already come out and said that Rs will lose the upcoming debt limit fight. Pretty easy to picture.
I know I am negative, I didnt buy the 'Romney will win a landslide' talk either.
I missed that.
I thought it was a straight-up $9B for the flood insurance program that some Republicans objected to only because there weren't offsets in other budgetary items. What pork was in this bill?
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