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To: Olog-hai
...plans to introduce legislation...

This is the crux of the problem. Gay "marriage" doesn't involve anyone's rights, it involves more government. More control and re-engineering of society by government.
3 posted on 12/31/2012 3:32:32 AM PST by Telepathic Intruder (The only thing the Left has learned from the failures of socialism is not to call it that)
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To: Telepathic Intruder

Exactly. If they felt there was a problem with arranging legal matters for gay couples, they could easily solve that problem by creating a domestic partnership, which wouldn’t even have to be gay-specific but could extend to other people, such as a pair of siblings living together, a parent and an adult child, etc. It would be simply to simplify the legal and financial situation of a household, which in theory was what gays were complaining about initially.

But calling gay partnerships “marriage” (and I have met gays, btw, who were really opposed to this themselves) is an attempt to destroy marriage and the family as a social institution that the state perceives as a rival to its power over individuals and convert them into nothing more than “citizens,” entirely under the control and disposition of the state.


4 posted on 12/31/2012 4:02:40 AM PST by livius
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To: Telepathic Intruder

Exactly. Which amazes me that so-called “libertarians” are so strongly in favor of something that increases the size of government over our lives, not limit it which I though libertarians were supposedly in favor of.


6 posted on 12/31/2012 8:50:19 AM PST by ReformationFan
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