Yes, gay is a choice, get over it.

American Thinker ^ | 12/24/2012 | Robert Oscar Lopez

[SeekAndFind]

According to Peter Schmidt in the Chronicle of Higher Education, yet another individual working in higher education has been demolished for saying the wrong thing about homosexuality. The basis on which to define people as "anti-gay" has, however, taken a turn to the absurd (and eerie).

Unlike Angela McCaskill, who was nearly fired from Gallaudet University for signing a petition on gay marriage, Crystal Dixon of the University of Toledo was fired for writing an editorial in a local newspaper. She referred to Exodus and mentioned people who chose to leave the gay lifestyle.

For this column I will stick to the gay male angle, since I have but 1,200 words. Even if we accepted, for argument's sake (which I do not accept), that McCaskill was "anti-gay" because she signed a petition, the case against Dixon is based purely on wild assumptions about sex. To fire Dixon, one must accept that gay men cannot stop themselves from having anal sex or engaging in fellatio. Without anal sex or fellatio, it would seem that a gay couple is tough to distinguish from roommates who like to kiss each other once in a while.

These assumptions bestialize and infantilize gay men. While I have tired of penning editorials about gay controversies, the situation is dire. I feel compelled to write a column once again emphasizing a basic reality: gay sex is a choice. Nobody lacks the power to refrain from having gay sex. Get. Over. It.

Dixon said that gays had the choice to leave the lifestyle (in other words, stop engaging in anal sex and fellatio). According to her detractors, such was tantamount to being anti-gay. Her detractors are following the lead of the Southern Poverty Law Center, which lists "conversion therapy" as a hate crime.

[Darren McCarty]

It's not a disease. Maybe the inclinations aren't a choice (I don't know - I suspect it's environment) but actions are a choice.

Just as I can choose to cheat on my girlfriend with the woman I meet at a conference, these homos can choose to blank another dudes blank.

[TADSLOS]

Let me qualify my statement then. It’s a mental disease by choice. I refuse to believe that God creates perverts at birth. Something happens menntally from one’s self discovery of sex. How one proceeds from that point is a personal choice between using their body as God intended or perverting themselves and those they engage their perversion with mentally and physically- but it starts with a mental perversion of thought and desire - a self induced disease of the mind and soul manifested upon the physical body. That’s the way I see it.

[gura]

Many people will never support you here, but many will. It’s always better to love and support our fellow conservatives than to vilify them. Take care.

[uglybiker]

Andrew Dice Clay said it better.

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Yo! Either you suck d***.....

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OR YOU DON'T!!!

[SunkenCiv]

Thanks SeekAndFind.

To fire Dixon, one must accept that gay men cannot stop themselves from having anal sex or engaging in fellatio. Without anal sex or fellatio, it would seem that a gay couple is tough to distinguish from roommates who like to kiss each other once in a while. These assumptions bestialize and infantilize gay men.

[DBeers]

Sorry if you were one choice away from sucking c*#* . It wasn’t ever an option for me.

Resorting to Ad HOMO-inem in the face of facts is so 'gay'.

Obama would be proud.

[Elsie]

Genesis 13:13

Now the men of Sodom were wicked and were sinning greatly against the LORD.

Genesis 18:20-21
20. Then the LORD said, "The outcry against Sodom and Gomorrah is so great and their sin so grievous
21. that I will go down and see if what they have done is as bad as the outcry that has reached me. If not, I will know."

Genesis 19:4-7
4. Before they had gone to bed, all the men from every part of the city of Sodom--both young and old--surrounded the house.
5. They called to Lot, "Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them."
6. Lot went outside to meet them and shut the door behind him
7. and said, "No, my friends. Don't do this wicked thing.

 

Psalms 12:8      The wicked freely strut about when what is vile is honored among men.

      More?

Isaiah 3:9   The look on their faces testifies against them; they parade their sin like Sodom; they do not hide it. Woe to them! They have brought disaster upon themselves.

2 Peter 2:13b  Their idea of pleasure is to carouse in broad daylight. They are blots and blemishes, reveling in their pleasures while they feast with you.

 

 

Ezekiel 16:49-50
49. "`Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy.
50. They were haughty and did detestable things before me. Therefore I did away with them as you have seen.

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2 Peter 2

 1.  But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them--bringing swift destruction on themselves.
 2.  Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way of truth into disrepute.
 3.  In their greed these teachers will exploit you with stories they have made up. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping.
 4.  For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but sent them to hell,  putting them into gloomy dungeons  to be held for judgment;
 5.  if he did not spare the ancient world when he brought the flood on its ungodly people, but protected Noah, a preacher of righteousness, and seven others;
 6.  if he condemned the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah by burning them to ashes, and made them an example of what is going to happen to the ungodly;
 7.  and if he rescued Lot, a righteous man, who was distressed by the filthy lives of lawless men
 8.  (for that righteous man, living among them day after day, was tormented in his righteous soul by the lawless deeds he saw and heard)--
 9.  if this is so, then the Lord knows how to rescue godly men from trials and to hold the unrighteous for the day of judgment, while continuing their punishment.
 10.  This is especially true of those who follow the corrupt desire of the sinful nature  and despise authority.   Bold and arrogant, these men are not afraid to slander celestial beings;
 11.  yet even angels, although they are stronger and more powerful, do not bring slanderous accusations against such beings in the presence of the Lord.
 12.  But these men blaspheme in matters they do not understand. They are like brute beasts, creatures of instinct, born only to be caught and destroyed, and like beasts they too will perish.
 13.  They will be paid back with harm for the harm they have done. Their idea of pleasure is to carouse in broad daylight. They are blots and blemishes, reveling in their pleasures while they feast with you.

