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It's Official: Muslim Population of Britain Doubles
Gatestone Institute ^ | December 21, 2012 | Douglas Murray

Posted on 12/30/2012 8:58:58 AM PST by george76

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To: IslamE

Yes, we have great problems, but it is still a good place to live, work and raise a family. Like America.

Cameron is a RINO by your standards. Still, hes better than the alternative.


41 posted on 12/30/2012 5:18:34 PM PST by the scotsman (i)
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To: the scotsman

True, I love your country, I hope you are right, the census was a shock, time will tell, it’s been stressful in the states, I wish I still drank, well, God bless you and your family, I wish you a wonderful New Year.


42 posted on 12/30/2012 6:11:25 PM PST by IslamE (epiphany)
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To: the scotsman

Cosmopolitan is one thing, but disproportionately Muslim is another. I’m from NYC, and I’d be pretty disturbed if it had the same percentage of fabric swathed females as I saw in London.


43 posted on 12/30/2012 6:21:32 PM PST by livius
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To: the scotsman
And neither did the UK have its arms taken all away. Only handguns on the mainland (they are legal in NI as is concealed carry). Rifles and shotguns are legal all over the UK.

So we are to believe that a Brit can carry around a rifle or shotgun for personal protection? Yeah, right. If you can't carry a concealed handgun, you are disarmed.

44 posted on 12/30/2012 7:45:23 PM PST by LoneRangerMassachusetts (The meek shall not inherit the Earth)
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To: the scotsman
And neither did the UK have its arms taken all away. Only handguns on the mainland (they are legal in NI as is concealed carry). Rifles and shotguns are legal all over the UK.

So we are to believe that a Brit can carry around a rifle or shotgun for personal protection? Yeah, right. If you can't carry a concealed handgun, you are disarmed.

45 posted on 12/30/2012 7:45:23 PM PST by LoneRangerMassachusetts (The meek shall not inherit the Earth)
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To: the scotsman

Have you seen the books written by Theodore Dalyrimple? Do you think he is accurate in his portrayal of the British underclass, or is he unduly pessimistic in his opinion on the cultural decline?

(not challenging you here, just want your honest opinion)


46 posted on 12/30/2012 10:22:02 PM PST by Pining_4_TX (All those who were appointed to eternal life believed. Acts 13:48)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Brits have a more liberal definition for a violent crime than the United States. British large cities (I’ve walked around a number of them) are much more safer than American large cities....that’s a fact.


47 posted on 12/31/2012 2:47:34 AM PST by driftless2
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To: the scotsman
We read the occasional story re somebody (in London?) defending themselves and being hauled away to, well, wherever it is they haul you away to.

Also, I thought your rifles and shotguns were a) only allowed to a select few and b) had to be stored in a facility not your home.

Finally, what kind of rifles and shotguns are we talking about?

48 posted on 12/31/2012 3:51:06 AM PST by LouAvul
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To: LouAvul
Also, I thought your rifles and shotguns were a) only allowed to a select few and b) had to be stored in a facility not your home.

A select few? Shotgun certificates are easy to obtain. My shooting neighbours grumble about the paperwork, but none have any difficulty in renewing. There could well be more legally-owned shotguns and hunting rifles in circulation now than at any time, given the booming popularity of country shooting sports. (I have two large commercial game shooting estates within hearing distance of my house). No problems with storing them at home, as long as you have a secure gun safe.

Shotguns and sporting rifles have always been by far the most widely-owned categories of gun in Britain, and have scarcely been affected by the various gun control measures. Handguns were always a very small, fringe interest by comparison.

49 posted on 12/31/2012 5:54:54 AM PST by Winniesboy
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To: driftless2

The Brits having a more liberal definition of violent crime is their problem so let them be proud of their being four times more violent than Americans!


50 posted on 12/31/2012 7:11:27 AM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Winniesboy
Your guns must be secured in a gun safe?

Also, what would happen if an intruder armed with a knife broke into your home and you shot him to death?

Third, you mention "sporting rifle." What constitutes a "sporting rifle?"

51 posted on 12/31/2012 8:23:30 AM PST by LouAvul
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Look friend, I’m an American. I’ve walked around my share of large American cities, and I’ve walked around a number of British cities. I felt a lot safer walking around Brit cities. If you think large Brit cities are more violent than large American cities, you’re being misled. They might have more property crimes, but they’re for sure not nearly as violent as large American cities.


52 posted on 12/31/2012 8:35:51 AM PST by driftless2
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To: LouAvul

As explained before, if a homeowner injures or kills an intruder, everyone ‘gets nicked’ and taken to the police station until what happened can be fully established. By and large, the homeowner will be released quickly.

I know it sounds a bit backward, but it simply police procedure here. Not the dark oppressive treatment of the ‘self-defender’. I’d be happier if the procedure was more to the US way, but it is what it is.


53 posted on 12/31/2012 8:36:17 AM PST by the scotsman (i)
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To: Olog-hai; bruinbirdman; Cincinna; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; ...

Thanks george76.


54 posted on 12/31/2012 9:06:15 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: LouAvul

1—Pretty much any rifle and shotgun that you want and is sold here. As long as I have a firearms certificate , which I do, I can buy a rifle in .44 Magnum, 7.62 Nato, and even a Sharps rifle (there a nice one selling online for £1300)

I can buy a pump action shotgun, and any shotgun I want, any ammo. I can buy any deactivated gun I want, even up to a piece of field artillery!, lol.

I can buy replicas. And most air weapons by and large are not only legal but unlicenced.

