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Get Rid of the Republican Establishment, Once and for All
GOP USA ^ | 12/27/2012 | Matt Towery

Posted on 12/27/2012 1:20:29 PM PST by IbJensen

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To: Longbow1969
Too bad. The brand is tainted. And the more I see people like you insisting I MUST support the GOP or lose, the more intransigent I become.

/johnny

21 posted on 12/27/2012 2:25:27 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: IbJensen

Kerry was in Vietnam and we're endorsing Romney.

22 posted on 12/27/2012 2:27:26 PM PST by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: BlackElk
I cannot tell you how liberating it was in 2012 to not vote for either major party candidate for the first time in a long adult life.

Meh, for every person who thinks they are accomplishing something by not voting for a candidate that can win, another usually realizes the folly of having done that in the past and goes back to casting a ballot that counts.

When you drop out of the system, no one cares. You impress no one, you prove nothing, you achieve zilch. The 2 major party's pursue, first and foremost, actual likely voters. The more conservatives that sit out, the less the GOP will care about their voice and the faster they will move to the new center (meaning further left). We've seen this play out elsewhere and it just allows the socialists to accelerate their ability to change the culture and the politics of this land.

23 posted on 12/27/2012 2:27:58 PM PST by Longbow1969
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To: Blackirish
When people don’t consider our country and will vote to line their pockets till it all breaks down....see California and Illinois

You are exactly correct. This is where we are now. Western civilization is selfish and dying. It's all about security from things instead of freedom to take chances and achieve. Our recent immigrants don't much care about this land (they aren't even told they should), they are simply here to pick the carcass clean and take whatever possible back home with them. The left took over our schools and taught a few generations now that we should feel guilty and ashamed of what we accomplished. The spirit that once fill this nation is flickering out. We are going the way of Europe.

Still, not voting, sitting out, wasting ballots on 3rd party's, etc, none of that does any good. We just have to fight the good fight, even if it means we go down with the ship. At least we stood up and made every logical, reasonable effort to save this country for future generations.

24 posted on 12/27/2012 2:35:30 PM PST by Longbow1969
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To: Longbow1969
You realize that hundreds of thousands of people vote 3rd party every election cycle - and they always lose

As do those, voting Republican.

To Democrats, their drive for dominance and total control of the populace and the wealth it generates is a religious calling and they pursue it with brutal force if necessary.

To Republicans, the quest is not so much for power as it is for riches which can buy the power and they have no core conviction. Try an experiment and ask any given number of Republicans what they stand for and you'll get equal number of different answers and then people wonder why the 'Pubs don't connect. Those political mobsters have no soul, they have no core and believe that election to a political office is a green light to loot the public coffers.

25 posted on 12/27/2012 2:35:31 PM PST by varon ( I'll take the Mafia over the Feds anytime)
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To: Longbow1969
People aren't buying what you are selling.

The GOP can't win unless it moves right. Move right, you might get some support. Until then, you can forget about it.

Fear doesn't sell. If I voted GOP, I would be enabling those liberals and accelerating the move left.

No thanks.

The GOP keeps losing, don't they?

/johnny

26 posted on 12/27/2012 2:36:32 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: manic4organic
We said that with Clinton. It didn't happen.

Don't be afraid.

But be ready.

27 posted on 12/27/2012 2:39:15 PM PST by Osage Orange ( Liberalism, ideas so good they have to be mandatory.)
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To: JRandomFreeper
And the more I see people like you insisting I MUST support the GOP or lose, the more intransigent I become.

Um, I don't care what you do. You're a big talker but if you don't participate in one of the two party's that can win elections, then politically you are simply irrelevant. No matter how much you scream and yell, when you don't cast a ballot that counts for something then your voice is not heard anyway. You're just hollering on message boards, but making no actual difference one way or the other.

28 posted on 12/27/2012 2:41:56 PM PST by Longbow1969
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To: Longbow1969
Seems like it's the GOP headed to becoming irrelevant.

No matter how much you scream and yell, and try to sell your fear mongering, the GOP loses. Voters and elections. That's the reality on the ground.

/johnny

29 posted on 12/27/2012 2:47:21 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper
Fear doesn't sell.

