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Examiner Local Editorial: Fairness issue at center of NBC stunt
The Washington Examiner ^

Posted on 12/30/2012 7:33:28 AM PST by marktwain

An on-air stunt involving an empty high-capacity gun magazine brandished by NBC "Meet the Press" host David Gregory last Sunday in the wake of the Newtown, Conn., school shootings has taken a bizarre twist. But it raises important issues about fairness and equality before the law.

After being called out by viewers, the Metropolitan Police Department confirmed that the incident is "under investigation" because it's illegal to even have such a device in one's possession in the District of Columbia, where the show was taped. The law in question is crystal clear: "No person in the District shall possess, sell, or transfer any large capacity ammunition feeding device regardless of whether the device is attached to a firearm." (Emphasis added) Offenses are punishable by up to a year in jail and a $1,000 fine.

There doesn't seem much to investigate. Gregory himself admitted on national television, while he was interviewing Wayne LaPierre, CEO of the National Rifle Association, about gun control, that one of the magazines he displayed held 30 rounds. MPD spokeswoman Gwendolyn Crump confirmed that NBC sought prior permission to use the empty magazine as a prop on the show, but the network's request was properly denied. And what part of "no person" exempts a talk show host from the District's ammo ban?

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonexaminer.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; crime; dc; gregory; guncontrol; secondamendment
"Progressives" do not believe in the rule of law. They are actually regressives, believing in a return to the rule of man, where who you know and who you are matter much more than whether you broke the law or not.
1 posted on 12/30/2012 7:33:39 AM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain

This is the stupidest thing - all he needs to say was it was a prop - let the feds prove otherwise.


2 posted on 12/30/2012 7:39:37 AM PST by qwerty1234
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To: marktwain

Laws are for little people


3 posted on 12/30/2012 7:40:34 AM PST by irish guard
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To: marktwain
Sad to say but, this formerly great nation has not been a “nation of laws” for many many years.
Celebrities, politicians and others in positions of power are usually exempt from the laws we are supposed to not only obey but to honor and celebrate our compliance.
4 posted on 12/30/2012 7:44:36 AM PST by Tupelo (I'm an old man and most people hate me, but I don't like them either so that makes it all even.)
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To: marktwain

“We’re democrats...our corruption doesn’t count”


5 posted on 12/30/2012 7:46:10 AM PST by RckyRaCoCo (I prefer liberty with danger to peace with slavery, IXNAY THE TSA!)
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To: qwerty1234
all he needs to say was it was a prop

A very illegal prop. Lock him up.

6 posted on 12/30/2012 7:47:12 AM PST by Libloather (The epitome of civility.)
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To: marktwain

The dumb, arrogant ass could have broadcast that segment from Pennsylvania or Virginia, where they are legal, but DC people can’t see beyond the beltway.


7 posted on 12/30/2012 7:48:24 AM PST by Daveinyork (."Trusting government with power and money is like trusting teenaged boys with whiskey and car keys,)
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To: qwerty1234

I don’t believe ‘elite excuses’ trump the law. This is still a country based on ‘equal before the law’. Are you some nutty liberal elitist qwerty?


8 posted on 12/30/2012 7:53:43 AM PST by GOPJ (It's not possible to be a Progressive and not be a hypocrite. Freeper TigersEye.)
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To: marktwain

Everyone knows that employees of the major media are Super Citizens...


9 posted on 12/30/2012 7:56:46 AM PST by MRadtke (Light a candle or curse the darkness?)
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To: Tupelo

Why have laws if only the ‘little people” have to follow them? You’re coming across like a liberal elitist pig... you might want to rethink this Tupelo - or I missed your sarcasm and owe you an apology. You can’t be serious, right?


10 posted on 12/30/2012 7:57:10 AM PST by GOPJ (It's not possible to be a Progressive and not be a hypocrite. Freeper TigersEye.)
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To: Libloather
A very illegal prop.

Let's look at that.

First, Article I, §8: "To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of particular States, and the Acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States".

Then, Amendment II: "the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed".

Now, this so-called "law" that David Gregory broke was not passed by Congress - you know, the Congress that has EXCLUSIVE power to legislate, IN ALL CASES WHATSOEVER?. And, this act of pretended legislation infringes on Mr. Gregory's right to bear arms, neh?

