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‘Gun Control Fails,’ Say Statistics from … Gun-Control Advocates
PJ Media ^ | December 29, 2012

Posted on 12/30/2012 3:20:33 PM PST by george76

No dataset proving civilian disarmament made anybody safer. In response to Ezra Klein’s report titled “Twelve facts about guns and mass shootings in the United States,” below are eight fictions about gun control.

Do note: all data cited below are from sources supportive of gun control.

Fiction 1: Armed Resistance Does Not Stop Mass Murders.

Fiction 4: Gun Control Will Make You Safer...

This is false — including in the Australia and UK examples.

Before their bans, both countries had lower violent crime and murder rates than the United States. Ten years later, all U.S. violent crime categories have decreased, yet they have been increasing in the UK and Australia. The biggest tragedy: by 2007, UK women were raped twice as often as American women, who were able to partake of their civil right of self-defense. Australian women were raped three times as often.

Fiction 6: The U.S. Is One of the Most Violent Countries.

Fiction 7: Gun Control Reduces Mass Murders.

Fiction 8: Gun-Control Advocates Care About Other People, Gun-Rights Activists Are Selfish.

(Excerpt) Read more at pjmedia.com ...


TOPICS: Australia/New Zealand; Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Extended News; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: banglist; guncontrol; gunrights; secondamendment

1 posted on 12/30/2012 3:20:37 PM PST by george76
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I don't really care whether it works or not.

I'm not giving up my AR's and AK's. I no longer recognize the authority of the US government with respect to firearms.

2 posted on 12/30/2012 3:38:17 PM PST by Ouderkirk (Obama has turned America into an aristocracy of the unaccomplished.)
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To: Ouderkirk

I don’t really care whether it works or not.
I’m not giving up my AR’s and AK’s. I no longer recognize the authority of the US government with respect to firearms.

athere was a time when i used to respect it but times are a changing


3 posted on 12/30/2012 4:37:14 PM PST by 1st Division guy
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To: Ouderkirk
Gun Free UK also has a worse rate for all types of violence than the U.S. and even South Africa...The U.S. has a violence rate of 466 crimes per 100,000 residents. .


4 posted on 12/30/2012 4:37:58 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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“Over the last fifty years, with only one single exception (Gabby Giffords), every single mass shooting event with more than four casualties has taken place in a place where guns were supposedly not allowed.”

see:
http://larrycorreia.wordpress.com/2012/12/20/an-opinion-on-gun-control/

“In 2010, there were 12,996 murders. Firearms were used in 8,775. Of those, rifles were used in 358, and modern sport utility rifles, often called “assault rifles” are a fraction of those. These rifles are seldom used in crime because standard handguns, at close range, offer comparable firepower and are more easily concealed.

“Hands and feet were used to kill 742. Clubs were used to kill 540. Knives were used to kill 1,704.”

http://gunwatch.blogspot.com/2012/12/more-murdered-with-hands-and-feet-than.html


5 posted on 12/30/2012 5:34:11 PM PST by theBuckwheat
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To: george76
Read all five parts of this series and decide for yourself.
You will either agree totally, or disagree totally. Not a topic for the wishy-washy middle ground.

Basic premise : criminal killers do not now, nor ever will give a rat's elbow about existing anti-gun laws, or ten thousand more.

Read For Yourself

6 posted on 12/30/2012 6:09:27 PM PST by publius911 (Look for the Union Label -- then buy something else)
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To: Ouderkirk

Exactly. I don’t give a crap if gun control the way the Left means it works to reduce crime or not. I’d no more surrender my 2nd Amendment rights because of that whack job in CT than I would surrender my 1st Amendment rights because of those Westboro freaks.


7 posted on 12/30/2012 6:18:00 PM PST by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: theBuckwheat

BTTT


8 posted on 12/30/2012 8:45:09 PM PST by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: george76
Here's the real reason lefties want your guns- When the American public figures out how badly they've screwed things up for the citizens of this country and future generations of citizens, there will be no place to hide.
9 posted on 12/31/2012 8:53:30 AM PST by Rockitz (This is NOT rocket science - Follow the money and you'll find the truth.)
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To: george76

Got a year for that and US stats to go with?


10 posted on 12/31/2012 8:58:20 AM PST by Lee'sGhost (Johnny Rico picked the wrong girl!)
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To: george76

Explained numerous times, partly has to do with the unnaturally high amount of ‘violent’ offences on the UK statute books, some of which wouldnt be crimes of violence in other countries (the ship in bad weather assault crime being a classic example).


11 posted on 12/31/2012 9:27:57 AM PST by the scotsman (i)
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To: george76

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7Ion61SDo4

I seem to recall there were millions of AKs in Iraq, for what they were worth.

Still, I expect Gandhi might’ve pondered whether 80% salt is better than no salt at all.


12 posted on 12/31/2012 10:12:00 AM PST by TArcher
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To: Lee'sGhost

The most violent country in Europe: Britain is also worse than South Africa and U.S.

By James Slack... July 2009.

In the decade following the party’s election in 1997, the number of recorded violent attacks soared by 77 per cent to 1.158million - or more than two every minute.

The U.S. has a violence rate of 466 crimes per 100,000 residents, Canada 935, Australia 92 and South Africa 1,609.

Shadow Home Secretary Chris Grayling said: ‘This is a damning indictment of this government’s comprehensive failure over more than a decade to tackle the deep rooted social problems in our society, and the knock on effect on crime and anti-social behaviour.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1196941/The-violent-country-Europe-Britain-worse-South-Africa-U-S.html


13 posted on 12/31/2012 10:15:06 AM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: the scotsman

“...has to do with the unnaturally high amount of ‘violent’ offences on the UK statute books...”

So it’s a bookeeping error? You Brits are too fastidious?

OK, I’ll bite, what’s a “ship in bad weather assault crime?” I’m curious. What other kinds of non-violent crimes are reported as violent there? I know from experience that British cities “feel” safe for the most part, but feelings can be deceiving.

Maybe it’s something we can blame on the English and leave it at that :)


14 posted on 12/31/2012 11:31:57 AM PST by Owl558 ("Those who remember George Satayana are doomed to repeat him")
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To: george76

Excellent! Thanks much.


15 posted on 12/31/2012 12:37:32 PM PST by Lee'sGhost (Johnny Rico picked the wrong girl!)
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To: george76

Happy New Year!


16 posted on 12/31/2012 5:39:23 PM PST by neverdem ( Xin loi min oi)
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To: neverdem

Happy New Year.


17 posted on 12/31/2012 9:14:01 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks george76.


18 posted on 01/01/2013 12:33:16 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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