Sure it does. The Democrats use fear to great success every election cycle with their various minority and victim groups. The Democrats do an amazing job convincing blacks, Hispanics, single women, etc, that the Republican party hates them and wants to ruin their lives.

If I voted GOP, I would be enabling those liberals and accelerating the move left.

When you don't participate in a party, it ignores you. It will move left faster without conservative voices to push for a different direction.

Refusing to vote for a Republican primary winner because they aren't conservative enough is generally just as bad as mushy moderates who refuse to vote for legitimate movement conservative primary victors because they are supposedly too conservative. Both are instances of people throwing temper tantrums because they didn't get their way.

30 posted on 12/27/2012 2:51:44 PM PST by Longbow1969
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To: Longbow1969
Calling people irrelevant, accuse them of throwing temper tantrums... Great sales pitch you have going.

The GOP has certainly convinced me that they have no use for conservatives, so I'll just let them sleep in the bed they made for themselves.

You aren't making the sale. The GOP remains irrelevant since they can't put up conservative candidates and actively supress conservatives.

/johnny

31 posted on 12/27/2012 2:58:52 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: IbJensen

These establishment types intentionally left Sarah Palin and Ron Paul out of the mix and paid the price big time. There is nothing they can do to ‘fix’ the problem because they are the problem. I have had it with the GOP. Until they get a firebreathing conservative at the helm, they can kiss the party good-bye forever.


32 posted on 12/27/2012 2:59:26 PM PST by AdaGray
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To: Longbow1969
I'm done with the GOP-e....

I'm a professional and make a good living..and actually pay lot's in income taxes.

I've given money to past GOP candidates, ( Although never Dole, McCain or Romney..)...and will continue to do that when they meet my Conservative standards.

But the GOP-e can pound sand!

And go to hell!!

33 posted on 12/27/2012 3:03:26 PM PST by Osage Orange ( Liberalism, ideas so good they have to be mandatory.)
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To: Longbow1969; IbJensen

“the more conservatives give up on the GOP”
It’s crazy.
We’re a few members away from controlling the House and everyone wants to give up!

Example: most of this session Boehner went around pressuring members to support Reid’s bills.
But on the ‘fiscal cliff’ deal he’ll be pressuring members NOT to support Reid’s bill.

Conservatives are taking the Party over. The RINOs are losing.


34 posted on 12/27/2012 3:05:41 PM PST by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: AdaGray
These establishment types intentionally left Sarah Palin and Ron Paul out of the mix and paid the price big time. There is nothing they can do to ‘fix’ the problem because they are the problem. I have had it with the GOP. Until they get a firebreathing conservative at the helm, they can kiss the party good-bye forever.

There is one other thing they can do, go after and guard against voter fraud. Romney lost because of massive voter fraud and his subsequent ignorance afterwards to challenge it.

35 posted on 12/27/2012 3:07:21 PM PST by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: Longbow1969

Tell me Ross Perot was irrelevant.


36 posted on 12/27/2012 3:09:36 PM PST by Osage Orange ( Liberalism, ideas so good they have to be mandatory.)
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To: JRandomFreeper
From Red Hampshire's Union Leader website today...

U.S. Rep. Charlie Bass, R-Peterborough, took a symbolic step this week by being the first Republican member of Congress from New England to sign on to an effort that would allow the federal government to recognize same-sex marriage.

Bass was defeated by democrat Ann Kuster in November; who also supports sodomite marriage...and they wonder why conservatives stayed home.

37 posted on 12/27/2012 3:09:36 PM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: mrsmith

Your post make’s little sense.


38 posted on 12/27/2012 3:12:28 PM PST by Osage Orange ( Liberalism, ideas so good they have to be mandatory.)
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To: Osage Orange
Tell me Ross Perot was irrelevant.

Ross Perot accomplished pretty much nothing politically - other than to help Clinton get elected in 92'. So sure, 3rd party dunderheads can occasionally play spoiler.

39 posted on 12/27/2012 3:17:27 PM PST by Longbow1969
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To: mrsmith

The 17th Amendment is going to make it difficult to take control of the Senate...best done in an ‘off year’ when people aren’t being driven to the polls by a presidential race.


40 posted on 12/27/2012 3:17:27 PM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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