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But there IS hope!!!

1 Corinthians 6:9-11

 9. Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived:
     Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders
10. nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
11. And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.

 

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If you could NOT change, you would be in most pitiful shape...

[Elsie]

Homosexuality is a form of mental disease.

Nope; it's SIN.

But you'll play Hell finding THAT word used in today's culture.

All kinds of EVIL exists, but NEVER any SIN!

[Tax-chick]

All sexual behaviors, from the most moral to the most depraved, are under the control of the rational human will. Whatever his or her urges, the individual decides whether to act on them.

[lentulusgracchus]

I agree and have thought that for a long time. It's an undiagnosed and untreated illness. Thanks, American Psychiatric Association, for putting political correctness ahead of your patients' health.

I lost a substantial reply to you to the tendency of Internet Explorer suddenly and peremptorily to announce it's shutting down because of "errors", so I'll try to repeat more economically.

Thank you, Bill Gates, for your buggy crap. That we paid you $25 billion for.

The three APA's (Psychology, Psychiatry, and Psychotherapy) were mugged and rolled in 1972 by homosexual psychiatrists using a subverted, rolled, and mugged study from 1957 done by Evelyn Hooker at UCLA. The putsch was led by Judson Marmor and Robert Spitzer, both prominent psychiatrists. Marmor later became a president of the American Psychiatric Association.

The decision to remove homosexuality from the list of paraphilias (disordered attractions, including bestiality, pedophilia, coprophilia, frottage, and numerous other disordered and pathological behaviors) in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual published by the American Psychiatric Association was political and politically imposed.

The homosexual cabal then set up Division 44 of the American Psychological Association as a kind of SS-Ahnenerben to oversee homopsychological mythology and legend-building consistent with the movement's goal of securing an all-destroying Supreme Court win on the model of Brown vs. Board of Education and Roe vs. Wade, based on claims of essential homosexuality in which sex orientation is equated to race to create a "suspect class" as in civil-rights cases, in which the Supreme Court would basically tell the God of Genesis to go fornicate Himself, and the theists and deists and other moralists and believers to allow homsexuals to do whatever they want under penalty of law and lawsuits.

That has always been the goal -- demoralization of society as a benchmark accomplishment of the movement, and affirmative legal, social, career, and financial punishment of the observers and keepers of received public morality.

[lentulusgracchus]

Whatever his or her urges, the individual decides whether to act on them.

Teenagers and young 20's are blood-doped by their own bodies. Powerfully directive hormones cloud their judgment and impulses, and their perception of reality is dimmed by what one writer once described as "a green haze of concupiscence."

Age 30 was merciful to me, personally, as the teens and 20s began to recede gently.

Sidebar/OT: A psych study done by a California university (I think it might have been Stanford) showed that teenaged girls are powerless to resist the hormonally-directed urge to pick up an unattended baby. Every. Single. One. of them went straight to the baby and picked it up as soon as she saw it. No exceptions, zero, none.

This particular hormone recedes and disappears by age 28. Women who care for others in their 30's are on autopilot or "muscle memory"; and in their 40's they snap out of it and, it is suggested, suddenly rediscover themselves, recover their inner Gloria Steinems (or Sarah Bernhardts) and bounce their comfortable, settled-in, and utterly surprised husbands out of the house.

[TADSLOS]

Of course it’s sin, but as you allude, most people today don’t even know what sin is.

[TADSLOS]

All sexual behaviors, from the most moral to the most depraved, are under the control of the rational human will. Whatever his or her urges, the individual decides whether to act on them.

Exactly.

[Tax-chick]

Fine, people experience strong urges. That does not change the fact that they decide to act on them, and it doesn’t change the fact that they often decide to put themselves in situations that stimulate the urges.

I am extremely dubious about any studies that purport to provide scientific information about women’s hormones over a period of time. It is impossible to assemble an experimental group of reasonable size, of women whose hormonal systems are a) testably alike and b)unaltered by externally-consumed hormones, and then to continue to measure the same women over many years.

Remember the “scientific proof” that women’s fertility peaks around age 27? It was all over the MSM. There was one study, in a group of fewer than 200 women of a plain-living German evangelical sect. The “proof” that their fertility, their physical capacity to conceive, declined was that the spacing of their children increased. There was no measure of the husbands’ fertility, or of the frequency and timing of intercourse, or of the effects of breastfeeding or nutrition ... just, “The first two babies were 18 months apart, but then there was 21 months before the third and 23 months before the 4th.” This was “proof” of a generalization about all women, everywhere, in all conditions.

In summary, if you have a link to the studies behind your statements about girls and women, I’d be interested in seeing them. However, even if every contention could be proved with rock-solid evidence, human being STILL choose their behaviors.

[Elsie]

They do too!

(It’s not re-cycling!!!)

[dervish]

many homosexuals are addicts - sex addicts. The cure for addiction is abstinence.

[Darren McCarty]

“There is no in between”

[TADSLOS]

They do too!

(It’s not re-cycling!!!)

Lol. I'm an unabashed sinner then.

[WashingtonSource]

Great post!

[skeeter]

Without anal sex or fellatio, it would seem that a gay couple is tough to distinguish from roommates who like to kiss each other once in a while.

This is the point I make whenever I'm involved in these kinds of discussions. Boil it down to the ONLY thing that defines a gay person - the sex act itself - and all of a sudden all of the high sounding moralistic arguments made by the pro gay people ring real hollow.