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Posted on 12/31/2012 2:02:09 PM PST by blondee123
URGENT: Illinois Anti-Gun Legislators That YOU Voted Out of Office to Use Their Last Remaining Days in Legislature Exploiting Lame Duck Session and Holiday Break To Impose a Draconian Gun Ban
The NRA-ILA has just learned that anti-gun legislators backed by Governor Quinn are deceptively trying to sneak through a new draconian gun ban as early as Wednesday while the legislature convenes for the Lame Duck Session from January 2 to 9.
(Excerpt) Read more at nraila.org ...
The last lame duck session in ILL-ANNOY brought us a 67% increase in income tax using bribes for jobs for vulnerable members who were going out the door anyway. BOHICA! Past behavior predicts future behavior.
I thought that the whole State was a gun-free zone already.
Once you lose the election, you should not be allowed to do anything more. Clean out your desk is all....
Illinois is like a little California, in the middle of the country. If I were driving from East to West, I’d go around it.
Based on what I read on another forum, I don’t believe there is actually a bill being offered . . . yet.
Won’t matter, the federal appeals court has ordered the state to author a conceal carry law and will strike down any attempts to flat out ban guns. It’s so nothing more than grandstanding.
Not exactly. Handguns were banned only in Chicago and a few suburbs, but the Supreme Court struck that down a few years ago. It’s still difficult to obtain a permit under the new ordinances though, because they make you jump through a lot of hoops.
Rifles and shotguns have always been legal throughout the state, even in Chicago, but there are no provisions for open or concealed carry (for the average citizen). So, basically, you can keep them in your home, and you can only transport them for certain purposes, like hunting, or going to the range. You also have to keep them unloaded, with the ammunition secured separately, while you are transporting them.
Not gun-friendly, but not exactly gun-free either.
As my wife and I did when we toured the U.S. recently, covering about 14,000 miles. We also twice drove non-stop across New York, spending not one thin dime in New York in either direction.
We made many stops in Texas, Virginia, and other states where I could legally carry.
True, but you know they are going to try to draft a “may issue” bill with all sorts of restrictions, so it will be at least as difficult to get a permit as it is in New York, probably even worse.
The next battlefront will be to get the courts to strike down “may issue” restrictions and force states to enfranchise all of their citizens.
I will probably draw a hail of fire and brimstone over this comment but here it goes.....
It is up to Illinois Citizens to police what their State does.
What the FERAL Court did was an overstep of their jurisdiction. The 2nd Amendment does not give the FERAL Government authority to do ANYTHING. The 2nd Amendmendment tells the FERAL government what it CANNOT do. Simple as that.
Illinois Citizens need to feed the hogs.....
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So, where’s the bill? What’s in it? What is the bill number, and who introduced it? The post links to nothing other than an “Alert” that says very, very little.
Most of rural folk in Illinois would vote to let Cook county join DC, Boulder Colorado, Austin Texas and become their only little state.
Ban what kind or kinds of guns? Draconian guns! [No information from any bill.]
ISRA hasn’t identified anything specific yet, and the NRA-ILA page doesn’t cite anything specific either. Basically, I’m taking this as a “be on your guard” warning to be proactive.
That said, Quinn already tried to shove an assault weapon ban through before the Newtown shootings, and he was overridden in both houses. I don’t see how things could have changed that much in Springfield, school shooting or not.
AMENDMENT I: CONGRESS shall make no law...
AMENDMENT II: The right OF THE PEOPLE shall not...
Kindly note the difference.
AMENDMENT I: CONGRESS shall make no law...
AMENDMENT II: The right OF THE PEOPLE shall not...
Exactly. Early state court decisions quoted the Second Amendment as applying to the States.
Also note that the Constitution guarantees a “Republican” form of government in the states, and the first clause of the Second Amendment notes that a “well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state” implies that each state needs to be able to form militias in order to remain free.
They could not form militias without the right to keep and bear arms.
It is up to Illinois Citizens to police what their State does.
As a resident of this socialist hell-hole named the People's RepubliK of Illannoyed, I couldn't agree more.
What the FERAL Court did was an overstep of their jurisdiction. The 2nd Amendment does not give the FERAL Government authority to do ANYTHING. The 2nd Amendmendment tells the FERAL government what it CANNOT do. Simple as that.
I think you're confusing Constitutional Amendments. It is the Tenth Amendment that tells the Federal Government what it cannot do to the states, ie "All rights not expressly given to the Federal Government are reserved by the States."
The Second Amendment is our Constitutional Guarantee to keep and bear arms.
In this case, the Federal Government via the Federal Appeals Court had a vested interest in ensuring that all citizens of the State of Illinois enjoyed their CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS as expressed by the Founding Fathers to keep and bear arms, and by natural extension have the right to defend themselves.
The State of Illinois is one or two (I think...) States left that does not have Conceal/Carry laws. The Federal Appeals Court struck down the State of Illinois' view that Citizens of the State only had a right to bear arms in self-defense in their homes.
In their ruling, the Federal Appeals Court ordered the State of Illinois to write a law enabling Conceal/Carry in Illinois, and that the state must issue Conceal/Carry permits.
The Federal Appeals court didn't stop there, they'll be REVIEWING the law after it's passed to validate that it enables Conceal/Carry and doesn't create undue/unnecessary burdens for the residents of Illinois to obtain Conceal/Carry permits. If the court finds the law the State of Illinois passes is too restrictive, they've already stated they'll strike it down and make Illinois try again (as necessary.) If the State does NOT meet the Court's requirements, the Court may order the State of Illinois to become "must issue" or "shall issue." Boy, won't that be exciting! (I think so, I live here!)
So in closing, in this case, the Federal Government via the Federal Appeals Court actually got this one exactly right.
Illinois Citizens need to feed the hogs.....
If you mean feed the Illinois Republican Party, I'll be the first to tell you that Illinois Republican's are the WORST form of RINO. They're nothing more than Socialist-Lite. Again, I live here, been here since 1977. Politically speaking, this state couldn't possibly be in worse shape.
Remember, we're the only state in the Country that has TWO former Governor's serving time in Federal Prison RIGHT NOW for Political Corruption.
Happy New Year!
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