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UK Considers Banning Kitchen Knives
Godfather Politics ^ | December 27, 2012 | Philip Hodges

Posted on 12/27/2012 11:16:08 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

We joke about it here in the U.S. that maybe the UK should ban kitchen knives since they can be used to kill someone. It looks like the UK may have taken those jokes a little too seriously because they’ve been considering banning long, pointed kitchen knives for the past several years. Researchers from West Middlesex University Hospital found that crime in their country was on the rise, and that kitchen knives were used in as many as half of all stabbings.

At least they’re being consistent. They thought guns were dangerous, so they banned guns. Now, they’re acknowledging that knives have taken the place of guns and are dangerous and should also be banned. BBC News reported:

“The researchers said there was no reason for long pointed knives to be publicly available at all. They consulted 10 top chefs from around the UK, and found such knives have little practical value in the kitchen. None of the chefs felt such knives were essential, since the point of a short blade was just as useful when a sharp end was needed. The researchers said a short pointed knife may cause a substantial superficial wound if used in an assault – but is unlikely to penetrate to inner organs. In contrast, a pointed long blade pierces the body like ‘cutting into a ripe melon.’”

After they’ve banned long, pointy kitchen knives, are they going to ban sharp pencils? Nail files? Screwdrivers? Fists? They can keep banning all these objects, but people will always find other means of inflicting injury or death if that’s what they really want to do.

I think the U.S. is a long way away from banning kitchen knives. They’d first have to confiscate all the guns, and that’s just not going to be possible anytime soon.

I really don’t think that those in power over us want an all-out bloody war in order to disarm us. They know they have to be careful. They would much rather “conquer” us through our consent. They just want us to submit. We’re the frogs in the pot of water, and with every law that gets enacted, the heat turns up a little. We acclimate, and then they turn up the heat again, but only a little. Over time, we Americans simply forget and get used to the tyranny that we’ve grown up in and lived through. Before we know it, the water will be boiling us, and by then it will be too late for us to fight back. They want nothing more than a bunch of willing slaves who believe they are free and secure in government’s chains, which they see as the protective arms of a loving mother.

With every massacre that the media turns into an international spectacle, people’s brains will be numbed just a little more. With every opinion poll taken after each massacre, people will show their increasing willingness to just submit, turn in their guns and let the government take care of them.

One hopeful thing is for sure, though. In the midst of all these self-deceived slaves, there will always be a remnant of real freedom-lovers who refused to acclimate to tyranny.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: banglist; banknives; bullystate; guncontrol; idiots; knifecontrol; morons; nannystate; numbskulls; policestate
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1 posted on 12/27/2012 11:16:14 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

“What are you going to do if some maniac comes at you with a handful of logan berries????”


2 posted on 12/27/2012 11:18:37 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (Republicans have made themselves useless, toothless, and clueless.)
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To: Eric Blair 2084; SheLion; Gabz; Hank Kerchief; 383rr; libertarian27; traviskicks; bamahead; CSM; ...

Another take.

Nanny State PING!


4 posted on 12/27/2012 11:20:19 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Merry Christmas!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Next: pointy sticks.


5 posted on 12/27/2012 11:21:16 AM PST by La Lydia
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Next: pointy sticks.


6 posted on 12/27/2012 11:21:33 AM PST by La Lydia
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
In China, a kitchen cleaver is the weapon of choice. Not very long and pointed, is it?


7 posted on 12/27/2012 11:26:00 AM PST by PGR88
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To: ClearCase_guy

There WAS that movie...

“Logans! RUN!”


8 posted on 12/27/2012 11:27:28 AM PST by bigheadfred
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Sad news coming from a country with such a distinguished history of sword making.

9 posted on 12/27/2012 11:28:58 AM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: La Lydia

Don’t forget all of those rocks just lying there on the ground waiting to be picked up and used as weapons.


10 posted on 12/27/2012 11:29:20 AM PST by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
I found out something when I was supervising a packaging line... when you eliminate the bottleneck, i.e. the one thing that is slowing the whole line down, you know what happens? You get another bottleneck, which is the second-slowest step in the process. Eliminate that, and you get a third bottleneck, and so on. As you do this your throughput gets greater and greater, but you should never believe that you are going to eliminate the last bottleneck. That's impossible.

Banning weapons is like that. The choice of weapons is irrelevant to a person's decision to commit murder. You may eliminate the weapon, but you should never believe that you are going to eliminate the last murder.

11 posted on 12/27/2012 11:29:50 AM PST by Oberon (Big Brutha Be Watchin'.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

The BBC article cited in this link is more than seven years old. Did they ever ban knives?


12 posted on 12/27/2012 11:30:24 AM PST by GrootheWanderer
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
UK considering banning long, pointed kitchen knives for the past several years.

Good thing the UK has already trained those electric bench grinders not to grind points on those long blunt bread knives.