Any way you look at it, he should be in the clear.

11 posted on 12/30/2012 7:57:10 AM PST by Jim Noble (Diseases desperate grown are by desperate appliance relieved, or not at all)
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To: marktwain
No person in the District shall possess, sell, or transfer any large capacity ammunition feeding device regardless of whether the device is attached to a firearm.

Somebody imported that mag and was in illegal posession of it in D.C.before they illegally transferred it to Gregory. Unless of course, Gregory drove to Virginia and bought it himself.

12 posted on 12/30/2012 8:01:55 AM PST by umgud (No Rats, No Rino's)
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To: marktwain

Progressive mantra: Rules are for suckers


13 posted on 12/30/2012 8:02:27 AM PST by wxgesr (I want to be the first person to surf on another planet.)
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To: marktwain

It was a great demonstration of why gun laws don’t work. They only disarm the honest who didn’t need disarmed in the first place.


14 posted on 12/30/2012 8:03:55 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Libloather
A very illegal prop. Lock him up.

Only illegal if you concede that unconstitutional laws are "legal". I say let him stay free and use it as a springboard to deter prosecution of others for "breaking" this illegal law.

You either believe in the 2nd Amendment or you don't - can't have it both ways and be anything resembling consistent with Constituitoonal beliefs...

15 posted on 12/30/2012 8:11:07 AM PST by trebb (Allies no longer trust us. Enemies no longer fear us.)
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To: Libloather
A very illegal prop. Lock him up.

Only illegal if you concede that unconstitutional laws are "legal". I say let him stay free and use it as a springboard to deter prosecution of others for "breaking" this illegal law.

You either believe in the 2nd Amendment or you don't - can't have it both ways and be anything resembling consistent with Constituitional beliefs...

16 posted on 12/30/2012 8:11:30 AM PST by trebb (Allies no longer trust us. Enemies no longer fear us.)
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To: irish guard
"Laws are for little people"

How true - at least in the minds of the leftist ruling elite. The believe they are destined to guide the unwashed masses to a better world and they will do whatever they feel is necessary to assure that leadership.

17 posted on 12/30/2012 8:13:07 AM PST by Truth29
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To: GOPJ
Why have laws if only the ‘little people” have to follow them? You’re coming across like a liberal elitist pig... you might want to rethink this Tupelo - or I missed your sarcasm and owe you an apology. You can’t be serious, right?

See post 15 - if it doesn't change your mind, you can turn your guns in now to avoid the rush.

18 posted on 12/30/2012 8:14:39 AM PST by trebb (Allies no longer trust us. Enemies no longer fear us.)
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To: Jim Noble
Now, this so-called "law" that David Gregory broke was not passed by Congress

Congress passes every gun law? News to me. Some DC goofball got this passed -

DC High Capacity Ammunition Magazines – D.C. Official Code 7-2506.01

(b) No person in the District shall possess, sell, or transfer any large capacity ammunition feeding device regardless of whether the device is attached to a firearm. For the purposes of this subsection, the term large capacity ammunition feeding device means a magazine, belt, drum, feed strip, or similar device that has a capacity of, or that can be readily restored or converted to accept, more than 10 rounds of ammunition.

Gregory lives and works there. He even called the cops beforehand and they rejected his request. He broke the law. Lock him up.

19 posted on 12/30/2012 8:17:04 AM PST by Libloather (The epitome of civility.)
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To: marktwain
"The Law does not apply to the LawMakers!" is the attitude in Washington.

David Gregory and the 4th Estate believe that they are a part of that ruling elite.

20 posted on 12/30/2012 8:18:45 AM PST by sjmjax (Politicans are like bananas - they start out green, turn yellow, then rot.)
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To: trebb
Only illegal if you concede that unconstitutional laws are "legal".

When was DC High Capacity Ammunition Magazines – D.C. Official Code 7-2506.01 deemed unconstitutional?

David, is that you?

21 posted on 12/30/2012 8:20:35 AM PST by Libloather (The epitome of civility.)
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To: GOPJ

I would suggest you need to go back and READ my post. You are coming across like a f**king idiot.


