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1 posted on 12/31/2012 6:16:16 PM PST by bd476
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call GOP Congressmen , tell them not to vote for this nor any deal , go over the news media’s stupid cliff(which is not a cliff):

Congress switchboard number: (202) 224-3121.


2 posted on 12/31/2012 6:18:25 PM PST by Democrat_media (media makes mass shooters household names to create more & take our guns)
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I wonder why the Democrats are leaking it now through an anonymous spokesman rather than officially announcing it.


3 posted on 12/31/2012 6:19:05 PM PST by bd476
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...and like good little sheep, the GOPe will fall for it.

I’m calling my congresspeople but my hopes are not high.


4 posted on 12/31/2012 6:19:30 PM PST by VictoryGal (Never give up, never surrender! REMEMBER NEDA)
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DOA.

Let Ubama drive us over the imaginary "fiscal cliff."

Let him own it.

6 posted on 12/31/2012 6:19:59 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("Democracy is indispensable to socialism. The goal of socialism is communism." --Vladimir Lenin)
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If true, and the Republicans have shafted those with incomes above $450,000.00, they are dead as a party.


7 posted on 12/31/2012 6:20:22 PM PST by Arm_Bears (Ted Kennedy's Oldsmobile has killed more people than my guns.)
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Cuts?


8 posted on 12/31/2012 6:20:47 PM PST by Theoria
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briefly avert across-the-board spending cuts set to strike the Pentagon and domestic agencies this week.

So, now they will hit the week after next?

11 posted on 12/31/2012 6:21:38 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (Republicans have made themselves useless, toothless, and clueless.)
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Phony cliff, phony deal.


13 posted on 12/31/2012 6:21:49 PM PST by bmwcyle (We have gone over the cliff and we are about to hit the bottom)
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It’s the liberal Dems that are upset with the deal and holding it up. The Obama cheerleaders on CNN don’t know what to make of a Commie Senator from Oregon who’d rather go over the cliff than accept this deal.


15 posted on 12/31/2012 6:23:37 PM PST by gusopol3
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Me: We don’t make over $450k, do we?
Wife: No but the man I passed up to marry you makes that much.
Me: (stares at her across the room)


17 posted on 12/31/2012 6:24:15 PM PST by AppyPappy (You never see a masscre at a gun show.)
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a deal was reached with the congressional Republicans and the ayatollah?? i thought congress was adjourned until tomorrow at 1PM?


25 posted on 12/31/2012 6:30:37 PM PST by God luvs America (63.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)
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So, this “deal” won’t even pay for the added year of unemployment payments they’re tossing in there... and we’re hitting the debt limit today.... how the heck are we paying for this wonderful “deal”?


28 posted on 12/31/2012 6:31:38 PM PST by Cementjungle
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Those evil bosses of small businesses will pay more.
This will trigger more jobs lost.
A double-dip recession is in the wings.
This 'victory' will set the stage for a fight on debt limits, which Barry will also win.
This will allow Barry, Gibbs, and Axeldouche to put the final coffin nails in the Republican Party.

Next up: Conversion of the country to full-blown, central-management Marxism.

30 posted on 12/31/2012 6:33:59 PM PST by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.......)
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The deal:

(1) Dems get permanent higher taxes, but only over $450k, a higher threshold than they wanted; and

(2) expense reductions get put off until the debt ceiling negotiation in two or three months.

So the Reps preserve their leverage, on expenses, but hand over a partial win to the Dems now on taxes.

The problem with this is that the Dems can demagogue this all Winter, backed by the media, weakening the Reps prior to the debt ceiling battle.

It is probably better to go back to the Clinton rates and suffer two years until a new Congress might be able to override Obama. That would take courage, sacrifice and a different Speaker to take the battle to the Dems.

This will come down to whether the Tea Party caucus can stymie this deal or whether the House Dems and Rino Reps can form an unholy alliance to pass the deal. If the latter occurs, then look forward to a Speaker Pelosi in 2014.

34 posted on 12/31/2012 6:36:58 PM PST by Kennard
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The cliff is pushed back two months.


38 posted on 12/31/2012 6:39:08 PM PST by rdl6989 (January 20, 2013 The end of an error.)
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Gonna have to pass without the House TEA Party caucus.

