Skip to comments.Grover Norquist: Cliff plan OK with pledge
Posted on 01/02/2013 3:51:49 AM PST by NotSoModerate
For Grover Norquist, the Senate-backed fiscal cliff bill on its way to the House floor Tuesday is a tax cut that House Republicans can vote for and defend to their constituents without violating their anti-tax increase pledges.
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Norky standing with the courageous democrats. LOL
LOL!!! Too funny!
Voting tax cuts for one group of income earners and not for all is class warfare socialism and GroNorq said FU to the job creators and me love you long time to Obama.
He is dead to conservatives.
And as of last night, it's probably vice-versa. He knows which side of his prayer rug is buttered.
What else is he going to say? He is now just as irrelevant as the republican party.
We’ve now moved into a surreal realm where the ultimate hyperbole is reality. This was a declaration of war against the producers and constitutionalists.
Having seen the deal, I disagree with Grover. If you want to call him an Islamofascist now, be my guest.
He had his bluff called. Now he has to think, “Do I hold on to what little relevancy I have left by pretending I’m LETTING them do this, or go hardcore and get completely rolled by the GOP establishment?” Like most forward thinkers, Grover has decided to look after his own hide, and principles be damned.
Although class warfare tactics are reprehensible, they are simply cover for engaging in what is the real problem....spending that is totally out of control.
Spending gets reined in, and the incentive to vilify the successful entrepreneurs among us gets reduced.
At a minimum, this nation needs to cap the percent of tax revenue that can be paid in interest payments on the debt.
That should be easy to sell. It should be obvious to everyone that paying out 200-350 billion a year in interest payments is self-defeating. It is taking money that COULD be spent on fixing social security or right-sizing our military or (sadly) paying for the new obamacare expenses that ARE going to hit us.
If interest payments get capped at (say) 12% of actual revenues, then that’s a “sellable” step in the right direction.
Who died and made Grover Norquist the tax guru of the world? He’s as clueless as McConnell and Boehnor.
At this point, debt doesn’t matter to the Dims!
Why? Well, let’s reduce it down to street size as most people can’t fathom trillions. So, if I borrowed scores of times from persons or companies or countries since say the mid sixies, and I now owe all these persons, companies or countries say 100,000,000 against my assets of say a mattress (used) and my used underwear, what does it matter if they are stupid enough to loan me say another 5 million! Or, ten million! I’m not going to pay it back anyway! So, arguably, the “size” of the debt, whether 17 trillion or 50 trillion only matters to those dumb enough to lend it because WE as a country are NEVER going to pay it back! Anyone that argues to the contrary is a fool! Ain’t gonna happen!
Bottom line to all persons, companies or countries, QUIT loaning the USA any more freakin money so as to FORCE us to restructure our country as required.
I am going to have to re-read his reasoning regarding this issue, and this particular bill. I had to grudgingly agree with his reasoning on his thoughts before Christmas, but I have not kept up with this bill.
McConnel went crawling to Biden—since the Messiah was too good to negotiate as usual and knew anyway how balless the GOP RINO leadership was and so unworthy of his imperial divine notice...
...forget it! Dump Boehner tomorrow or die GOP!!!
I sure agree with “dump Boehner”. As of now, I would actually rather have Pelosi be Speaker.
The more I think about the last few days, the more I question whether the African communist actually won anything.
I mean, what’s different now from two weeks ago? Answer: The Bush tax rates are now permanent for 98% of American earners. It would be nice if it was 100%, but geez... The top 2% merely go back to where they were 10 years ago. (The real mistake occurred 10 years ago when the Republicans failed to insist that the rates be made permanent at that time.)
As far as spending “cuts” go, the debt ceiling debate can be used to force that issue and if all else fails, the “painful” sequestration cuts will happen automatically in two months (yesterday’s vote merely put them off for two months), while the Bush tax rates are STILL permanent for 98% of American earners.
I just can’t make myself gnash my teeth about all this the way some around here seem to be doing.
To me it looks like Ubanga threw the Republicans into the briar patch.