13 posted on 12/27/2012 11:39:23 AM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: La Lydia
When I was a kid (back in the early 60's) I read a Chinese children's story about a king who was paranoid about being assassinated. Someone tried to assassinate him with a knife, so he outlawed those. Then someone tried it with a fork, and he outlawed those too. Finally, someone tried to do him in with a spoon and he did away with those. So people had nothing to eat with, and so they invented chop sticks, the word "chop" supposedly means "good".

I doubt if there is any basis in fact to this story, or even if it is actually a story from China, but it occurs to me to be an object lesson on how those in power fear the people and will go to ridiculous lengths to take all power out of their hands.

14 posted on 12/27/2012 11:42:21 AM PST by fidelis (Zonie and USAF Cold Warrior)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
I have a very expensive collection of laminated steel Chefs Japanese knives, that they will pry from my cold dead hands.
15 posted on 12/27/2012 11:43:16 AM PST by Little Bill (A)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
After they’ve banned long, pointy kitchen knives, are they going to ban sharp pencils? Nail files? Screwdrivers? Fists? They can keep banning all these objects, but people will always find other means of inflicting injury or death if that’s what they really want to do.

Do you have a permit for that length of steel pipe?

16 posted on 12/27/2012 11:44:46 AM PST by Jeff Winston
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
I live in England, and I read somewhere recently that they are planning on banning citrus fruit for health and safety reasons. Apparently the juice could get into someone’s eyes, so they aim to make it to where only licensed people can buy citrus fruit, after they have completed a health and safety course on how to properly cut citrus fruit, and of course they will be required to wear safety goggles, and Kevlar gloves, and the correct ear protection, and steel capped boots... The UK is a hopeless boob, they try to ban everything. Dumb@$$ Brits
17 posted on 12/27/2012 11:47:39 AM PST by yank in the UK ( A liberal mocking Christianity. I asked "why don't you mock Islam?" he replied "Muslims are violent)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Kitchen Knife Ban? But you see, Constable, this is my Drawing Room Knife. So it’s all perfectly legal as you can see.


18 posted on 12/27/2012 11:51:59 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: cradle of freedom

Those “rocks” belong to the Crown. Do not touch them!


19 posted on 12/27/2012 11:54:44 AM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: ClearCase_guy

That’s easy. You shoot him, then you eat the loganberries.


20 posted on 12/27/2012 11:55:17 AM PST by ZirconEncrustedTweezers (Some cultures are destined to remain stupid and we need to quit trying to uplift them.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
I think soiled baby diapers will be next. No one should die the death of asphyxiation from a baby diaper.
21 posted on 12/27/2012 11:55:38 AM PST by jonrick46 (The opium of Communists: other people's money.)
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To: yank in the UK

Those guys from Monty Python had their homeland pegged, four decades ago. Sounds like it’s gotten much, much worse since then.


22 posted on 12/27/2012 11:56:57 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: yank in the UK
I live in England, and I read somewhere recently that they are planning on banning citrus fruit for health and safety reasons.

Common sense tells me you must be kidding. Experience tells my you're probably not.

23 posted on 12/27/2012 11:57:47 AM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

butcher chickens.. not people. (you got a beef with that 8?)

ban volcanic eruptions too..

there are no limits to man’s barbarity or some’s ignorance as well., somewhere somehow somebody is gonna stick ya in the back eventually even maybe.


24 posted on 12/27/2012 11:58:31 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Registering then, confiscating all screwdrivers not far down the road.

Two men were today found guilty of the murder of a father of two who was stabbed through the head with a screwdriver as he interrupted a car theft outside his home.

25 posted on 12/27/2012 12:06:51 PM PST by TexasCajun
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

The first murder was committed at the dawn of antiquity by Cain, a farmer. He killed his brother Abel, a shepherd. Guns did not exist and if it was pre-iron or bronze age, swords and knives were non-existent as well. So, by the context, we can infer that Cain killed Abel with a Big rock, or perhaps a flint chip, or his bare hands.

Abel was just as dead as if he were shot with an AR-15.

Humans will do what humans will do.


26 posted on 12/27/2012 12:08:03 PM PST by left that other site (Worry is the Darkroom that Develops Negatives.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
People are killed by alcohol too - that should be banned. And soon - especially wines that liberal elites like to drink. Also death by car is common - cars should be banned. And air travel - when a plane goes down - hundreds die at the same time... the essence of tragedy for some...
27 posted on 12/27/2012 12:12:00 PM PST by GOPJ (It's not possible to be a Progressive and not be a hypocrite. Freeper TigersEye.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Logan berries aren’t the problem - it’s the hands ... all hands should be banned - they ARE the weapon that holds all the rest of the weapons. If hands are amputated, there will be less violence.

But why stop there?

It’s the brain that controls the hands that control the weapons. If brains were removed they’d be no violence... Finally, we’ve got the answer liberals have been looking for...


