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organist dies days after brutal attack as he walked to church to play at Christmas Eve Midnight Mass
Daily Mail ^ | 28 Dec 2012 | Steve Robson

Posted on 12/28/2012 6:49:05 AM PST by Cronos

A 'gentle, well-respected' organist has died after being subjected to a brutal attack that left him with horrific head injuries.

Grandfather Alan Greaves, 68, was on his way to Midnight Mass at St Saviour's CoE church in High Green, Sheffield, South Yorkshire, on Christmas Eve when he was set upon. He was found by a pizza delivery worker collapsed on the pavement outside a primary school just 300 metres from the church.

He was rushed to hospital with severe head injuries and underwent a four-hour emergency operation but has since passed away.

'He was a good man and this was an evil act,' said Canon Bessant. 'He was a gentle soul. He wasn't foolish - he would have handled the situation as best as anyone would but we don't know what he encountered.'

'His wife wants justice but she doesn't want vengeance. She is not embittered but obviously she wants this person to be caught.' ..

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: christmas; waronchristmas
May his soul rest in peace
1 posted on 12/28/2012 6:49:10 AM PST by Cronos
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To: Cronos

Remember: Britain is a violence-free utopia thanks to its gun ban.


2 posted on 12/28/2012 6:58:36 AM PST by relictele
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To: Cronos

so sad. We live in a sin-sick world.


3 posted on 12/28/2012 6:59:08 AM PST by pollywog ("O Thou who changest not, abide with me.".......)
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To: Cronos

As a child, I actually thought that hell probably had few souls. My innocent mind thought, “People won’t do bad things and end up in hell for an eternity”. Of course, I now think that hell must be bursting at the seams. Reading a story like this.. so sad, so tragic... only confirms those beliefs.


4 posted on 12/28/2012 6:59:24 AM PST by momtothree
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To: Cronos
Why such head injuries? Doesn't seem like a normal mugging type attack at all. Why would someone hate such a good man so much to do such extensive violence on his head?

Zombies? Someone on "bath salts"? Religious difference of opinion? Islamists or other religious zealots?

RIP Mr. Greaves.

5 posted on 12/28/2012 6:59:48 AM PST by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: Cronos
Prayers up. Sad for the mess that Britain has become, that this man could not protect himself with a gun.

Out of respect for the dead and suffering, I will not offer the obvious graveside humor quip that is sitting there staring at me.

6 posted on 12/28/2012 7:03:32 AM PST by Lazamataz (LAZ'S LAW: As an argument with liberals goes on, the probability of being called racist approaches 1)
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To: Lazamataz

I don’t think he had a chance to use a gun if he had one. I think the coward came up behind him to clobber him to rob him. Just horrible.


7 posted on 12/28/2012 7:10:33 AM PST by presently no screen name
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To: Cronos

At least he wasn’t shot.

Gun control works!!!!


8 posted on 12/28/2012 7:10:58 AM PST by saleman (!!!!)
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To: Cronos

From my understanding, High Green is nice suburb of Sheffield - not a place known for violent crime or “urban problems.”


9 posted on 12/28/2012 7:12:06 AM PST by wideawake
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To: Cronos

Lovely, and on Christmas eve no less, and on his way to church. And let’s remind ourselves this is preferable and quite acceptable to liberals who constantly and fanatically insist that psychopaths be given the upper hand - that they be given the right to attack and kill others in completely and utter safety without the risk of being shot so they can then be arrested and “rehabilitated” and released back onto society like this redeemed individual.......

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/12/24/us-usa-newyork-shooting-idUSBRE8BN0HB20121224


10 posted on 12/28/2012 7:15:56 AM PST by GrandJediMasterYoda (Someday our schools we will teach the difference between "lose" and "loose")
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To: Cronos
'His wife wants justice but she doesn't want vengeance. She is not embittered but obviously she wants this person to be caught.'

"...Vengeance is mine," saith The LORD. (Heb. 10:30)

"...the vengeance of Eternal Fire." (Jude 7)

This slouching-toward-Gomorrah perpetrator will suffer the same vengeance The LORD rained on Sodom and Gomorrah for fornication and going after strange flesh --- IIRC

11 posted on 12/28/2012 7:18:19 AM PST by imardmd1 (An armed society is a polite society -- but dangerous for the fool --)
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To: Cronos

Muslim gang initiation?

Diversity is our strength, or some such rot.


12 posted on 12/28/2012 7:18:53 AM PST by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: dayglored

Read some of Theodore Dalyrimple’s books where he describes a feral underclass in Britain that lacks any sort of morals or even humanity. It’s depressing. This is what a socialist welfare state becomes.


13 posted on 12/28/2012 7:37:46 AM PST by Pining_4_TX (All those who were appointed to eternal life believed. Acts 13:48)
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To: momtothree
As a child, I actually thought that hell probably had few souls. My innocent mind thought, “People won’t do bad things and end up in hell for an eternity”. Of course, I now think that hell must be bursting at the seams. Reading a story like this.. so sad, so tragic... only confirms those beliefs.

There are only two choices, heaven or hell. By far, most will have chosen wrong.

Matthew 7:13
Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it.
14 posted on 12/28/2012 7:57:51 AM PST by crosshairs (They are only assault weapons in the hands of tyrannical governments and criminals. Ban both.)
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To: momtothree

I read your post that included a comment that Hell must be ‘bursting at the seams’ and it triggered a verse that came to my mind that said “ Hell hath enlarged is borders” (King James Version).
This insight into the characteristics of Hell is provided in Isaiah 5:14: “Therefore Sheol has enlarged its appetite and opened its mouth beyond measure, and the nobility of Jerusalem and her multitude will go down, her revelers and he who exults in her.”