I own one rifle, one shotgun, several older replicas, and numerous air pistols and rifles. I have in fact just today bought a .22 air rifle for £75 in the Christmas sales at my local gun shop. And I have my eye on one of the new .50 cal air rifles, lol. I will probably buy another few air pistols this year.

2—There are 930,000 firearms certificates in the UK (how many people that equates to, I dont know, some people have just a rifle or shotgun cert., some have both), and 2.3 million legal weapons, 99% of which will be rifles and shotguns, a small amount will be handguns, most of those will be in Northern Ireland where handguns are legal.


55 posted on 12/31/2012 9:10:25 AM PST by the scotsman (i)
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To: IslamE

And I love yours.

Take care and have a guid New Year.


56 posted on 12/31/2012 9:11:23 AM PST by the scotsman (i)
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To: Pining_4_TX

Sadly, he is spot on.


57 posted on 12/31/2012 9:27:52 AM PST by the scotsman (i)
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To: the scotsman

What Islam Isn’t
 
By Dr. Peter Hammond
FrontPageMagazine.com | Monday, April 21, 2008  
The following is adapted from Dr. Peter Hammond’s book: Slavery, Terrorism and Islam: The Historical Roots and Contemporary Threat:
Islam is not a religion nor is it a cult. It is a complete system.

Islam has religious, legal, political, economic and military components. The religious component is a beard for all the other components.

Islamization occurs when there are sufficient Muslims in a country to agitate for their so-called ‘religious rights.’

When politically correct and culturally diverse societies agree to ‘the reasonable’ Muslim demands for their ‘religious rights,’ they also get the other components under the table. Here’s how it works (percentages source CIA: The World Fact Book (2007)).

As long as the Muslim population remains around 1% of any given country they will be regarded as a peace-loving minority and not as a threat to anyone. In fact, they may be featured in articles and films, stereotyped for their colorful uniqueness:

United States — Muslim 1.0%
Australia — Muslim 1.5%
Canada — Muslim 1.9%
China — Muslim 1%-2%
Italy — Muslim 1.5%
Norway — Muslim 1.8%

At 2% and 3% they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs:

Denmark — Muslim 2%
Germany — Muslim 3.7%
United Kingdom — Muslim 2.7%
Spain — Muslim 4%
Thailand — Muslim 4.6%

From 5% on they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population.

They will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature it on their shelves — along with threats for failure to comply. ( United States ).

France — Muslim 8%
Philippines — Muslim 5%
Sweden — Muslim 5%
Switzerland — Muslim 4.3%
The Netherlands — Muslim 5.5%
Trinidad &Tobago — Muslim 5.8%

At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves under Sharia, the Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of Islam is not to convert the world but to establish Sharia law over the entire world.

When Muslims reach 10% of the population, they will increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions ( Paris –car-burnings). Any non-Muslim action that offends Islam will result in uprisings and threats ( Amsterdam - Mohammed cartoons).

Guyana — Muslim 10%
India — Muslim 13.4%
Israel — Muslim 16%
Kenya — Muslim 10%
Russia — Muslim 10-15%

After reaching 20% expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings and church and synagogue burning:

Ethiopia — Muslim 32.8%

At 40% you will find widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks and ongoing militia warfare:

Bosnia — Muslim 40%
Chad — Muslim 53.1%
Lebanon — Muslim 59.7%

From 60% you may expect unfettered persecution of non-believers and other religions, sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon and Jizya, the tax placed on infidels:

Albania — Muslim 70%
Malaysia — Muslim 60.4%
Qatar — Muslim 77.5%
Sudan — Muslim 70%

After 80% expect State run ethnic cleansing and genocide:

Bangladesh — Muslim 83%
Egypt — Muslim 90%
Gaza — Muslim 98.7%
Indonesia — Muslim 86.1%
Iran — Muslim 98%
Iraq — Muslim 97%
Jordan — Muslim 92%
Morocco — Muslim 98.7%
Pakistan — Muslim 97%
Palestine — Muslim 99%
Syria — Muslim 90%
Tajikistan — Muslim 90%
Turkey — Muslim 99.8%
United Arab Emirates — Muslim 96%

100% will usher in the peace of ‘Dar-es-Salaam’ — the Islamic House of Peace — there’s supposed to be peace because everybody is a Muslim:

Afghanistan — Muslim 100%
Saudi Arabia — Muslim 100%
Somalia — Muslim 100%
Yemen — Muslim 99.9%

Of course, that’s not the case. To satisfy their blood lust, Muslims then start killing each other for a variety of reasons.
‘Before I was nine I had learned the basic canon of Arab life. It was me against my brother; me and my brother against our father; my family against my cousins and the clan; the clan against the tribe; and the tribe against the world and all of us against the infidel. – Leon Uris, ‘The Haj’
It is good to remember that in many, many countries, such as France, the Muslim populations are centered around ghettos based on their ethnicity. Muslims do not integrate into the community at large. Therefore, they exercise more power than their national average would indicate.


58 posted on 12/31/2012 12:27:54 PM PST by itsahoot (Any enemy, that is allowed to have a King's X line, is undefeatable. (USS Taluga AO-62))
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To: Jack Hydrazine

I’m not sure the Brits are leading. The French have very large numbers from N. Africa, the Germans from Turkey, and the Dutch from the old Dutch East Indies. Sweden and Denmark have lots.


59 posted on 12/31/2012 1:37:58 PM PST by expat2
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To: what's up

I’m convinced that there is also a lot of Arab money bending their minds, in both the UK and the US.


60 posted on 12/31/2012 1:40:10 PM PST by expat2
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