22 posted on 12/30/2012 8:22:39 AM PST by Tupelo (I'm an old man and most people hate me, but I don't like them either so that makes it all even.)
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To: GOPJ
This is still a country based on ‘equal before the law’

ROTFLMAO

23 posted on 12/30/2012 8:50:07 AM PST by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: Libloather
When was DC High Capacity Ammunition Magazines – D.C. Official Code 7-2506.01 deemed unconstitutional? David, is that you?

When was it deemed constituional? Do you posit that all the laws that have been allowed to stand are constitutional? How about ObamaCare - does an idiot SCOTUS reading of tea leaves vs. the Constitution make a law constitutional? If so, there is no law to which you would not kneel because it hadn't been "deemed unconstituitional"

Pelosi, Reid, Obama, is that one of you?

24 posted on 12/30/2012 9:03:29 AM PST by trebb (Allies no longer trust us. Enemies no longer fear us.)
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To: trebb
Do me a HUGE favor. Go to DC with a 30 round magazine - your choice - and start waving it around. Having a local cameraman record it would be a bonus.

Report back on what happens - right after your prison term.

25 posted on 12/30/2012 9:10:35 AM PST by Libloather (The epitome of civility.)
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To: RckyRaCoCo
“We’re democrats...our corruption doesn’t count”


26 posted on 12/30/2012 11:35:25 AM PST by Peet (Alles hat ein Ende nur die Wurst hat zwei. (Monroe in "Grimm"))
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To: Libloather
Do me a HUGE favor. Go to DC with a 30 round magazine - your choice - and start waving it around. Having a local cameraman record it would be a bonus. Report back on what happens - right after your prison term.

You seem to be missing the point and are more intent on making it personal. I never said there weren't consequences for "breaking" unconstitutional "laws", I said that there are many on the books and we abide by them as they whittle away at our Freedoms. My original post that you took such offense at merely stated that I thought they should let the twerp go free for having the magazine and it should be a springboard to stop imposing punishments on anyone when the "law" they "break" is unconstitutional. You jumped on it as me supporting the idiot when I was merely pointint out that if I don't think We The People should have to be in fear of unconstitutional "laws", then I couldn't very well want anyone else, no matter how I might despise him, to be "convicted" of "laws" I consider unconstitutional. I understand that he is apparently getting away with something that you or I would not get away with and that sucks, but it also shows how weak the "law" and those that enforce it,really is when those who dictate these unconstitutional atrocities on us are not uniform in who gets punished.

I believe you and are ideologically on the same side, despite the recent repartee, so how about we both take a deep breath and focus more on what the Founders intended instead of knocking each other about the head and shoulders. I'm calling a truce and hope you will too - either way, I'm done.

27 posted on 12/30/2012 1:14:59 PM PST by trebb (Allies no longer trust us. Enemies no longer fear us.)
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To: qwerty1234
qwerty1234 said: "This is the stupidest thing - all he needs to say was it was a prop - let the feds prove otherwise."

I like this idea a lot.

Let's see Gregory and his network get involved in a conspiracy involving obstruction of justice and perjury. There's liable to be somebody in a nearby jurisdiction, where it is legal to practice the Second Amendment, who can safely and truthfully testify as to where the magazine came from.

Most of the 65 people convicted of felonies during the Watergate scandal were found guilty of perjury. They had no direct involvement in the burglary.

Please pass the popcorn.

28 posted on 12/30/2012 8:15:01 PM PST by William Tell
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To: trebb
trebb said: ... that I thought they should let the twerp go free for having the magazine and it should be a springboard to stop imposing punishments on anyone when the "law" they "break" is unconstitutional.

Kalifornia bans importation, manufacture, or transfer of such magazines. Letting Gregory off the hook does nothing for me here in the People's Republik.

If Gregory is charged, as he should be, then his network can pay his legal bills all the way up to the Supreme Court and then we will be permanently done with this nonsense.

The Supreme Court in their Heller decision pointed out that interpreting the Second Amendment is not a balancing act.

I have a hard time seeing the Supreme Court deciding how many rounds a gun magazine may contain.

Sotomayor and Kagan may spend some time trying to figure out whether it should be 9 or 11, but most will realize that imposing any limit is an infringement.

29 posted on 12/30/2012 8:28:31 PM PST by William Tell
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