28 posted on 12/27/2012 12:15:24 PM PST by GOPJ (It's not possible to be a Progressive and not be a hypocrite. Freeper TigersEye.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

As I posted in the earlier thread, I can’t stab anyone with my kitchen knife, but I can dismember someone with my Japanese cleaver, which I use for everything!


29 posted on 12/27/2012 12:19:25 PM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

ugh


30 posted on 12/27/2012 12:19:51 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

In our town, a woman went to the wedding of her ex-boyfriend. She grabbed the knife which had been used to cut the cake, and stabbed him in the heart. He lasted till an ambulance got there. In court, she claimed he had been abusive to her. 2005 - and is aready out on parole. Ban wedding cake knives.


31 posted on 12/27/2012 12:20:21 PM PST by healy61
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To: GOPJ

Don’t forget about reflexive violence!

Spinal cords will also have to be banned.


32 posted on 12/27/2012 12:20:29 PM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: GOPJ

Sex! Ban sex as well, it only leads to death. Every life created by sex has or soon will DIE! We must do SOMETHING.


33 posted on 12/27/2012 12:33:01 PM PST by wrench
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Forks have sharp, pointy ends and spoons are almost like a rounded handle with a stabbing end if you hold them by the business end - ergo the Brits will soon be eating with their hands.


34 posted on 12/27/2012 12:33:49 PM PST by trebb (Allies no longer trust us. Enemies no longer fear us.)
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Time to ban Lamps ! Many a man has been beaned with a lamp or two.


35 posted on 12/27/2012 12:34:27 PM PST by imemyself
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To: yank in the UK
Don't believe everything you hear in the press, here.
Much of it is pure BS, launched for effect.
How long have you been in exile from the US?
36 posted on 12/27/2012 12:34:52 PM PST by moose07 (The truth will out, one day.)
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To: GrootheWanderer; Liberty Valance

Kitchen knives are not banned, normal knives are limited to 2 or 3 inches.
Swords were banned, then in true Monty python style ,unbanned: ‘if the production process is by a genuine sword manufacturer’.
Antique blades and Swords must have their sharp edge removed.


37 posted on 12/27/2012 12:41:03 PM PST by moose07 (The truth will out, one day.)
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To: wrench
Sex! Ban sex as well

see: Malthus, Thomas


38 posted on 12/27/2012 12:51:35 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: TigersEye

“Common sense tells me you must be kidding. Experience tells my you’re probably not.”

You couldn’t make this stuff up.


39 posted on 12/27/2012 12:52:06 PM PST by yank in the UK ( A liberal mocking Christianity. I asked "why don't you mock Islam?" he replied "Muslims are violent)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Pudding all around.


40 posted on 12/27/2012 12:53:32 PM PST by RedMDer (Those that believe in gun free zones should post gun free zone signs on their property and persons.)
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To: chris37
Spinal cords will also have to be banned.

Good one - you're right - they're out....

41 posted on 12/27/2012 12:57:21 PM PST by GOPJ (It's not possible to be a Progressive and not be a hypocrite. Freeper TigersEye.)
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To: wrench

Another good one - outlawing sex will work about as well as outlawing guns... It’s a twofer alright.


42 posted on 12/27/2012 12:58:54 PM PST by GOPJ (It's not possible to be a Progressive and not be a hypocrite. Freeper TigersEye.)
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To: yank in the UK

I could live for centuries before the thought of banning citrus fruits independently entered my mind. It might then take a couple of centuries of extreme senility before I took that thought seriously.


43 posted on 12/27/2012 1:05:42 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: GOPJ

Hehe :D


44 posted on 12/27/2012 1:54:47 PM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: jonrick46

Brest-fed babies are less toxic.


45 posted on 12/27/2012 1:56:28 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Merry Christmas!)
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To: PGR88

In Africa and many places in South and Central America, it is the machete.


46 posted on 12/27/2012 2:11:32 PM PST by Little Ray (Get back to work. Your urban masters need their EBTs refilled.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
I carved prime rib on Christmas day with a knife like the one below:


47 posted on 12/27/2012 2:22:05 PM PST by Rebelbase
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Sticks, rocks, will be next.

No, I am not even slightly joking.

48 posted on 12/27/2012 2:23:39 PM PST by Lazamataz (LAZ'S LAW: As an argument with liberals goes on, the probability of being called racist approaches 1)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

This will not, of course, apply to members of the Religion of Peace. They need long knives for honor killings and beheadings. Sharia Law trumps English Common Law! Go Islam.


49 posted on 12/27/2012 2:27:13 PM PST by MasterGunner01
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To: RedMDer
This story go the ‘Rhubarb’ treatment years ago.
But it is heartening to see the responses it created here. :)
50 posted on 12/27/2012 2:47:21 PM PST by moose07 (The truth will out, one day.)
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