Skip to comments.‘Gun Control Fails,’ Say Statistics from … Gun-Control Advocates
Posted on 12/30/2012 3:20:33 PM PST by george76
No dataset proving civilian disarmament made anybody safer. In response to Ezra Kleins report titled Twelve facts about guns and mass shootings in the United States, below are eight fictions about gun control.
Do note: all data cited below are from sources supportive of gun control.
Fiction 1: Armed Resistance Does Not Stop Mass Murders.
Fiction 4: Gun Control Will Make You Safer...
This is false including in the Australia and UK examples.
Before their bans, both countries had lower violent crime and murder rates than the United States. Ten years later, all U.S. violent crime categories have decreased, yet they have been increasing in the UK and Australia. The biggest tragedy: by 2007, UK women were raped twice as often as American women, who were able to partake of their civil right of self-defense. Australian women were raped three times as often.
Fiction 6: The U.S. Is One of the Most Violent Countries.
Fiction 7: Gun Control Reduces Mass Murders.
Fiction 8: Gun-Control Advocates Care About Other People, Gun-Rights Activists Are Selfish.
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I'm not giving up my AR's and AK's. I no longer recognize the authority of the US government with respect to firearms.
I don’t really care whether it works or not.
I’m not giving up my AR’s and AK’s. I no longer recognize the authority of the US government with respect to firearms.
athere was a time when i used to respect it but times are a changing
Over the last fifty years, with only one single exception (Gabby Giffords), every single mass shooting event with more than four casualties has taken place in a place where guns were supposedly not allowed.
“In 2010, there were 12,996 murders. Firearms were used in 8,775. Of those, rifles were used in 358, and modern sport utility rifles, often called assault rifles are a fraction of those. These rifles are seldom used in crime because standard handguns, at close range, offer comparable firepower and are more easily concealed.
“Hands and feet were used to kill 742. Clubs were used to kill 540. Knives were used to kill 1,704.”
Basic premise : criminal killers do not now, nor ever will give a rat's elbow about existing anti-gun laws, or ten thousand more.
Exactly. I don’t give a crap if gun control the way the Left means it works to reduce crime or not. I’d no more surrender my 2nd Amendment rights because of that whack job in CT than I would surrender my 1st Amendment rights because of those Westboro freaks.
Got a year for that and US stats to go with?
Explained numerous times, partly has to do with the unnaturally high amount of ‘violent’ offences on the UK statute books, some of which wouldnt be crimes of violence in other countries (the ship in bad weather assault crime being a classic example).
I seem to recall there were millions of AKs in Iraq, for what they were worth.
Still, I expect Gandhi might’ve pondered whether 80% salt is better than no salt at all.
The most violent country in Europe: Britain is also worse than South Africa and U.S.
By James Slack... July 2009.
In the decade following the party’s election in 1997, the number of recorded violent attacks soared by 77 per cent to 1.158million - or more than two every minute.
The U.S. has a violence rate of 466 crimes per 100,000 residents, Canada 935, Australia 92 and South Africa 1,609.
Shadow Home Secretary Chris Grayling said: ‘This is a damning indictment of this government’s comprehensive failure over more than a decade to tackle the deep rooted social problems in our society, and the knock on effect on crime and anti-social behaviour.
“...has to do with the unnaturally high amount of violent offences on the UK statute books...”
So it’s a bookeeping error? You Brits are too fastidious?
OK, I’ll bite, what’s a “ship in bad weather assault crime?” I’m curious. What other kinds of non-violent crimes are reported as violent there? I know from experience that British cities “feel” safe for the most part, but feelings can be deceiving.
Maybe it’s something we can blame on the English and leave it at that :)
Excellent! Thanks much.
Happy New Year!
Happy New Year.