Posted on 12/28/2012 1:26:26 PM PST by House Atreides
President Barack Obama issued an executive order to end the pay freeze on federal employees, in effect giving some federal workers a raise. One federal worker now to receive a pay increase is Vice President Joe Biden.
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I WISH we had a pay freeze! My husband had his pay CUT by 20% four years ago and we have had to adjust to that since then. We have never seen any of that come back and don’t expect to anytime soon.
However, regardless of my earlier post. I do NOT see how Bh0’s EO raising pay of Federal employees can be LEGAL & CONSTITUTIONAL.
Having just left federal service after more than 8 years, I can speak to the fact that the government is hemorrhaging their best employees left and right because of the pay freeze.
It isn’t the bad employees who leave. The best employees go. While I’m still working in a similar industry, most aren’t - and believe me, it significantly weakens national defense. Nobody cares if they think that some IRS stooge isn’t getting a pay raise. I think they might sit up and take notice if they realized trained engineers are leaving once-prominent federal research and defense agencies because of a perpetual pay freeze.
You know what...
It is time, way past time, but now is as good as time as any....
I say we shove them over the fiscal cliff and shut the suckers down!!!
He’s not up to being a dictator, just a dick.
I had to suffer with a 1/3 pay CUT under his reign of error. NO RAISES for federal employees. WE CANNOT AFFORD IT.
Does this mean that Joe Biden is no longer in the middle class as he repeatedly told voters at rallies in 2012?
It's not real money anymore anyway.
Given that there's no inflation, what is the rationale for a federal worker pay increase? Sure as sh*t the seniors aren't going to see any COLA.
He may not...but he can, as there is no controlling legal authority
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Oh I am sure the Republican led House will draft a letter to strongly object, mention it on the floor, Pelosi or another D leader will object and it will get tabled until???????
The other 20thousand drafts are cleared up.
Buy your ice skates now as we will be skating in Hell when this happens.
Buckwheat has no idea of the precarious situation that he’s in. His mercenary Secret Service traitors are more interested in chasing hookers than protecting him.
This ain’t your daddy’s Secret Service, Buckwheat.
The sequence of these EOs on federal pay goes back aways.. Here they are in sequence starting with Obama’s today EO and through the Bush years..
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Yes, but those executive orders followed Congressional action authorizing a certain level of pay raise. Once that happened then the President decided how much of the authorized/specified raise would be allocated to “locality pay”.
I may have missed it, but I do not recall Congressional action passing this pay raise. Perhaps it was done recently and buried in some of the limited legislation that got through the Senate’s inaction.
Over 150,000 search and rescues have been conducted in the National Parks since 1872.
233 National Park Employees have died while on duty:
http://www.nps.gov/jotr/parknews/ohlfs.htm And this is not just law enforcement; for the most part these folks are regular people.
Most of the people conducting these rescues are frontline NPS employees, making gs-9 to gs-11 pay: 50k to 60k per year, which considering the high cost of living in and around the major national parks is a pretty good bargain. (Try to purchase groceries or go to the nearest Walmart when you work at the Grand Canyon and you will see how quickly the cost of living can eat up a budget.)
From 1992 to 2007 there were 78,488 individuals involved in 65,439 search and rescue incidents. These incidents ended with 2659 fatalities, 24,288 ill or injured individuals, and 13,212 saves. On average there were 11.2 search and rescue incidents each day.
Without the presence of NPS personnel responding to search and rescue incidents, 1 in 5 (20%) of those requesting search and rescue assistance would be a fatality.
Search and Rescue Reports for just one park:
http://www.nps.gov/mora/planyourvisit/search-and-rescue-reports.htm
Park Ranger falls 3,700 feet during rescue:
National Park Ranger Deaths:
Park Ranger Margaret Anderson
United States Department of the Interior - National Park Service
EOW: Sunday, January 1, 2012
Cause: Gunfire
Park Ranger Julie Ann Weir
United States Department of the Interior - National Park Service
EOW: Thursday, February 24, 2011
Cause: Automobile accident
Park Ranger Christopher Nickel
United States Department of the Interior - National Park Service
EOW: Saturday, January 29, 2011
Cause: Duty related illness
Special Agent Daniel Paul Madrid
United States Department of the Interior - National Park Service - Office of Investigations
EOW: Saturday, September 24, 2005
Cause: Heart attack
Seasonal Park Ranger Jeffrey A. Christensen
United States Department of the Interior - National Park Service
EOW: Friday, July 29, 2005
Cause: Fall
Park Ranger Suzanne E. “Suzi” Roberts
United States Department of the Interior - National Park Service
EOW: Tuesday, September 14, 2004
Cause: Weather/Natural disaster
Park Ranger Thomas Patrick O’Hara
United States Department of the Interior - National Park Service
EOW: Thursday, December 19, 2002
Cause: Aircraft accident
Park Ranger Kristopher William Eggle
United States Department of the Interior - National Park Service
EOW: Friday, August 9, 2002
Cause: Gunfire
Park Ranger Steve Renard Makuakane-Jarrell
United States Department of the Interior - National Park Service
EOW: Sunday, December 12, 1999
Cause: Gunfire
Park Ranger Joseph David Kolodski
United States Department of the Interior - National Park Service
EOW: Sunday, June 21, 1998
Cause: Gunfire
Seasonal Park Ranger Michael A. Beaulieu
United States Department of the Interior - National Park Service
EOW: Monday, August 26, 1996
Cause: Automobile accident
Park Ranger James Randall “Randy” Morgenson
United States Department of the Interior - National Park Service
EOW: Tuesday, July 23, 1996
Cause: Drowned
Park Ranger Ryan Francis Weltman
United States Department of the Interior - National Park Service
EOW: Sunday, July 3, 1994
Cause: Drowned
Park Ranger Robert E. Mahn, Jr.