15 posted on 12/28/2012 8:04:49 AM PST by patriotsblood
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To: Cronos

Hint to the policemen without guns: forget about the “van with a white man driving”


16 posted on 12/28/2012 8:07:24 AM PST by Minutemen ("It's a Religion of Peace")
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To: Cronos

Maybe they need another anti-violence law to make it illegal to ignore the existing anti-violence laws.....

/s


17 posted on 12/28/2012 8:16:01 AM PST by Iron Munro (I MISS AMERICA !)
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To: Cronos

He was a Christian.
“They” were Muslims.

That’s all. That’s IT in a nutshell.
Betcha dollars to doughnuts.


18 posted on 12/28/2012 8:31:05 AM PST by Flintlock (PARANOIA--means having all the facts.)
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To: relictele

19 posted on 12/28/2012 9:36:28 AM PST by UCANSEE2 ( If you think I'm crazy, just wait until you talk to my invisible friend.)
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To: momtothree
Ralph Martin's Will Many Be Saved? is a weighty new book that attempts to examine that question in great depth and detail. The evidence he marshalls from theologians across the centuries is that Hell is a far more real possibility than what has been taught in the 2nd part of the 20th century.
20 posted on 12/28/2012 9:45:19 AM PST by jobim (.)
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To: relictele

Nope. No Brit ever said it was or would. When you finished that strawman, perhaps you could use whats left and burn Edward Woodward.


21 posted on 12/28/2012 10:35:12 AM PST by the scotsman (i)
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To: relictele

Nope. No Brit ever said it was or would. When you finished that strawman, perhaps you could use whats left and burn Edward Woodward.


22 posted on 12/28/2012 10:35:22 AM PST by the scotsman (i)
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To: the scotsman

I’m usually not this direct or crude but that is complete and utter horsesh*t.

Read ANY of the comment sections at the Telegraph, Daily Mail or anywhere else (the Guardian if you can stand it) and there are countless posts FROM BRITS about how wonderful the British Isles are without all those icky guns.

No need for strawmen when quoting directly from Britons.


23 posted on 12/28/2012 11:26:03 AM PST by relictele
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To: relictele

People may think its still a safe country, a country that is safer than the US, but they arent blind to its violence.

You are making the error of seeing them say its a safe country means they think its a violence free utopia. Believe me, everyone of all sides, everyone in the UK KNOWS its more violent than it was 20,30, 50 years ago.

Also a lot of the ‘pro-UK’ comments are usually made in regards to a US violence story, like the recent shootings. Brits on these pages tend to post how grateful they feel that as violent as the UK seems, it also seems much less violent when compared to the US. I read the Daily mail, Telegraph etcd online. I even post on the DM site.

I think its a great and overall a safe country to live in, but I know as well that there is violence and violent people and areas.


24 posted on 12/28/2012 12:17:26 PM PST by the scotsman (i)
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To: the scotsman
People may think its still a safe country, a country that is safer than the US,

Yeah, well, they'd be wrong.

25 posted on 12/28/2012 12:28:08 PM PST by Trailerpark Badass (So?)
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To: Trailerpark Badass

I have lived in both.
And I believe the UK to be safer.


26 posted on 12/28/2012 12:49:03 PM PST by the scotsman (i)
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To: the scotsman
Violent crime worse in Britain than in US

I'm sure in England, just as in the US, it matters greatly where you are.

And the US is a very big place, with huge swaths of it that are as safe as any place on Earth.

27 posted on 12/28/2012 12:57:38 PM PST by Trailerpark Badass (So?)
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To: Trailerpark Badass

1—The reason for the UK’s high figure have been discussed here many times. Its the high number of violent offences on the statute books (28) that cause the figures to be so high. Many UK crimes of violence arent classed as such in other countries.

2—True, but then I am in Scotland. LOL.

3—Very true.


28 posted on 12/28/2012 2:30:24 PM PST by the scotsman (i)
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To: the scotsman
Fair enough.

And while we're explaining things, a significant portion of the part of violent crime that is much higher in the US, criminal homicide, is attributable to the Mexican/S American drug trade, and where that hits the streets with inner-city drug gangs.

Much of that is confined to active participants in that industry, and is relatively invisible to law-abiding citizens.

29 posted on 12/28/2012 2:53:59 PM PST by Trailerpark Badass (So?)
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To: Cronos

RIP.


30 posted on 12/28/2012 3:14:32 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: the scotsman
but then I am in Scotland.

I have a suggestion, sir: stay in Scotland. Live in your fantasy world and hope like hell that none of your UK "youts" don't beat the crap out of you. I'll live here in the dreaded USA and take a chance that I can use a firearm to stop any thugs that intend to do harm to me. Too bad about you.

31 posted on 12/28/2012 4:35:42 PM PST by OldPossum
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To: Cronos

UK is in dire need of the death penalty along with judges and juries who will apply it.


32 posted on 12/28/2012 4:54:33 PM PST by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: OldPossum

I will.

And of the youts tried to beat me in 2008 and got the wrong end of the result. BTW, I will also use my legally owned rifle and shotgun to defend myself.


33 posted on 12/28/2012 6:49:29 PM PST by the scotsman (i)
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To: exit82

Why do Americans think every crime in the UK now is done by Muslims?.

If recent beatings of church people is anything to go by, it will be a white or black youth or a nutter with a grudge against the church.


34 posted on 12/29/2012 9:42:56 AM PST by the scotsman (i)
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