That means the RINOs and Dems will own it if it passes and at the least, the RINOs will pay for it in the 2014 primaries.

39 posted on 12/31/2012 6:39:35 PM PST by Happy Rain ("Outlawing guns because of Adam Lanza would be like outlawing free speech because of Bill Maher.")
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and briefly avert across-the-board spending cuts set to strike the Pentagon

Great. So now, we get to go through all of this AGAIN in a very short time.

Thanks GOP! What a great political party!

Now that the GOP has given Bath House Barry (who clearly demonstrated what a street punk he really is today) and the Democrats 85% of what they wanted (higher taxes, $200 Billion for the perpetually "unemployed", tuition tax credits for Obama's perpetual "students", etc - the GOP is left with very little leverage. The debt ceiling debate will be more of the same, and they will cave, because they have proven 100% incapable of reforming what is really breaking the back of this nation - ENTITLEMENTS.

67% of the Federal dollars spent direct payments in the form of Entitlements. And it is getting worse by the day.

It looks like in just days or weeks we will now have to endure Sequestration, because it cannot be stopped.

The DoD will have to cut Operations and Maintenance much, much more than the 9.4%. They cannot touch troop strength (Obama will cut that soon and pay no political price for it anyway), so they will cut O&M, probably by 25% or greater. That will devastate the military.

And it won't stop there.

10 Devastating Sequestration Cuts That People Are Afraid Will Happen Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/10-devastating-sequestration-cuts-that-people-are-afraid-will-happen-2012-12?op=1#ixzz2GgfCoA9H

"The military is already contending with a $487 billion cut over the next ten years as a result of existing budget cuts. Since the existing funds for the war and military pay are exempt, the remainder of military funding will take a harder hit as well. The sequestration would lead to an additional $55 billion cut from the military over nine years, and some analysts think this could national defense to the bone. General Martin Dempsey, the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, says that the cuts will leave the armed forces “hollowed-out”.

Every military contract may need to be completely renegotiated

Small, local contractors could be forced out of business

The entire defense industry could be thrown into chaos

Massive rises in unemployment in a number of states

"Several states have an abnormally high proportion of employees who work for the government. As a result of sequestration, there will be firings, furloughs and hiring freezes in many agencies, depending on how each individual agency may decide to implement different cuts. Here are the five states that may be hit the hardest as a result of their high levels of federal government employment:

Maryland
Virginia
Washington
California
Arizona

And here is the best part! The cost of delaying the Sequester for the next 2 years is less than the cost of extending "unemployment" benefits to the layabouts, but the Sequester is going to take place but the "benefits" to the lazy 99ers is already agreed to! Isn't that great!!!

We don't need enemies with "friends" like this.

45 posted on 12/31/2012 6:43:45 PM PST by SkyPilot
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where’s Rand Paul on this??


46 posted on 12/31/2012 6:44:22 PM PST by God luvs America (63.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)
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That's quite a "deal", but only for America's enemies who want our future crippled. The left wing gets their class warfare tax increase on the rich. Decent Americans get no federal spending cuts at all. Why are the Republicans agreeing to this?

The Dems claimed that if we gave on taxes, then they would have room to negotiate on spending. The House needs to hold firm until they have a Senate bill on spending, and not give the far left this win with nothing to show for it. Frankly, I'd rather go over the "Cliff" and then solve the real problem of out of control spending than continue to impoverish our children and our grandchildren.

63 posted on 12/31/2012 6:59:07 PM PST by Pollster1 (Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. - Ronald Reagan)
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The Democrats lose their leverage if this deal goes through, it makes the <$450,000 rates permanent and permanently fixes the AMT. TheDemocrats no longer will be able to hold a gun to the head of the midde class and dare the Republicans to see if they’ll pull the trigger. Obama’s giving up more than he said he was willing to when it seemed he was all to happy to let the taxes rise on everybody, then o back and fix it by pushing middle class tax cuts. Therefore, it’s something else in the deal he’s got to have and I say it’s the delay of the defense sequestration.


64 posted on 12/31/2012 7:02:39 PM PST by gusopol3
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