United States Department of the Interior - National Park Service
EOW: Monday, January 17, 1994
Cause: Automobile accident
Park Ranger Robert Lewis McGhee, Jr.
United States Department of the Interior - National Park Service
EOW: Saturday, May 26, 1990
Cause: Gunfire
Park Ranger Duane P. McClure
United States Department of the Interior - National Park Service
EOW: Thursday, May 22, 1980
Cause: Drowned
Park Ranger Ward W. Hall
United States Department of the Interior - National Park Service
EOW: Monday, July 16, 1979
Cause: Automobile accident
Park Ranger Gregory Scott Burdine
United States Department of the Interior - National Park Service
EOW: Saturday, November 26, 1977
Cause: Vehicle pursuit
Park Ranger James P. Fleetwood
United States Department of the Interior - National Park Service
EOW: Tuesday, July 5, 1977
Cause: Automobile accident
Park Ranger Thomas Kenneth “T.K.” Brown
United States Department of the Interior - National Park Service
EOW: Friday, August 31, 1973
Cause: Heart attack
Park Ranger Kenneth Carmel Patrick
United States Department of the Interior - National Park Service
EOW: Sunday, August 5, 1973
Cause: Gunfire
Park Ranger John C. Fonda
United States Department of the Interior - National Park Service
EOW: Wednesday, March 9, 1960
Cause: Drowned
District Ranger Gale H. Wilcox
United States Department of the Interior - National Park Service
EOW: Wednesday, March 9, 1960
Cause: Exposure
Assistant Chief Ranger Charles R. Scarborough
United States Department of the Interior - National Park Service
EOW: Monday, June 21, 1954
Cause: Weather/Natural disaster
Park Ranger Karl A. Jacobson
United States Department of the Interior - National Park Service
EOW: Friday, November 11, 1938
Cause: Gunfire
Park Ranger Fred Johnson
United States Department of the Interior - National Park Service
EOW: Wednesday, February 20, 1929
Cause: Drowned
Park Ranger Glen Sturdevant
United States Department of the Interior - National Park Service
EOW: Wednesday, February 20, 1929
Cause: Drowned
Park Ranger James Alexander Cary
United States Department of the Interior - National Park Service
EOW: Saturday, March 12, 1927
Cause: Gunfire
Then you should know that the raises were halted by executive order, therefore he has the authority to restore them by executive order. The real constitutional question is if someone has the authority to halt congressionally manadated raises by executive order.
Then you should know that the raises were halted by executive order, therefore he has the authority to restore them by executive order.
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Several years ago Obama wanted to beat Congress to the punch and PROPOSED a federal civilian employee pay freeze. Congress said sure, and didn’t propose a pay raise for the past three years.
There are no automatic annual federal employee pay raises so there are no automatic pay raises to “halt by executive order”. As part of the annual appropriations process, Congress will include a certain amount of money for federal pay raises (along with specifying how big [percentage increase] that pay increase should be) IF IT IS SO INCLINED. It HAS NOT been so inclined in recent years.
You very well may know more of the details of this process than I do, but please post a link to some documentation showing that this current Congress has passed a pay raise for 2013.
Millions of people are out of work. Obama gives federal employees a pay raise. If only we didn’t have a corrupt MSM to report the news.
Yup, it’s the Republican controlled House that’s the BIG elephant in the room. Shame on Boehner for all he has allowed this President to do since the GOP gained control in 2010. The truth is, the Republicans no longer deserve to keep the House. If I feel this way as much as I dislike Nancy Pelosi I know millions of other feel this way.
At this point I see a super majority happening in 2014.
I think this is exactly what Boehner wants. Less work for him if the GOP is the minority party.
We all know Obama HATES America and the Constitution. Knowing that, can you blame him for taking advantage of the do nothing Republicans?
Based on what the ‘leadership’ has done recently (folding like a lawn chair on every damn thing coming down the pipe), exactly how ‘banding together’ would have been any different??
The GOP would still not have the Senate and these ‘problems’ would still be on their plate. So nothing would still get ‘done’, the media would still be blaming the GOP and the GOP would still be bending over for their ankles ‘cuz they were called bad names. There’s no real fight to reduce ANY part of gov’t coming from the GOP; no real plan (oh, the 5/10yr. models...SURE).
I’ll even contend, w/ the CT shooting, Mitt would be on the forefront for new gun laws and possibly even another AWB bill. So, again, what difference would it have been??
Lighten up?! More executive fiat, blowing $$ we don’t have, on ‘employees’ that should be out a friggin’ JOB. Whole departments should be zero’d out and let loose, but not word one I’ve heard on that wish-list.
But, don’t worry that D.C. is the fastest growing employer, the largest $$ shift in the country, etc. It’s not like they can’t just PRINT more, eh?!
Next time, we might actually be talking about real $$$. Lighten up my hairy white ass!
What a perfect opportunity for every Republican in the House and the Senate to put their money where their mouths are!
Ahead of the "negotiations" which it is rumored is ongoing.
Refuse the pay raise to a man! C'mon guys!
Deficit spending? Federal debt? What stinkin' Federal Deficit and National debt?
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